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posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:16 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

THIS!

This is a perfect example of why the Socialist/Nanny-State ideology will always fail!

A beautiful example!




posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: RoScoLaz5
i always take the workers' side.


Everyone says that until they have employees.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Bluntone22

A small taste of why Yang's plan would never work... These lazy bums have no idea that this money has to be paid back..


Unemployment insurance is something you and your employer pay into. It isn't something that needs to be paid back. When it runs out, "that's all folks".

However, you need to work in order to accumulate credit to receive more if needed.

This extra $600 is actually a form of UBI, while it lasts anyway. That money is going to have to be paid back by taxpayers or whomever at this point.

Eventually we're all going to figuratively eat each other alive. Possibly literally but I hope not.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: Bluntone22

I disagree. I think it's lazy if you don't want to earn your money. We got a stimulus check. Live within your means and work your way up like people are supposed to do. Not "you" as in Bluntone, but "you" in general.

I think the idea sounds good, too, and my wife would make more getting $600 on top of an unemployment check but she has too much pride to sit on her ass and collect a check that she knows she'll have to pay back eventually.



I agree that many are lazy..
But...
I have a hard time hammering on a single mom spending time with her kids instead of spending money on a babysitter while working a crap job.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:19 AM
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originally posted by: mysterioustranger
There are a lot of people making a few hundred a week working...some are pissed their bosses are opening back up.

I dont blame them...ride that wave until its gone....then go back to $1-2-3 even $400 per week working ..why not



Because you're not thinking ahead if you think it's a good idea to ride the wave until it's over. You make yourself a liability, or as we called them in the oilfield, a slow leak. If you're in a job that you don't like, why aren't you actively looking for another one that you will like or that pays more? When all of this dust settles and people start getting hired again, those slow leaks will be the last to get hired and first to get fired if they stick with that same mentality and refuse to learn from their mistakes.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:22 AM
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Cut off the funny money. Bet they will all be delighted to return when they realize they can't pay their phone and internet bill.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:43 AM
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a reply to: Xcalibur254

At least you're thinking ahead, I'll give you props for that. Because chances are, it won't be there for you.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:46 AM
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a reply to: EternalShadow

Even so, in my opinion, getting an extra $100 a week for 5 or 6 weeks isn't worth losing my job over. Especially if I have time invested in a company and am a step closer to a promotion.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:49 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

It's a two-way street, I understand that. My post is aimed at the people who are taking advantage of this unemployment dilemma. We have one here who filed for unemployment because she can't find a sitter for her 12 year old child. Turns out, she doesn't even have custody of this child and the child lives out of state with the dad. This is the kind of crap the country is dealing with and the reason unemployment numbers skyrocketed.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: Stupidsecrets
Cut off the funny money. Bet they will all be delighted to return when they realize they can't pay their phone and internet bill.


A lot of them won't have a job to return to. How unfortunate *sad face*

I do feel for those who really are taking off for necessary reasons. On the surface, they get a bad rep from the lazy buttstains draining the honey pot.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:54 AM
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In my country we do not have bailout or funny money for corona... but a lot of companies working part-time now. A lot of people called in sick in early March and April, go a two week stay@home recipe, without even having the need to go see the doctor in personal. A call was enough! It was even on the radio, they did this for two or three weeks, where everyone that called and answered the right answers at their doctors office, got a free ride (paid through their health insurance).


Lost my job in February and for a while it was not clear if I can apply for a new one soon. I did apply anyways and it took until this week to get a new one. I am now a bouncer in front of the local supermarket! The pay is excellent for standing around doing nothing. I finished my third day and all I do is show presence and the shoppers are reminded about the mandatory mask rule. Did not have to take out anyone with a chop to the neck until yet. Making jokes...

A lot of headache from the mask, standing in the sun but it is better than sitting on my hands. I dislike the authority figure I represent but then at the end of the day I need to pay bills.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:58 AM
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originally posted by: LSU2018
a reply to: klimitzgus

This is one of the reasons the unemployment numbers are so high. The other is due to people quitting and then filing for unemployment. In Louisiana we can let the unemployment office know that the claims are false and they'll get nothing. So they quit to get unemployment, then end up with jackshart.


Same in all states. That by itself negates what you wrote about it explaining why the numbers are so high. The numbers are so high because a huge amount of people are out of work. The idea was to allow people to stay out of work so we can move past this, so i personally don't think anyone should be kicked off unemployment, even if they have the opportunity to go out and catch the virus from working again.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

I am wondering what is going to happen next year at income tax time. Maybe the additional $600 per week payments that come from federal money could be tax free (still don't know that for a fact) but I imagine that everyone will get 1099-Rs for their state unemployment benefits and will owe taxes on at least that amount. They will be wishing they had gone back to work when instead of receiving a tax refund they owe the tax man a large amount of money and the IRS starts doing what they do!



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:04 AM
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On the other side of that coin...
It just doesnt promote that much of a feeling of security when you come out with social distancing rules that you soon discard because they arent really workable, neglect to provide any kind of ppe, bring on a bunch of temps to jam into your company Van's for a two hour ride to the worksite and then when one of your temps end up getting sent home because he gets sick on the worksite, you hire security guards to keep your employees from entering your office building when they want to pick up more timecards...
Just saying...



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:07 AM
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a reply to: sligtlyskeptical

Thanks for your opinion, but I negated nothing of my own words. Unemployment is so high because so many people are (A) quitting so they can get a hundred or two extra for a few weeks, and/or (B) lying about being afraid of getting sick so they can file for unemployment.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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a reply to: ketsuko

Like Wall Street / Bank corruption? Or like giant corporations who rode the economic boom until the first week of Covid19 and then demanded government bailouts?

Burn, Hollywood, burn.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

The money has to be pulled out of the economy somehow.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:14 AM
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a reply to: Bluntone22

Four folks? Out of how many?

Are these temporary workers that you have a relationship long term? How did you get in touch with them?

At any rate, don't worry too much about the alleged "freeloaders" getting a few more dollars a week for a while. That will ultimately be good for your local economy; the program will end, and those who refuse work long-term will be cut off.

If you want to look at dollars wasted, look at the milliions of dollars in handouts to the corporations. Big time pork.
edit on 19-5-2020 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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Everyone wanted businesses closed to "flatten the curve".

Now the goal posts have been moved to, "Not getting the virus" and will eventually move to, "Wait until a vaccine".

Open everything up.

Now.

If you're afraid? Then stay home.

Everyone else can get back to their lives.

This is utter bullcrap.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 11:15 AM
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a reply to: GeauxHomeYoureDrunk

Yep. If you'll also notice, insurance, mortgage, utility bills, auto loans, etc. are all offering "relief" during the coronavirus which allows you to forgo payments for up to 3 months (that could have increased since I last saw it). But the fine print will also tell you that interest will continue to accrue and will be due on the date of your next payment. Had you continued to work, this wouldn't be an issue because you would have been able to keep making monthly payments. Now you'll be double paying every single bill just to stay current, or houses will be repo'd, cars will be repo'd, utilities will be shut off, insurance canceled, etc.

Anyone who has ever been a month behind on a bill knows how long it can take to finally catch that bill up. Imagine every bill being late.

But hey, at least they had money to blow on nonessentials for a few months.



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