US would struggle to defend Taiwan, and lose war to China simulations show

originally posted by: dantanna
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im chinese (...)

im an american (...)

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originally posted by: UltimaRatio1

originally posted by: dantanna
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im chinese (...)

im an american (...)

right...

Sorry, but are you saying you cannot be chinese, and American?

China’s long term goals. Domination.

USA short term goals. Math is raciest. Use only gender neutral pronouns. Senator Feinstein retires the Chinese spy that worked for her for twenty years.

Where’s the Investigation into Senator Feinstein’s Chinese Spy?

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In 2013, when Feinstein led the Senate Intelligence Committee, FBI officials politely approached her to inform her that her staffer had been covertly sharing information with the San Francisco Chinese consulate – which Feinstein helped open when she was mayor – for roughly a decade. Feinstein was briefed. She apparently allowed the man to retire. No charges of espionage or acting as an unregistered foreign agent were ever brought against him. He wasn’t placed in solitary confinement or threatened with prosecution unless he cooperated with special investigators. Presumably, American taxpayers were required to pay for the Chinese spy’s retirement (for which the Chinese government was undoubtedly grateful).

While China cleaned house of US spies.

The CIA falsely believed it was 'invincible' in China — here's how its spies were reportedly discovered and killed in one of the biggest blows to the agenc

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You tell me who is in it to win it. The USA has a bad habit of ignoring when somebody is at war with them.

a reply to: Jay-morris

Yes.

"Chinese" and "american" are nationalities.

MAD has worked since 1945, give/sell Taiwan 6 nuclear subs with nukes, China then is forced to consider the total annihilation of their country if they ever attack, they can rule a glass rock from a glass rock if they want it that bad and are stupid.

originally posted by: dantanna
is taiwan an american state?
im chinese, my dad grew up in taiwan.

im an american, i could care less. its not america's job to police the world.

Taiwan is a U.S. ally. Not only that, but if China takes over Taiwan they would gain an immense amount of power over that region. Which makes it possible for them to assert more military power in other parts off the world. More power than they have now. Not only that but the policy of CCP is that "war with the U.S. is inevitable." Unfortunately Presidents like Bill Clinton and Obama did more harm to the U.S. and helped China become what it is now, meanwhile they implemented cuts in funding for our military and even allowed our military to become less powerful.

I will write this again, "war with China is inevitable because they want to wage a war with the U.S. and to completely and forever stop the U.S. from ever being a threat to the ambitions of the CCP."

I am not rooting for war against anyone, but that is a fact. The CCP has always been increasing their military resources, and increasing the funding of their military with the ultimate goal of waging a war with the U.S. Even their civilian/merchant ships are made to be easily converted/retrofitted into military ships. I am not talking about them using their civilian ships to just transport military equipment.

By Aiswarya Lakshmi June 23, 2015
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The Communist Party newspaper People’s Daily, citing a notice by the China Classification Society, reported Beijing has approved a number of technical guidelines to be adopted by commercial and civilian shipbuilders that will ensure vessels will be able to transform for use by the military in the event of an emergency.

The new “Technical Standards for New Civilian Ships to Implement National Defense Requirements” will apply to five types of vessels: container, roll-on/roll-off, multipurpose, bulk carrier and break bulk.
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China to Retrofit 172,000 Civilian Ships for Military Use

New rules mean ships can be used by military

China Prepares Its 172,000 Civilian Ships for War

a reply to: dantanna

BTW, if the U.S., or any other country had the same mind set as you have we would never have been involved in WWI and WWII, alongside other wars.

The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

Edmund Burke

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China, and communism in general, are not benevolent systems. They are dictatorial, malevolent systems set up to not only install a dictatorship, but for a dictatorship to remain in power for perpetuity.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

MAD has worked since 1945

Until 1949 the US was the only nation with nuclear weapons. King of the Hill, baby. We missed a good opportunity.

MAD didn't really become a thing until a while after that.

As this IS China's backyard we would start at a disadvantage.People speak of lack of aircraft carriers ànd force projection.
Taiwan is how far from Chinese territory? Taiwan would be ash's in minutes like Seoul would if No attacked.
On other hand some forget what happened to Baghdad in Desert Storm.

originally posted by: TDawg61
As this IS China's backyard we would start at a disadvantage.People speak of lack of aircraft carriers ànd force projection.
Taiwan is how far from Chinese territory? Taiwan would be ash's in minutes like Seoul would if No attacked.
On other hand some forget what happened to Baghdad in Desert Storm.

Then we might as well just allow China to become the strongest world power and take control over the entire world...

Is a US-China war in Asia inevitable?


War ‘Inevitable’ Between US, China: Russian, Chinese Media

Even the CCP has made this statement several times.

Chinese officials have published several reports indicating such a conflict is inevitable.


Unrestricted Warfare: China's Master Plan to Destroy America Paperback – November 10, 2015
by Qiao Liang (Author), Wang Xiangsui (Author)

Both authors are Chinese military strategists, and several other communist party officials have stated the same thing.

There is no if. It will happen, when it will start and whom will win is a question of whom is better prepared meanwhile certain government sections of the U.S., democrats/progressives/liberals, help in the demilitarization of the U.S. while ChIna keeps getting stronger and more ready for such an "inevitable war."

The Russians are too weak, even thou with the help of democrats the Russians attempt and succeed in affecting our elections by publishing lies about the POTUS. But Russia would never start a war with the U.S. However, if China starts the war with the U.S. Russia, and several other countries, will join China.

Without allies to the U.S., like Taiwan, the U.S. is much weaker.