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Dr. Birx: ‘There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust’

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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:11 PM
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Wow, this is a surprise. Many on the Right think Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci are CDC/WHO puppets, who are working with the deep state to cause an economic collapse and discredit President Donald Trump.

Yesterday, it was reported that Dr. Birx "suspects the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are unintentionally inflating coronavirus case counts and death rates."


“Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it,” the Post reported Saturday, citing its anonymous sources.

Birx was reportedly so frustrated that she allegedly blurted out, “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”

www.bizpacreview.com...

Is Dr. Birx, who is the response coordinator on President Trump's coronavirus task force, starting to see the light? Or is she trying to cover her butt for initially supporting the CDC's questionable statisitics and claims?

After all, it wouldn't be the first time the CDC has been less than honest. Back in late March, a former Health and Human Services (HHS) official alleged that the delays in testing occurred because leaders at the Centers for Disease Control “lied” to the president, and to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, about the center’s ability to produce the kits.

How about the CDC's flip flopping on masks? Back in late February, health officials, including the CDC and the World Health Organization, recommended against people wearing face masks out in public. Remember this tweet from the Surgeon General in late February?



Then, in April, the CDC suddenly recommended that all Americans — even people who feel healthy — to wear cloth face masks or homemade face coverings in public when 6-feet social distancing is difficult to maintain in an effort to help slow the spread of the coronavirus. The new guidance, announced Friday, is a reversal from previous CDC recommendations that face masks need to be worn only by people who are sick with COVID-19, the illness caused by the new coronavirus, or by those caring for someone who is sick.

This "recommendation" has caused many fearful people to freak out in public, when they catch someone not wearing a mask. The mask, for some people, has become a security blanket, and many are caught wearing them inside their car, or even outside their home (like my neighbor).

But why the sudden reversal? Where's the science to back up the CDC's claim that wearing masks out in public "help slow the spread of the coronavirus?" The fact is...there is no scientific evidence!


Surgical and cotton masks are both ineffective when it comes to blocking droplets of the virus SARS–CoV-2 that may be generated when somebody coughs, according to investigators with the Ulsan College of Medicine, Seoul, South Korea.

tinyurl.com...

The above study showed that even surgical masks offer little protection to healthcare workers and that only 3M's N95 masks can stop the smaller Covid-19 airborne contaminants.


The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention offers contradictory guidelines when it comes to the use of surgical masks and that’s putting healthcare workers at risk, according to some worker advocates and experts.



Jonathan Rosen, a health and safety expert who advises unions, states and the federal government, tells KHN: “There’s no doubt in my mind that that’s one of the reasons that so many health care workers are getting sick and many are dying.”

www.infectioncontroltoday.com...

Lets also not forget about the criticism the CDC received on their death certificate guidelines concerning Covid-19.


"In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID cannot be made but is suspected or likely (e.g. the circumstances are compelling with a reasonable degree of certainty) it is acceptable to report COVID-19 on a death certificate as 'probable' or 'presumed.'"

...the CDC's death certificate manual tells physicians to focus on "precision and specificity," but the coronavirus death certification guidance runs completely counter to that axiom.

...under the CDC guidelines, a patient who died after being hit by a bus and tested positive for coronavirus would be listed as having presumed to have died from the virus regardless of whatever damage was caused by the bus.

www.foxnews.com...



IMO, it's not a good look for the CDC, when a leading voice on the coronavirus task force throws them under the bus. I can also understand why the Trump administration is both leery and frustrated with the information they're receiving from these top health "experts." How do they know the data and information they're getting is legit, especially now, after what Dr. Birx admitted?

She also stated that health experts, including herself, "underestimated" the number of asymptomatic cases in the United States.


"I think we underestimated, very early on, the number of asymptomatic cases. And I think we're really beginning to understand there are people that get infected -- that those symptoms are so low-grade that they don't even know that they're infected," Birx added. "And we're beginning to see that with the New York studies of their zero-antibody studies."


However, there were articles back in late March, that stated the Covid-19 fatality rate could be too high by orders of magnitude.

An article from late March, written by two professors of medicine at Stanford, Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya:


If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far.

Iceland’s first case was reported on Feb. 28, weeks behind the U.S. It’s plausible that the proportion of the U.S. population that has been infected is double, triple or even 10 times as high as the estimates from Iceland. That also implies a dramatically lower fatality rate.

...policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions.

A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns.

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Maybe Trump should've hired those Stanford professors as part of his coronavirus team. They knew back in late March what Dr. Birx and the rest of the "experts" are just now starting to grasp.



edit on 5/10/2020 by shawmanfromny because: (no reason given)



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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:15 PM
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Dr Birx daughter works for Gates



posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
Dr Birx daughter works for Gates


CDC works for Donald Trump.



posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:31 PM
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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:32 PM
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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:36 PM
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I think Birx was just caught up in the CDC misguided mindset. What they originally planned to do, try to slow down the virus outbreak till we were ready for it, was a good idea. But now the CDC went berserk, and so have some of the governors. Including our governor. Our governor is not even working with the CDC, she is finding her own people that will follow her beliefs to punish the people because she is not getting her way.

Oh well, I think people will wake up someday. They made way too many fearful, they blew things out of proportion. And I believe it is a lot more than twenty five percent over reporting of Covid deaths, I think if they actually looked at the records it would be less than half of the reported deaths in some states. The hospitals get money for covid deaths, but the idiots running the hospitals and states cannot fathom that that money is nothing compared to the money that the hospitals have lost in income. What happened to common sense in this country, I know it rarely exists in government, but the common people usually had some common sense. Maybe the colleges and schools drove the common sense out of the youth.


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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:41 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Back on April 4th, when the CDC issued orders for Coroners to label even deaths of people who COULD have had Covid-19, as "Covid-19 Deaths", the numbers skyrocketed.

When Dr. Fauci testifies before the Senate this coming Tuesday, he will have a lot of explaining to do!



posted on May, 10 2020 @ 10:44 PM
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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 11:14 PM
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All the inconsistencies and problems with the CDC are on Trump, from insisting on creating an American Covid 19 test, instead of using the W.H.O's test, to rejecting masks and then finding out we were having a PPE shortage to insisting that everyone where masks. It all reflects Trump's flip flopping on his own response on how to handle the pandemic...listen to scientists or pretend it doesn't exist and "let it ride" until we achieve herd immunity.



posted on May, 10 2020 @ 11:39 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: visitedbythem

All the inconsistencies and problems with the CDC are on Trump, from insisting on creating an American Covid 19 test, instead of using the W.H.O's test, to rejecting masks and then finding out we were having a PPE shortage to insisting that everyone where masks. It all reflects Trump's flip flopping on his own response on how to handle the pandemic...listen to scientists or pretend it doesn't exist and "let it ride" until we achieve herd immunity.



There are a lot of lying scientists right about now. Many doctors are setting the score correct right now too



posted on May, 10 2020 @ 11:40 PM
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posted on May, 10 2020 @ 11:53 PM
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Former Deputy Attorney General Rod Roseinstein sister is Dr. Nancy Messonnier.
Maybe Dr. Nancy Messonnier should be brought before Congress.

www.businessinsider.com... -wanted-to-fire-cdc-doctor-for-raising-alarm-on-coronavirus-wsj-2020-4

President Donald Trump threatened to fire Dr. Nancy Messonnier, a top official at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, after her blunt warnings about the severity of COVID-19 caused the stock market to plunge in February, The Wall Street Journal reported on Wednesday.


originally posted by: shawmanfromny
Wow, this is a surprise. Many on the Right think Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci are CDC/WHO puppets, who are working with the deep state to cause an economic collapse and discredit President Donald Trump.

Yesterday, it was reported that Dr. Birx "suspects the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are unintentionally inflating coronavirus case counts and death rates."


“Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC’s antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics — such as mortality rate and case count — by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it,” the Post reported Saturday, citing its anonymous sources.

Birx was reportedly so frustrated that she allegedly blurted out, “There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust.”

www.bizpacreview.com...

Is Dr. Birx, who is the response coordinator on President Trump's coronavirus task force, starting to see the light? Or is she trying to cover her butt for initially supporting the CDC's questionable statisitics and claims?

After all, it wouldn't be the first time the CDC has been less than honest. Back in late March, a former Health and Human Services (HHS) official alleged that the delays in testing occurred because leaders at the Centers for Disease Control “lied” to the president, and to Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, about the center’s ability to produce the kits.

How about the CDC's flip flopping on masks? Back in late February, health officials, including the CDC and the World Health Organization, recommended against people wearing face masks out in public. Remember this tweet from the Surgeon General in late February?



However, there were articles back in late March, that stated the Covid-19 fatality rate could be too high by orders of magnitude.

An article from late March, written by two professors of medicine at Stanford, Dr. Bendavid and Dr. Bhattacharya:


If the number of actual infections is much larger than the number of cases—orders of magnitude larger—then the true fatality rate is much lower as well. That’s not only plausible but likely based on what we know so far.

Iceland’s first case was reported on Feb. 28, weeks behind the U.S. It’s plausible that the proportion of the U.S. population that has been infected is double, triple or even 10 times as high as the estimates from Iceland. That also implies a dramatically lower fatality rate.

...policy makers will need to focus on reducing risks for older adults and people with underlying medical conditions.

A universal quarantine may not be worth the costs it imposes on the economy, community and individual mental and physical health. We should undertake immediate steps to evaluate the empirical basis of the current lockdowns.

archive.fo...-2481.0-2481.224

Maybe Trump should've hired those Stanford professors as part of his coronavirus team. They knew back in late March what Dr. Birx and the rest of the "experts" are just now starting to grasp.





posted on May, 11 2020 @ 12:07 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

It is Washington D.C.
Simple as 1 2 3.

Watch your back Jack.

S A V V Y ?

Just you wait and see.

S&F

edit on 11-5-2020 by Wildmanimal because: the charts go up and down and round and round



posted on May, 11 2020 @ 12:26 AM
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I work with and along side of "the CDC".. I do not work FOR them. Anyway, when you say "the CDC" youre talking about a LOT of cooks in the one kitchen and a multitude of departments and specific heads of divisions within the departments. By the time it filters down to those in the field .. and that is by debriefing or briefing.. the information has already been twisted and rolled by every level before. I hinted at it some in the initial stages of the pandemic response.. but there is a very SERIOUS issue with consistent information and consistent application of protocols. Its truly all over the place and a cluster. Now on a usual non emergency basis, the CDC is pretty under control. WHen you have outbreaks or issues like this pandemic.. people lose their marbles.
The pentagon and DoD had their stuff under control as much as could be. Mainly because they serve one god.. so to speak. The cdc does not have that luxury.



posted on May, 11 2020 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

No Kidding.
Second Line.
S&F.



posted on May, 11 2020 @ 12:57 AM
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a reply to: shawmanfromny

I think ''corona virus''' is the final stage of a big scenario that the ''elite'' of the world have orchestrated and worked on for decades if not centuries...Their goal to control and renew the world order has been debated for so long that over time it has somehow decreased in value and lost its credibility on the eyes of the masses...It all started after the world war II with the creation of new world powers and destroying the older ones...Cold war,revolutions in the middle east,creation of Israel,the sep 11 ''incident'' ,axes of evil, intentional inflation of china,and to the more recent affairs making of isis,taking over the ME and African countries and also assassinating Soleimani,etc,etc has all led us to this corona virus and it will eventually lead us to mandatory injection of a vaccine that god knows what will put in our bodies, are all parts of a scheme run by a few to make us better slaves and control us for another century to come...But the difference is this time people are more aware, thanks to the internet which ironically is been created by the elites themselves.So lets hope that this awareness will lead us to a better understanding of the world and prevents them to accomplish this satanic mission.



posted on May, 11 2020 @ 01:20 AM
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Dr. Birx is just confirming that she knows that many of us know that all of them are standing around with their pants down. Our best "experts" are getting outed by outspoken doctors both here and abroad; the scandalous Imperial model has been debunked, and even youtube stars with more logic than the lot of them point to something closer to the truth. We shouldn't trust any of them up on that stage; it's all a performance based on the fictional account of a true story.



posted on May, 11 2020 @ 01:27 AM
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There was a report published in September 2019 by Global Preparedness Monitoring Board which is CO-CONVENED BY: WHO and the world bank.

A WORLD AT RISK . Annual report on global preparednessfor health emergencies

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On page 10 :




The cover of the report...is that coronavirus in there?...and people wearing face mask...this was published in September 2019..


Simulated exercises...oh btw there was some Simulated exercises on 9/11 and boston marathon bombings also , this seem to be happening too often with the events IMO

And who happen to be in Global Preparedness Monitoring Board...Dr.Anthony Fauci



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