Companies are dropping big hints about the 'new normal' once coronavirus lockdowns end

originally posted by: Gravelbone
a reply to: 727Sky

I might have to test that. Still haven't complied with the "mandate". Ordered take out yesterday at one of my local spots. Was one of 5 people waiting.
I was the only one without a mask. Staff had no fux to give. I recieved no dirty looks. Then a young girl came in, sans mask. She saw all the masked people and was about to turn around until I cleared my throat a bit. She looked relieved.

I've heard from a few people that some of the local bars(and next town overs), it's not uncommon to walk in for a pickup order and see about 6 or 8 people drinking pints at the bar....you know....waiting for their "pickup" order.

Sure, it's not a packed house, but over the course of a night you can probably sell a couple thousand bucks or so in beer with people "waiting" for their order.

'New normal', 'social distancing', flatten the curve'...
It's a shame they've taken 1984 off of the high school curriculum these days, or maybe i was lucky and just had a good teacher who really emphasized and made sure we understood what newspeak implied. Because honestly, these buzzwords are some dumb brainwashing # that's nearly as bad as the simple # Orwell came up with.

a reply to: ZapBrannigan3030

Nailed it. People are going to go to the place with less restrictions and are more comfortable. Folks dont like being told what to do. As soon as big business see's this happening they'll change their tunes REAL fast.

I work for a major company in the US that employs 35,000+

About 10% of our associates before covid19 worked from home.

Now, my company after having everyone work from home, will have 30% of our entire staff work from home permanently, and reduce the number of office locations and thus save an enormous amount of money on real estate space.

Our cubes.. when we do return in June/July will be staggered with every other cube empty.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Companies will mandate vaccine shots for continued employment

You may well be on to something there, in many instances they do it already

with children......

The introduction of ‘No jab, No school’ policy and the refinement of measles immunisation strategies in high-income countries.

In recent years, we witnessed a resurgence of measles even in countries where, according to WHO guidelines, elimination should have already been achieved. In high-income countries, the raise of anti-vaccination movements and parental vaccine hesitancy are posing major challenges for the achievement and maintenance of high coverage during routine programmes. Italy and France approved new regulations, respectively in 2017 and 2018, aimed at raising immunisation rates among children by introducing mandatory vaccination at school entry.

Our model shows that, under current vaccination policies, the susceptible fraction of the population would remain below measles elimination threshold only in Singapore and South Korea. In the UK, Ireland, the USA and Australia either the increase of coverage of routine programmes above 95% or the introduction of a compulsory vaccination at school entry with coverage above 40% are needed to maintain susceptible individuals below 7.5% up to 2050. Although the implementation of mandatory vaccination at school entry would be surely beneficial in Italy, strategies targeting adults would also be required to avoid future outbreaks in this country.

Current vaccination policies are not sufficient to achieve and maintain measles elimination in most countries. Strategies targeting unvaccinated children before they enter primary school can remarkably enhance the fulfilment of WHO targets.

bmcmedicine.biomedcentral.com...

a reply to: Gravelbone

I think the world has and will change forever, but not in a good way.
I had an interesting experience the other day. A while ago I booked some people to come and do some work around the house. They contacted me this week to say they were ready. BUT could I please fill out this form first. I had to state if:
In the last 14 days have you or someone you have regular close contact with been: Please tick... Displaying any of the following symptoms similar to the flu:
Fever
Cough
Shortness of breath
Breathing difficulty
Exposed to a person who has tested positive to Coronavirus
Have had a test for Coronavirus without a negative outcome
Returned from overseas
Placed in Quarantine
Has the premises been used or currently being used as a designated quarantine facility

The form goes on to state the rules under which they will attend and how they will work ie
Follow strict social distancing practices
Not shake your hand on arrival
Follow strict hygiene requirements
All payment is contactless and no cash will be accepted.

I found some of this really weird. Considering I'm getting the roof replaced on the house and they won't be coming inside the house at all. I also wondered what would happen if I did have the flu but not the virus.
Would that mean they would refuse to do the work? If it does, how on earth are people going to get work done around the house?

a reply to: eletheia
I may have to jack in my job....

Talking of vaccines......
Watch this interview from 2014.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Companies will mandate vaccine shots for continued employment

I doubt it....many very large Companies have changed leadership the last 2years....in fact thousands have.

I suspect that the biggest Companies we know of are now under new directives and we can clearly see Vaccines are being fought tooth and nail and will not be implemented upon anyone....

Bill Gates is a genetically weak little freak all you have to do is look at the guy to see that.

The insurance industry is talking a lot about this right now (I am an insurance journalist, which is a lot more interesting than it sounds). A lot can be done online these days and the younger underwriters are far more comfortable with technology than the older ones. Add on the fact that more and more loss adjusters are using technology like drones to assess storm/hurricane damage to buildings (they can pick up on things that you just can't see at ground level) and you have some possibly pretty profound changes to the industry.
That said, some still like to be able to look a client in the eye and assess what their office or business looks like. The personal touch, as it was.
One caveat. As one executive I interviewed yesterday afternoon said, in the immediate wake of 9/11 everyone said that travel will go down substantially - and six months later it was business as normal.

My thoughts on the whole return to work issue being raised everywhere.

Firstly, unless you are in a customer facing environment and instead are just a drone sat at a desk or cubicle, then surely working from home is the more viable option?
For years I have read numerous reports of studies into home working and the social and environmental benefits, with studies proving it’s a win-win both for the employees and employers. The employees are less stressed working in a more relaxed environment, even showing increased productivity, and not having to cope with the extra expense or stress of a commute. The employer can also realize savings on overheads due to reduced costs on providing the real estate required.
Ok, not everyone can do this obviously, but those who are able to should be actively encouraged to do so.

I think a lot of it comes down to employers wanting to exert control over the employees and their own arrogance and the prestige in occupying expensive city center concrete and glass towers.

The environmental impact is also a big win, with much less private and public transport occupying the roads, especially at current peak times. We are already seeing countries all over the world with oil storage at full capacity and tankers, fully laden, anchored all over place unable to offload. Ok, it’s hitting the oil industry, but isn’t that what many groups have been pushing for a long time now, cutting pollution which, lets be honest, does benefit us all?

Maybe this will become the new “normal” after all and COVID19 is the catalyst, real or manufactured, to make some real changes. A shame we still have the same monied interests though at the heart of everything, being bailed out again.

originally posted by: Gravelbone
a reply to: DiddyC

Lol. I've been self-employed for almost ten years now. I'll not have some overlord thank you very much.

The years leading up to this pandemic had me thinking about creating a home based business. I finally went and registered the business name in January, although I've been working up the idea for a few years now. Because you can deduct business expenses and a percentage of home use (including bills and renovations) I felt that even starting a business that failed would help me at tax time.

Normally I only earn enough to do alright on my tax returns, but this year I actually owed the fed, a measly $2, but I don't like giving them a single penny. However I was right about having a home based business, one that would generate some extra income I was under control of and at least some tax deductions next year.

I'm currently in a position to take advantage of a number of laws, including the latest "essential services" orders. Had I been ready when this hit, I could have worked from home while I waited to go back to my "real" job, or should I say my crappy, low paid job that the IRS wants a cut from. The stimulus check and unemployment money will actually help me get the home business rolling. Maybe my GF can appreciate my efforts now with the current crisis going on, she certainly jumped on the prepper survival ship, is more political and is doing her own research now.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
The insurance industry is talking a lot about this right now (I am an insurance journalist, which is a lot more interesting than it sounds). A lot can be done online these days and the younger underwriters are far more comfortable with technology than the older ones. Add on the fact that more and more loss adjusters are using technology like drones to assess storm/hurricane damage to buildings (they can pick up on things that you just can't see at ground level) and you have some possibly pretty profound changes to the industry.
That said, some still like to be able to look a client in the eye and assess what their office or business looks like. The personal touch, as it was.
One caveat. As one executive I interviewed yesterday afternoon said, in the immediate wake of 9/11 everyone said that travel will go down substantially - and six months later it was business as normal.

The insurance Industry is the Global Cabals SPINE......break it and you break them.....from WCB to Home or Business r Auto Insurance its all one huge Global Money Laundering Operation and Bank for the Global Money Mongers.....fail to break it and they retain power.

Fastest way to break Insurance Industry Domestic Terrorism acts is to sue them for astronomical amounts over and over until you break them with non-stop big huge bites...just a handful of MONSTROUS legally and morally correct Lawsuits AND decsions and this cabal asset is on its way out.

a reply to: Britguy

Good point about the controlling bosses. I left my old job in February without much of a second glance back because my old boss, who owned the firm, could be a total pain in the posterior about working from home. I think that it was a control issue - when people left the old office at the end of the day they almost sneaked away so that he didn't know exactly when they left.
Then he moved the firm to a new office that had terrible - and I mean catastrophically terrible - wifi (without which we could not do our bloody jobs) and all of a sudden he was much more flexible about working from home because there were days when it was that or nothing.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
The insurance industry is talking a lot about this right now (I am an insurance journalist, which is a lot more interesting than it sounds). A lot can be done online these days and the younger underwriters are far more comfortable with technology than the older ones. Add on the fact that more and more loss adjusters are using technology like drones to assess storm/hurricane damage to buildings (they can pick up on things that you just can't see at ground level) and you have some possibly pretty profound changes to the industry.
That said, some still like to be able to look a client in the eye and assess what their office or business looks like. The personal touch, as it was.
One caveat. As one executive I interviewed yesterday afternoon said, in the immediate wake of 9/11 everyone said that travel will go down substantially - and six months later it was business as normal.

The insurance Industry is the Global Cabals SPINE......break it and you break them.....from WCB to Home or Business r Auto Insurance its all one huge Global Money Laundering Operation and Bank for the Global Money Mongers.....fail to break it and they retain power.

Fastest way to break Insurance Industry Domestic Terrorism acts is to sue them for astronomical amounts over and over until you break them with non-stop big huge bites...just a handful of MONSTROUS legally and morally correct Lawsuits AND decsions and this cabal asset is on its way out.

Erm, I have no idea how to react to the above, other than to roll my eyes and move on to something more sensible. Insurance is not a scam.

originally posted by: Jason79
Meh, a few armed robbers, legit customers (or accomplices) suing the business for creating an atmosphere where masked criminals can blend in will end this quickly.

No. "Gait" recognition technology will replace facial recognition. All part of the plan.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
The insurance industry is talking a lot about this right now (I am an insurance journalist, which is a lot more interesting than it sounds). A lot can be done online these days and the younger underwriters are far more comfortable with technology than the older ones. Add on the fact that more and more loss adjusters are using technology like drones to assess storm/hurricane damage to buildings (they can pick up on things that you just can't see at ground level) and you have some possibly pretty profound changes to the industry.
That said, some still like to be able to look a client in the eye and assess what their office or business looks like. The personal touch, as it was.
One caveat. As one executive I interviewed yesterday afternoon said, in the immediate wake of 9/11 everyone said that travel will go down substantially - and six months later it was business as normal.

The insurance Industry is the Global Cabals SPINE......break it and you break them.....from WCB to Home or Business r Auto Insurance its all one huge Global Money Laundering Operation and Bank for the Global Money Mongers.....fail to break it and they retain power.

Fastest way to break Insurance Industry Domestic Terrorism acts is to sue them for astronomical amounts over and over until you break them with non-stop big huge bites...just a handful of MONSTROUS legally and morally correct Lawsuits AND decsions and this cabal asset is on its way out.

Erm, I have no idea how to react to the above, other than to roll my eyes and move on to something more sensible. Insurance is not a scam.

Its the Twin Sister to Fiat Money.Invisible Shackles.

I don't know how the regular office is going to open.

Open offices with very low cubicles or no cubicles have been the vogue for over a decade. Even if they block off every other cubicle, you are still pretty close - not to mention meeting in packed conference rooms. You still share breakrooms, doorknobs, and bathrooms.

Moving most jobs to virtual will be the end of most decent paying American jobs. If the job can be done anywhere, they won't pay American wages.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
Companies will mandate vaccine shots for continued employment

They can try - and the lawsuits will nix that BS right away.

a reply to: one4all

I didn't know that there are still people out there who want to return to the Gold Standard. Why?

originally posted by: 727Sky
I wonder how soon they would ban mask if the mask said, "MAGA Trump 2020" ? hahaha

I have seen those. The are available to purchase. You can get one on Amazon, Etsy, and Trump 2020 websites.

But you KNOW that any liberal/progressive/Democrat who sees one will feel compelled and think it is righteous to beat the crap out of anyone who wears one. Then Governors Cuomo, Newsom, Whitmer, Beshear, and Murphy will have the person wearing the mask hauled into jail for starting a public disturbance and give an award to the attacker for bravery. That's the way the world works in blue states.


As for the "new normal", look at how China treats it's citizens. The "new normal" looks very much like the suppression, oppression, repression found in China. Of course, that's also what blue states want for it's citizens, liberty is dangerous - to the elite political class that is. That is why uber liberal Google, wrote and worked on and gave the Chinese Dragonfly, and have shelved it for now but not promised to not be evil in the future and work on it more for more governments according to sources inside the quite evil Google empire. en.wikipedia.org...(search_engine) You know the social 100% surveillance of everyone in the country done by the elite political class for the good of the peons/surfs/slaves to the state who are too stupid and ignorant to manage their personal lives. www.bbc.com... Black Mirror is around the corner.

Thanks to Goggle and other super "liberal" tech corporations, and their pals, the Democrats who are now openly rabid socialist/and running as fast as they can toward communist style oppressive control of the ignorant masses, for their on good of course. Because a system like that gives the elite political class power, money and the right to do as they please to whomever they please; while they make everyone else equally poor and equally miserable and equally under 24/7 to make sure they remain that way because is it the fair and just way to run a country.