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Communicable Pneumonia has Killed More Americans than Covid-19 - But No Pneumonia Hysteria.

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posted on May, 19 2020 @ 05:10 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

I can read the small print at the bottom of the table. Can you?





posted on May, 19 2020 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: Phage

I just asked a very simple question that does coincided when we start seeing a reduction in flu cases. Is that false.

And I noticed you dodged:Can you show a change in infection rates in concert with the stoppage of large sporting events in the USA and Europe for example?

We know historically flu season slows after February, and declines through April and May. Is that false.

Why would Covid 19 be different.

But show supporting evidence where the stopping of large events like sports games, concerts, church had a statistical change in rate of infections?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 06:01 AM
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My goodness, what an interesting chart!

What's the difference between deaths from COVID and deaths from Pneumonia?

That's an interesting question isn't it?

Wow ... so on 2/22/20, COVID deaths were 2 and PNEU deaths were 99. JESUS. Who cares about COVID, amirite?

And then a week later on 2/29 ... COVID 7, Pneumonia 100 ...

and a week later on 3/7 COVID 32, Pneumonia 99

on 3/14, COVID 51, Pneumonia 98

3/21, COVID 517, Pneumonia 99 ... wait ... WHAT THE ACTUAL FFFF????

3/28 COVID 2900, Pneumonia 107,
4/4 COVID 8921, Pneumonia 121,
4/11 COVID 14,361, Pneumonia 131 ...

etc.

Well, it looks like this COVID thing spread at an exponential rate while Pnuemonia stayed basically flat (or at least linear).

I guess that must be the difference, huh.

Wow.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 06:09 AM
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a reply to: Phage

I do not think we did social distancing the correct way..

Cause i am pretty sure i pretty much got to basically have sex with hundreds of people in the store
when the TP crisis peaked.

Stuff happened.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 06:21 AM
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a reply to: solve

So that's where all the TP went?

Gives cleanup on aisle 7 a whole new meaning, dont it.




posted on May, 19 2020 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

You


Well, it looks like this COVID thing spread at an exponential rate while Pnuemonia stayed basically flat (or at least linear).


Then social distancing had no effect?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:04 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Gryphon66

You


Well, it looks like this COVID thing spread at an exponential rate while Pnuemonia stayed basically flat (or at least linear).


Then social distancing had no effect?


Why would you come to that conclusion?

Also, that’s not the question put forth by the OP, nor the question I answered.

A tiny bit of logic, however, might answer your question ... the COVID virus spread at an astonishing rate, even with “social distancing” in place.

Now, bear with me, as I know you like things to be simple ... if the transmission rate was that extreme WITH social distancing, what would it have been WITHOUT it?

Feel free to make that argument from the data.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:06 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Is the virus spreading at a exponential rate or not?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:07 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Gryphon66

Is the virus spreading at a exponential rate or not?


You have access to the same data I have.

Do you need me to do the math for you?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:13 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

I asked a simple question
Is the virus spreading at a exponential rate or not?

So, social distancing don’t flatten the cure two to three weeks after lockdowns were in place.

But we do see the slowing of infection rates that is expected at the end of the cold and flu season from warmer weather. Is that false.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:14 AM
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originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: carewemust
"And Covid-19 deaths per week are declining...not increasing."

Everywhere?

Huh. I wonder if social distancing has anything to do with that.

No way to prove it either way, but I say no.

In fact, while the death rate spike may have been higher, it would have been much shorter lived had we just let the thing run its course and achieved natural (the only real kind of) herd immunity quickly, and without any economic collapse that will result in even more deaths than we would have had without a shut down.

But again, there is no way to actually prove this either way, so we must resort to logic and reason - something that you and other TDS sufferers are obviously sorely lacking.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:15 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

You’ve asked several questions.

I’ve given you several answers.

Make your own conclusions.

ETA: The question presented, and I’m being as generous as I can be here, is whether COVID and Pneumonia are the same, and if they are, why would the extreme measures we’ve taken in the last few months be necessary.

The fact is COVID is tremendously more virulent than Pneumonia. I showed that with a simple example from the data.

I used the word exponential to describe the COVID rate and linear to describe the Pneumonia rate. That seems to be a sticking point for you.

Aside from that, believe what you want.
edit on 19-5-2020 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: Gryphon66

Quote where you answered

Is the virus spreading at a exponential rate or not?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:18 AM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
A tiny bit of logic, however, might answer your question ... the COVID virus spread at an astonishing rate, even with “social distancing” in place.

Now, bear with me, as I know you like things to be simple ... if the transmission rate was that extreme WITH social distancing, what would it have been WITHOUT it?

Much faster.

What your logic is ignoring is to pursue that result to its conclusion...

We would also achieve natural (the only real kind of) herd immunity much more quickly, and the virus just dies out almost overnight all on its own.

But no, people like my daughter - and apparently yourself - who are terrified of a little pain scream bloody murder as I start to pull the band aid off, and want to do it excruciatingly slowly. Me? I just yank the damn thing off and be done with it. She screams for a second, and its over.

If I do it her (your) way, she screams for the entire 10 or 20 seconds it takes to pull it off slowly.
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posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

Dude. I outlined the data in the table.

Pursue your ridiculous agendas on your own time, or quote something I said if you want me to clarify it for you.

If you’re nice, I might. Doubtful, as your posts generally bore me to tears.
edit on 19-5-2020 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:23 AM
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originally posted by: neutronflux
a reply to: Gryphon66

Quote where you answered

Is the virus spreading at a exponential rate or not?


Nah, read the thread. Do your own math. Draw your own conclusions.

I can’t make it any simpler for you, nor am I inclined to.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:37 AM
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What does that have with the original question

a reply to: Gryphon66

You


Well, it looks like this COVID thing spread at an exponential rate while Pnuemonia stayed basically flat (or at least linear).


Then social distancing had no effect?

You specifically stated “ COVID thing spread at an exponential rate“.

So your statement wasn’t true?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:39 AM
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a reply to: neutronflux

Can you compare the rates of the two diseases? If you can, you will understand my comment.

If not ... perhaps you should move on. I haven’t made any comments about “social distancing” except in trying to help you.

The thread regards the differences between two diseases; I addressed that.



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 07:48 AM
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You


Can you compare the rates of the two diseases? If you can, you will understand my comment.


The below is not the comparison of two different diseases

a reply to: Gryphon66

What does that have with the original question

a reply to: Gryphon66

You


Well, it looks like this COVID thing spread at an exponential rate while Pnuemonia stayed basically flat (or at least linear).


Then social distancing had no effect?

You specifically stated “ COVID thing spread at an exponential rate“.

So your statement wasn’t true?

Are you referring to the slowing of the cold and flu season?

Which includes at least three strains of influenza? And over 200 strains of viruses that cause the common cold?

I would say yes, unless you can prove there would be no expected slowing of the spreading of Covid19 with warmer weather and the end of the flu and cold season?



posted on May, 19 2020 @ 08:00 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

We have a vaccine. 2 in fact. I get them



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