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New Zealand Gun-Crime Rates Soar Following Gun-Bans

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posted on May, 20 2020 @ 06:18 AM
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a reply to: Advantage

You are supposed to call the wild boar police, shelter in place and wait until someone with a gun comes to save you when they feel like getting there and dealing with your emergency. But keep in mind it is much safer if you can inform them that the boar has gotten bored and walked away...




posted on May, 20 2020 @ 08:28 AM
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a reply to: chr0naut




The US totals are a clear indictment of American gun culture, showing that many are failing to use guns responsibly and identifies that many Americans place a low value on human lives.


What a load of horse snip.



The Small Arms Survey stated that U.S. civilians alone account for 393 million (about 46 percent) of the worldwide total of civilian held firearms.[2] This amounts to "120.5 firearms for every 100 residents."[2]


en.wikipedia.org...

99.9999999997(whatever) are using them RESPONSIBLY.

393 million firearms.


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posted on May, 20 2020 @ 08:43 AM
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I really do not like people that LIE.



KNives are used more than rifles(AR) and shotguns combined.

ucr.fbi.gov...
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posted on May, 20 2020 @ 08:55 AM
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How many guns do you own Chr0n?



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:20 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
I really do not like people that LIE.



KNives are used more than rifles(AR) and shotguns combined.

ucr.fbi.gov...


And total firearms is 6x that of knives...



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:26 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

Are you bath at math ?

Even if you add every single 'thing' it still doesn't even come close to 393 million firearms.

Or 99.99997% of the population.

For an action that's ALREADY ILLEGAL.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:28 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ScepticScot

Are you bath at math ?

Even if you add every single 'thing' it still doesn't even come close to 393 million firearms.

Or 99.99997% of the population.

For an action that's ALREADY ILLEGAL.


Someone seems to be.

Your own post I replied to shows firearms are used on more than 6 x as many homicides as knives.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:29 AM
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a reply to: Lysergic

He must own all of them, since he is so sure of gun control. One cannot control that which one does not possess. I can't control the idiot driving 80 mph through town; I am not in possession of the car. He is.

Let's call it what it is: gun regulation. Gun control is being able to hit one's target... a difficult task when one does not own a big, scary gun in the first place. If we had more gun control, there would be less accidental shootings.

I fully support gun control. I think ammunition for target practice purposes should be free, in the interests of enhancing gun control.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:31 AM
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a reply to: ScepticScot

No it doesn't.

The majority of firearms 392 some odd million firearms aren't used to kill anyone.
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posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:33 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: Lysergic
I think ammunition for target practice purposes should be free, in the interests of enhancing gun control.

TheRedneck


Hear, Hear! My 9mm is up to almost 1.00/rnd for decent high grain PP ammo, and you gotta practice with what you play with. I like sticking to the same ammo I am gonna carry, so I know how the gun reacts to that round and grain level. That is starting to get pricey!



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:34 AM
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I'm pretty effing sure that 392 million is GREATER than 2018 for example of 14,000 used to kill someone.

But I know gun nazis suck at math.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:35 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: ScepticScot

No it doesn't.

The majority of fireams 392 some odd million firearms aren't used to kill anyone.


Yes it does. It is in your post.

If you used a source to support your point knives are used to kill more people than shotguns and Rifles.

Same source shows firearms kill more people than knives.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:36 AM
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originally posted by: neo96
I'm pretty effing sure that 392 million is GREATER than 2018 for example of 14,000 used to kill someone.

But I know gun nazis suck at math.


How many knives are in circulation...



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:38 AM
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Don't know.

Don't care.

The majority of in this so call gun culture don't hurt anyone.

Besides.

There's a GOD DAMN LAW that says people can't do that.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:45 AM
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But that law doesn't work so we have to pass another law.

Reminds me of a truck stop I once fueled up at in Arkansas. The parking lot exited to a side street in a strip mall. At the end of the exit road there was a stop sign. At the entrance to the exit road there was a sign: "Please stop at stop sign." The sign wasn't working so they put up another sign.

That reminds me of something I once heard... trying to remember... something about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results... oh, well, I guess it wasn't important.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:46 AM
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But that law doesn't work so we have to pass another law.


Government is us, and they're doing things right.

New Zealand has a law like that.

Pretty much every civilized country does.

So they punish people for doing no wrong.

They institutionalize discrimination.
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posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:49 AM
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a reply to: KnoxMSP

Kudos to you for practicing your gun control!


I wish everyone was so responsible.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 09:51 AM
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a reply to: neo96

OK, you just confused me. Maybe it's time we started practicing speech control.

TheRedneck



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Breakthestreak

originally posted by: AutomateThis1
a reply to: 727Sky

Let's wait and see what Chronaut has to say about this.


He’ll turn it into an attack on Americans?

Oops, too late.


Not Americans, just the gun nuts.


The "gun nuts" here are the ones keeping our government from taking over every aspect of our lives and defending ourselves from criminals. We'll keep ours, thank you very much.



posted on May, 20 2020 @ 10:40 AM
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Oh Lordie. Another misuse of statistics. Gun crime has risen in NZ because people are arrested in possession of illegal weapons, not because they are out and about shooting at their neighbours. The homicide rate in NZ is still insignificant in comparison to US, which remains high.

Trying to justify the US gun culture, alongside the pile of dead bodies and misery caused because of it, is a tired and pointless thing to do. Some of you Americans (not all, because many Americans abhor guns and the associated violence) want your guns, so that's your culture. Most other developed nations don't want assault weapons in circulation and don't want to have to live in daily fear, including "concealed carry" just in case.

I come from a "disarmed" nation - the UK - where there are 2 million licensed guns. There is low gun violence and no gun culture, with the exception of wannabe gangstas who use pretend guns. Very few people are ever shot by the police, who are themselves un-armed , and very few people shoot others. I am quite happy with that. Different countries and different cultures. NZ did the right thing, for the right reasons.



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