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US on verge of total economic and societal collapse with next stimulus the catalyst

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posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:38 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

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I’m not the only one that has mentioned it...but they are economists and I am just some dude on a forum. Just, I have been talking about it longer. I mean it is only part of the Old Testament after all.

Then there is a little something, Ezekiel 18:13, if you want to be all vengeful. For fantasy I guess you could read it in Samuel L Jackson’s voice:

New International Version
He lends at interest and takes a profit. Will such a man live? He will not! Because he has done all these detestable things, he is to be put to death; his blood will be on his own head.




posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar

What a shame people pick-and-choose Bible verses. I mean, think of all those innocent women burned alive as witches because we couldn't 'suffer a witch to live' when all that time we could have been killing bankers and mortgage companies.



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:44 PM
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a reply to: jtma508

The Bible commands both.

/shrug



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:46 PM
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a reply to: The2Billies

I'm going to go ahead and predict we end 2020 with a USD worth 95% of what it was at the start of 2020. Not great, but not end of the world.

Also, regarding this proposed stimulus IF it passes (which is unlikely), it means one of two things in my opinion:

1) We're in the early stages of what is a FAR more major series of events, orchestrated and planned out, to completely change the world as we know it. The only way to stop it would likely be if a rogue group of white hats with a LOT of access and power.

2) Its part of a "live fire" economic war going on right now - and while it may look like a bad move on the surface, "we" (US, allies) ultimately come out on top.



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: CrazeeWorld777
The gold and silver etf's collapsed when everyone suddenly wanted their physical delivery. But they were paying in dollars on the way to bankruptcy court. It was the equivalent of a run on banks for cash withdrawal.
I never did trust those paper/digital Iou for gold.



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 12:58 PM
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originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: jtma508

The Bible commands both.

/shrug


My point exactly.



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 01:02 PM
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a reply to: jtma508

Emmhmm.

My further point would be that's psychotic, specifically to suggest that killing witches or lenders is justified.

Edit: My point further than that is that the Bible is not a sound basis for modern economic theory or legal issues.
edit on 13-5-2020 by Gryphon66 because: Noted



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: Ahabstar
I really believe this would be a good thing. Please pray that our leaders see this solution. Even GOD approves.



posted on May, 13 2020 @ 04:01 PM
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The national debt doesn’t matter in this context, who’s going to come a knocking and collect? All nations have debt to one another. The US has far to much world power to be outright challenged. Pulling on the debt won’t change squat. I don’t agree with them doing it, but national credit isn’t quite the same as personal.

a reply to: The2Billies


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posted on May, 13 2020 @ 08:51 PM
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Who could knock on the US’s door to collect anything?

In the unlikely event that they smuggle an expedition force across the ocean, steal some cash (or whatever), what is the odds of getting back to your home country without they or their home country being vaporized on the return trip? If we felt raw about it...



posted on May, 14 2020 @ 03:39 AM
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originally posted by: The2Billies

Many Governors seem to think this is all good because when the nation collapses, they can fundamentally change the nation into a socialist nation run by the political elite, and it will be a better place. Sure it will, for the political elite, that is what the real world socialist/communist nations have all become, every single one, paradise for the political elite, with the rest of the people equally poor, equally oppressed, equally under 24/7 surveillance and thrown in jail for saying anything bad about the political elite.


And they all think they're going to be part of that political elite.



The anti-liberty elite politicians have convinced many people in the US that economic disaster and humanitarian disasters are all worth it, to save the 1% of people who die if they catch COVID 19. Really? Anti-liberty and anti-humanitarian orders are worth it?

I guess it is if you want to destroy the economy, destroy the nation, subdue the people, oppress and repress the people, throw the populace into a submissive state of perpetual despair, so you can fundamental change the nation, it would be worth it.

Worth it to bring about socialism/communism where the elite politicians force the ignorant masses to live the way they tell the peons/surfs they must live, while the elite political class live in luxury, wealth and power.

This is what I see coming very soon. Courtesy of state Governors, and the US Congress who refuse to reopen the economy while spending enough money to buy votes and collapse the nation at the same time.




It's coming from many forms of fear.

People with low scholastic IQ, but high emotional IQ fear that the whole world will be run by tech geniuses soon. Because tech is seen as the only way the poor ever get rich anymore.

But if they have high Emotional IQ, then they would see a world run by political elites as one where they can rise to become billionaires.

They see all these tech billionaires, but they don't see a lot of social networking billionaires.

In a communist regime, even if the political leadership doesn't technically "own" all the nation's wealth, they are in charge of all of it. And possession is 90% of ownership, is it not?



posted on May, 14 2020 @ 05:52 AM
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We're around 100% of GDP, Other countries like devaluing their fiat against ours, unfortunately the road to hell is paved with good intentions and what we do is just ammo for other countries to keep control of their people. Americans don't have to worry, unfortunately the other civilians do.

a reply to: The2Billies


edit on 14-5-2020 by tonycodes because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 14 2020 @ 04:48 PM
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originally posted by: tonycodes
We're around 100% of GDP, Other countries like devaluing their fiat against ours, unfortunately the road to hell is paved with good intentions and what we do is just ammo for other countries to keep control of their people. Americans don't have to worry, unfortunately the other civilians do.

a reply to: The2Billies



Good point: If we started printing dollars, then our currency would devalue relative to theirs = good for exports.

Bad for big oil. Gas prices would rise (up the point where shaling in North Dakota begins again.)



posted on May, 14 2020 @ 11:05 PM
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a reply to: InTheLight


Stop or protest


Are those our only choices, master?

Also, you DO know that 'to protest' means 'to accept begrudgingly'? It means acceptance with complaining and the ability to address the issue in some way.

It's better to REJECT or DENY things you don't want, than to PROTEST.

Legalese has too much power in this world, but at least people should know how it differs from english.



posted on May, 14 2020 @ 11:58 PM
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originally posted by: Shoujikina
a reply to: InTheLight


Stop or protest


Are those our only choices, master?

Also, you DO know that 'to protest' means 'to accept begrudgingly'? It means acceptance with complaining and the ability to address the issue in some way.

It's better to REJECT or DENY things you don't want, than to PROTEST.

Legalese has too much power in this world, but at least people should know how it differs from english.


No, actually I meant STOP in a universal term.

If we restructure infrastructure and advance beyond fossil fuels we are winning including nature and life to come, including us.


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posted on May, 16 2020 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: vethumanbeing
Ummm...when I was in my Zen Buddhism stage...between that and the deep spiritual prayer...odd things would happen...
The disconcerting part was people would seek my presence...would go out of their way to touch me...would place themselves in my field of emanating energy...in the aura of extreme compassion that I had become...
It made me ill...not physically ill...but anguished that they would look at me so...all because I never placed myself as worthy of such adoration...

So you figured out where the leper colonies were and what routes to take to bypass without incident.

YouSir:I always sought their elevation above me...I only wanted to lift the whole of humanity...indeed all beings up above me...that they might attain...that they might become...lights...within the light...Not out of humbleness...out of never feeling worthy to be placed there myself...

You had plenty of quarters in your pockets to toss to the occasional sidewalk beggar.

YouSir: Those were high strange days...and even as I write this...I feel my inner self shy away from promise...and potential..Now... Now my actions...my thoughts...are gathered here amongst the mundane...where I prepare for collapse...and war...and keeping what I can defend...all for my families sake...

Armed myself with silly string. Real war requires a different mandate.

YouSir:I know where I’m going when I finally decide to step beyond the veil...I’ve sojourned there...I’ve found those switches that cause the physical nature to die...And I...this animating factor...continues...
For me...that beyond...is a place of exquisite warmth and love...a place where the entirety of the all is there as consciousness unzips...expands to the infinite...and realizes truth in nature...Perhaps...that’s a place I’ve built...entirely for my own amusement...I suppose we’ll get to see one day...

You will see it as you helped create it. Nirvana is for the opiate addicted (boring) got to step out of perfect love and affect chaos: change the paradigm.



posted on May, 17 2020 @ 09:41 AM
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I wouldn't say we are in for a civil-economic collapse... the outcome is more of a Fundamental Transformation that Mr Obama promised the nation would happen

we went from a representative Republic to a total Socialist State

of course the operational paradigms of the society/economy will change because of Waves of seasonal Pandemics sweeping the Globe
money will be re-set
universal stipends awarded monthly instead of Quarterly/Annually for those electing the Coronavirus Passport ID...
severe Rationed items provided those not pledging acceptance of Passport ID
the dreaded FEMA Camp threat realized as Eugenics gains high favor with the youths



posted on May, 17 2020 @ 10:17 AM
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a reply to: The2Billies

The mistake people at ground level make is in comparing the US budget or GDP to a normal American family's budget or earnings. There is no comparison though generations of media programming have insinuated otherwise.

The entire system and everything about it is an elaborate fiction, controlled by the world bank and the central banking cartel(s). All of it.

You could divide every credit/debit on earth by 10 and the percentages of true ownership would not change.

Money is complicity and consent.



posted on May, 17 2020 @ 10:43 AM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: The2Billies
If this passes, the American way of life, our Constitutional Republic is gone.

Thankfully, Pelosi's bill doesn't stand a chance of passing in the Senate.

Sorrowfully, there will almost certainly be another stimulus bill. Hopefully the Rs can limit the damage


We'll be a theird world nation, just a satellite state of China.

Unless their economy is secretly doing dramatically better than ours, that is doubtful.

We will pay for this in the long run through hidden taxes (in the form of inflation/loss of purchasing power), but we can survive it - as long as the insanity stops, and the sooner the better.



posted on May, 17 2020 @ 11:22 AM
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a reply to: tanstaafl

The problem is, the evil left is doubling down on insanity.

They can't allow the economy to even show signs of recovery because they'd have nothing to run on.

So I see more police-state tactics in our future.



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