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'The mob will come after you if you leave the left'

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posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:01 PM
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This is not surprising. I have been saying for ages now that the whole issue in a nutshell can be defined by the progressive world-view. Modern left-wing Progressivism (a misnomer if there ever was one; better called Regressivism is built on the philosophy of existential nihilism.

Existential nihilism was birth in the sick mind of Friedrich Nietzsche. Perhaps I'll open a thread further discussing my thopughts and how so-called Progressivism is rooted in this world-view/philosophy. In short, existential nihilism hods several world-defining tenets:

1. Life has no intrinsic meaning or value. No person or other being holds any significance in the big scheme.
2. In deed, there literally is no big scheme.
3. All values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated.
4. There is no absolute truth, no moral or ethical lodestar, no place, person or thing that can validate any thing, thought or act as good or bad.
5. Nihilism there believes in nothing so can hold no real loyalty to anything of significance, and has no purpose other than accumulation of power and destruction of what is.

This is what the Regressively Progressive world view and resulting actions are built on. They are like ships adrift at sea with no anchor, no fixed cardinal directions to plot to their course. They are completely and unreservedly destructive, and this destructive urge is inward as well as outward.

It is said that Nietzche ...



argued that [existential nihilism's] corrosive effects would eventually destroy all moral, religious, and metaphysical convictions and precipitate the greatest crisis in human history.


This is what we are seeing.

Yeah, I think I'll put together a thread on this topic. It won't likely gain much ground here as most folks tend to be drawn toward current news and overblow foolishness, but I'll see what I can do. Might generate some discussion.




posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:03 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

It's so bad that there was some talking head on last night who was pitching Stacy Abrams as VP, and the sales pitch was that she would be good because she would inspire me because I was a woman or something. It's like by mere virtue of our shared sex, I would want to vote for her and that was all I needed to know or care about.

It's frankly insulting and disgusting.


Agree, it is extremely disturbing to see the support behind preferencing groups of people over others based on aspects of their identity they have no control over ie; sex, sexual orientation, race and so on.

Leads to some very dark outcomes.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

The evil left does not care for the indivuidual, individual rights, individual freedoms.

They want to tell you;

What to wear
What to think
What to eat
What to drink
What to smoke
What to watch
What to read
Where to live
How to live



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:06 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

I know most of them would and will support school choice when it's explained to them and they're open to listening. I've never had a black parent tell me they thought the idea of using a voucher system to allow them to pick and choose the school they send their kids to was a bad idea once it was explained.

Most of the good parents are acutely aware of the failings in their schools coming from the institution itself and the other kids stuck in it with their own kids.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I'm honestly confused as to when left leaning politics switched to giving a # about gay people and trannies from believing governments should have a responsibility to provide social services such as healthcare and vital infrastructure to the betterment of society in general. Hence.its difference from more conservative or right wing beliefs that private entities should be responsible for such things.

Where the # do people's genders and who they like to # come into this at all?



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:42 PM
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originally posted by: Flyingclaydisk
a reply to: Lumenari

How is it any different than organized crime? It IS organized crime!

Once you're in...you're IN! And you're a marked 'person' if you ever try to get OUT!

It's no wonder so many gays and lesbians are conservatives! It's their nature, in general; more self sufficient and responsible. The left has tried to pander to the gay / lesbian community by trying to drive a wedge into the extreme right (the Christian religious right), but they don't represent conservatives. Sadly though, the left takes all comers, no matter how extreme...they are that desperate for the votes.

Interesting metrics.



People generally don't understand that about the gay community.

Most just identify who we are as the caricatures that Hollywood represents us to be.

We are by definition outsiders, so we have to be self-sufficient.

We by definition don't trust the government.

The only reason we really got together as a tribe in the last 100 years was to stop getting beaten up and we wanted the same legal, financial and tax benefits as heterosexual married couples.

We got that through the Democratic party, but in exchange we got shoved into a little box by the Democratic party and suddenly they are "representing" us.

They do NOT... they represent the fringe of what we are... the radicals in our own movement.

So we were co-opted just as badly as the black community was.

So most of us have left the LGBT movement... it no longer represents the majority of us at all.

Much like the "Progressive" movement is the face of the Democratic party, but most actual Democratic voters don't like where the party is headed at all.

I wish I could give you more stars for your post.




posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:46 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Let's end all identity politics.

Let's be ourselves, mind our own business, and stop trying to control everyone else.


I have been saying that for a long time. And the people who cant do that don't even realize how much happier even they would be. But they can't be happy unless everyone agrees with them.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:47 PM
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originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I'm honestly confused as to when left leaning politics switched to giving a # about gay people and trannies from believing governments should have a responsibility to provide social services such as healthcare and vital infrastructure to the betterment of society in general. Hence.its difference from more conservative or right wing beliefs that private entities should be responsible for such things.

Where the # do people's genders and who they like to # come into this at all?



When they stopped caring about the working class is when there ceased to be a legitimate left.

One aspect of their ideology I do believe in is that government has a responsibility to provide healthcare to its citizens, works very well here in Australia.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

It's so bad that there was some talking head on last night who was pitching Stacy Abrams as VP, and the sales pitch was that she would be good because she would inspire me because I was a woman or something. It's like by mere virtue of our shared sex, I would want to vote for her and that was all I needed to know or care about.

It's frankly insulting and disgusting.


Kinda like in 2016 when we were called "traitors to our sex" because we didn't vote for someone because she had a vagina?

Good times...

LOL



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:52 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Let's end all identity politics.

Let's be ourselves, mind our own business, and stop trying to control everyone else.



I'm all about that.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:54 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

Let's end all identity politics.

Let's be ourselves, mind our own business, and stop trying to control everyone else.



But how would people think for themselves??



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 07:55 PM
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a reply to: Lumenari

It was double bad because I had a husband. They got downright nasty with that rhetoric. Burn the white married women at the stake!



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:14 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko




posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:15 PM
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originally posted by: IAMALLYETALLIAM

originally posted by: dug88
a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

I'm honestly confused as to when left leaning politics switched to giving a # about gay people and trannies from believing governments should have a responsibility to provide social services such as healthcare and vital infrastructure to the betterment of society in general. Hence.its difference from more conservative or right wing beliefs that private entities should be responsible for such things.

Where the # do people's genders and who they like to # come into this at all?



When they stopped caring about the working class is when there ceased to be a legitimate left.

One aspect of their ideology I do believe in is that government has a responsibility to provide healthcare to its citizens, works very well here in Australia.


Yeah, I mean, the government's there, we pay taxes why shouldn't they be providing these things. Personally I probably fall somewhere around the center...or what would have been the center before politics got all #ed up. There are absolutely things that benefit all of society that everyone should pay for, healthcare being a huge one of these. Workers and the lower class should be helped, because it benefits the rest of society. People that would otherwise be #ed get a chance to contribute and live, yeah there's people that abuse the system, but there's always people that abuse anything anywhere so meh....and it's not like billionaires aren't out abusing the system for more money than those people could get in a lifetime every day. Which I feel far more unhappy about myself.

Meanwhile, i believe people should have the freedom to prosper and live as they choose as long as it doesn't infringe on other people's freedoms and as far as business goes, industries that don't fall under that whole 'making society possible and reasonable' category, should be free to compete and innovate.

There's no reason for this not to be, other than a whole lot of extreme greed on both 'sides' and powerful people that divide the population against eachother and use them to gain control.

I guarantee, none of the politicians that parrot identity politic bull#, the right politicians that spew nonsense, actually give two #s about anything they push the masses to believe, the only thing any of them care about is gaining more money and power at the expense of everything else.

Every dumbass #ing issue that gets people riled up and fighting with eachother just exists to make some other ultra rich mother#er some more money.
edit on 21/5/2020 by dug88 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:22 PM
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a reply to: dug88

Seems we've got a lot of points we agree on mate.

I'm probably something like centre/centre-right before anybody to the right of Stalin was considered a Nazi.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:23 PM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Imagine being an Anarchist, where everyone automatically assumes you're all about free money for everyone, a Che goon, or down for throwing bricks through windows and setting cars on fire.

Then, the majority of "Anarchists" think you're a sellout, because you still support capitalism, and the right to own private/personal property among other things.

Most people haven't got the slightest idea about the various forms Anarchism has taken throughout history. They only think that Anarchists are all the same as the crazy socialist loons, and all they care about is starting riots and burning things down.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:35 PM
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originally posted by: AutomateThis1
a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Imagine being an Anarchist, where everyone automatically assumes you're all about free money for everyone, a Che goon, or down for throwing bricks through windows and setting cars on fire.

Then, the majority of "Anarchists" think you're a sellout, because you still support capitalism, and the right to own private/personal property among other things.

Most people haven't got the slightest idea about the various forms Anarchism has taken throughout history. They only think that Anarchists are all the same as the crazy socialist loons, and all they care about is starting riots and burning things down.


Which if you think about it is both funny and sad, considering an Anarchist form of government has worked more than once in history.

Hail the Frisians, for instance... a state of anarchy that lasted almost 800 years.


Anarchy is the state of a society being freely constituted without authorities or a governing body. It may also refer to a society or group of people that totally rejects a set hierarchy.


Our own founding fathers tossed the idea about and decided that a Republic would provide a balance between no government and a severely constrained form of government decided on by the people...

Franklin knew what we would become.




posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:37 PM
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a reply to: IAMALLYETALLIAM

So weird. No job or group I've ever been part of has ever given a damn what others' political leanings are.

Among friends its a bit different, as we're pretty much all of the same mind. The general thinkig is:

Democratic politicians are scumbags, Republican politicians are scumbags, fervent Dem and Rep non-politicians are generally idiots, sometimes Republicans are worse than Democrats (i.e. Bush years), sometimes Democrats are worse than Republicans (i.e. present day) and, last component - there are exceptions to every rule.



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:46 PM
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When I went back and visited my Sister and her family and my Brother before things popped off and every freaked out, I was hanging with my B-I-L one day and he asked where I wanted to grab some food...well, being from the middle of nowhere where we have a pizza hut and a subway..I was hankering for a nice Chick Fil A sammich BUT NOOOOOOOOO, OMG chikfila this and chickfila that and omg omg omg WE DONT GIVE CHICKFILA OUR BUSINESS(!!!!). So, I didnt get my chickfila sammich and was deeply disappointed.

Ruined the whole trip really.

Man, all I wanted was a nice, tender, juicy chikfila sammich.

(so what im sayin is, just for one day I'd like to get a damn chicken sammich without dealing with someones friggin politics)



posted on May, 21 2020 @ 08:50 PM
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The problem is not political beliefs but political identity.

When your politics become an integral part of your sense of who you are, then you will fight all comers to defend those beliefs.

When I was a kid forty years ago ... for the most part you really didn't discuss three subjects in polite society: politics, religion and sex.

There was a reason for all three I think.

I didn't see this until the last few years, but identity politics really is the greatest challenge we face in the US. IMO



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