The Treasury Department Spied on Flynn per Whistleblower

originally posted by: Sookiechacha

Your post has not changed my opinion.

Of course it will not change... Not apart of your nasrrative is it...

The Treasury has no authority over DoD, audit of the intelligence agencies isn't enough. Audit the entire federal government and then some. Every single career politician should be undergoing the same proctology exam the general and judge had. Plus a further exam from additional parties.

Just do to them, exactly what they do to others.

And see how well they hold up then...

Just saying.

Equal rights or not?

a reply to: ADVISOR
The 4th ammendment violations committed by the obama administration are despicable.
The man is a stain on our nations history.

originally posted by: xuenchen
Ohhh Well


On 1/13/17 the Obama administration gave a press conference, saying not only would they HELP the transition team reach out to foreign officials should they ask, but that they saw no problem with Flynn speaking to any foreign official- including Kislyak

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Well now
No problem but lets spy on him

a reply to: shooterbrody

When was the Treasury department "spying" on Flynn?

And what does it have to do with Flynn lying about talking to Kislyak before Trump was inaugurated?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: shooterbrody

When was the Treasury department "spying" on Flynn?

And what does it have to do with Flynn lying about talking to Kislyak before Trump was inaugurated?

Read the report
Since 2015

Did flynn lie? The agents who interviewed him thought he was truthful.

a reply to: shooterbrody

Read the report
Since 2015

You seem to have missed the point, so never mind.

a reply to: Phage
Read the report
Or troll elsewhere

originally posted by: shooterbrody

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: xuenchen

And?

Has Flynn been charged with talking to the Russian Ambassador, or was he charged (and did he confess), to lying to various officials about those meetings?

So you support the surveillance state perjury trap?
Interesting

The scandal-plagued Obama Administration used illegal spying as a weaponized tool of control and Punishment.

In 2014 the administration was forced to apologize to the US Senate for spying on certain senators.

But that did not stop the illegal spying from continuing to occur.

This afternoon, President Trump informed Republican Senators that his three oldest children were spied upon by the Obama-Biden Administration.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

a reply to: carewemust
Pretty nasty going after someones family.
Not suprising from black nixon.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Ergo, the complaint was made to the Trump Adminsitration's IG for Treasury ... and nothing was done with it.

This is not complicated.

Yeah, it really isn't. Just because Trump took the oath doesn't automatically make every existing employee of the federal government 'his' appointee. He inherited a whole lot of deep state scum that are only loyal to the globalist criminal enterprise known generically as the push for the NWO.

I still don't understand why he didn't fire all of the IGs in all departments. He should have.

a reply to: tanstaafl

Perhaps he was busy firing the people he just hired, you know, like General Flynn.

Lying to the VP ... no bueno.

President Trump said on Saturday that he had fired Michael T. Flynn, his first national security adviser, because he lied not just to the vice president but also to the F.B.I.

NYT

This still hasn't gained any traction outside the Tennesee/Ohio Star ... wonder why?

Even Breitbart and OAN haven't picked it up.

Makes you wonder.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: tanstaafl
Lying to the VP ... no bueno.

Flynn didn't lie. He fell on his sword for his son in an extorted illegal plea deal.

This is now in the open, and is beyond contestation.

Unless, of course, you suffer from TDS.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Are these the same reasons they were treating some groups differently than others? Like those reasons?

And it wasn't just Flynn they were watching.

Sure only two names are listed here: Manafort and Flynn, but the complaint says there were others being treated the same way.

Only two names are listed in the whistleblower’s official paperwork, so the others must remain sealed, she said. The second name is Paul J. Manafort Jr., the one-time chairman of Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

The other names include: Members of Congress, the most senior staffers on the 2016 Trump campaign and members of Trump’s family, she said.

“Another thing they would do is take targeted names from a certain database – I cannot name, but you can guess – and they were going over to an unclassified database and they were running those names in the unclassified database,” she said.

This ruse was to get around using classified resources to surveil Americans, she said. Once the Treasury personnel had enough information about someone they were targeting from the black box, they would go to the white box for faster and more informed search.

It was routine for these searches that had no criminal nor national security predicate, merely a political predicate, she said.

So was this now evidence of a reason like a "vast right-wing conspiracy" that the Obama admin was seeking to protect us all from?

a reply to: Gryphon66

And John Edward's affair didn't gain any traction outside the National Enquirer for a while either. I'm sure that made you wonder too.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Gryphon66

And John Edward's affair didn't gain any traction outside the National Enquirer for a while either. I'm sure that made you wonder too.

Awww ... showing our age there Kets. Not to mention, starting out with a false equivalency.

Given that the right-wing blogsphere telegraphs such tripe automatically to dozens of "web news sources" like the Tennessee/Ohio Star every day, and that it's not 1997 and we're not on dial-up internet anymore?

It's telling that no one else, not even the usual echo chamber, has picked this up.

I know that's not going to slow any of the gish galloping underway here ... but it is notable.

Best.

a reply to: ketsuko

Who were "they" treating diffently? Any specifics, or just a vague phantom menace?

Manafort and Flynn were dirty, had been dirty, are still dirty. Denying that is ridiculous at this point.

And you try to back up the claims of The Ohio Star by quoting The Tennessee Star? Don't you realize it's the same article and the same author?

Waste of my time. Post something that's not riddled with sophomoric fallacies and I'll respond.

Bear in mind. Admiral Mike Rogers stopped ANYONE from using 702(17) "about query" search options and BLOCKED all fbi contractor access yo the database on APRIL, 18, 2016.

Later FISA Presiding judge Rosemary Collyer would render a 99 page FISC opinion. In that opinion the review of NOVEMBER 1, 2015 to MAY 1, 2016 showed 85% of the queries above were UNLAWFUL.

But hey, keep defending Black Nixon.
Keep advocating for trampling of the 4th ammendment.

The FISC should be terminated immediately.

The Government has no right to spy on Americans.

The problem is that too many folks want "their side" to be able to use the unconstituional system.

For example the Trump regime has had far more unmasking requests and FISA applications than Obama ...

Data obtained by Fox News shows that thousands of unmasking requests have been fulfilled every year across both the Obama and Trump administrations, reflecting the often routine nature of these requests in intelligence work. The practice is regarded as an important national security tool, a view reflected by these numbers.

The Office of the Director of National Intelligence reported that in 2019, the Trump administration had 10,012 unmasking requests fulfilled; 16,721 requests fulfilled in 2018, and 9,529 requests fulfilled in 2017.

During 2016, the last year of the Obama administration, there were 9,217 unmasking requests fulfilled.

Fox News

Let's get rid of the FISA Court. Let's get rid of illegal surviellence.