It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Trump & UFO/UAP

page: 1
3
<<   2 >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:27 PM
link   
ATS Crew,

I am something of a lurker. I am really interested in hearing what the lot of us have to say about Trump and the phenomenon listed in the Topic.

Why doesnt Trump change the (inter)national storyline away from his Administration's Pandemic reaction....to the official release of the 3 videos? Hes obviously not a deep state player, so what's with his skepticism? Is it:

1) His ego simply wont allow him to accept something that reduces his personal stature (my opinion). Evidence of this is behavior is evident in his personal and professional life.

2) He believes that video and its implications are a deep state hoax, that seeks to make him look small or even over his head.

3) He is waiting for a point prior to the election to announce something so as to create the notion that we cant change horses midstream, aiding his bid to gain a second term. To change the narrative at a critical point?

4) He just doesnt give a crap, as there isnt an obvious means by which to financially benefit short term....both for himself and the public. A justifiable, but incredibly disappointing position, IMO.

Your theories and thoughts?

This is not a pro/con Trump post. Everyone knows who he IS and how he thinks by now. His lack of intellectual curiosity regarding UFO/UABs is daunting given his "Space Force" program.

Its OK to be critical of Trump. He is a public figure who is doing his best, I suppose.... but his lack of attention to this is a bad move. The statement that we are not alone would certainly change his (and our) current trajectory.

Thoughts?




posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:30 PM
link   
4.
No real money to be had there for the United States.

Anyway,
What nation wants to be known as the UAP nation who believes in Aliens and that Elvis is orbiting the moon in a small pod with tassels hanging off the back?

And if he did change the storyline, cool, headlines be like
"Donald Trump using UFOs to distract the world from his inability to handle the pandemic."

(I'm a right leaner so don't take this as an anti-Trump response, that's just what the headlines would say.)



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:32 PM
link   
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

Do you think Trump has ever read even one article, about UFO’s in his entire life?

I’m pretty sure all his readings were Playboy and the Wall Street Journal.

Money, women, power.... repeat



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:33 PM
link   
Trump is not particularly interested in the UFO issue. He's said as much. Trump, like all Presidents, is a bit player at best, a temp who is here for 4-8 years, after which he will go away. As such he is not privy to deep secrets. He has no "need to know" and TPTB are not about to tell him, especially because he is such a loose cannon with his mouth.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:33 PM
link   

originally posted by: SparkyMcBurny

4) He just doesnt give a crap, minus the rest of your point...
Your theories and thoughts?



I would think this is so far down the list right now for him that it isn't even on his radar yet, or maybe never.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:43 PM
link   
a reply to: Xtrozero


...and that is the problem! While I agree that there would be those who would raise their eyebrows in the media about his trying to distract the public, and would say so.. the PUBLIC would really change their thinking. Woukd it not be better for Trump if people were frightened over something that his administration didnt fumble?



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:46 PM
link   

originally posted by: SparkyMcBurny

...and that is the problem! While I agree that there would be those who would raise their eyebrows in the media about his trying to distract the public, and would say so.. the PUBLIC would really change their thinking. Woukd it not be better for Trump if people were frightened over something that his administration didnt fumble?



Frightened over what? You say your post is "not a pro/con Trump post" but boy your words sure do suggest anti Trump... just saying lol.

UFO means what exactly to be frightened of?



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 01:48 PM
link   
At this point in my life I am overly exhausted with ''Unidentified''
I will give these sightings little more of my attention until they turn into ''Identified''.

As a youth, over fifty years ago I had two very strong ''unidentified'' sightings and one ''identified'' sighting of my own. The one that I identified was a saucer cruising less than a mile away high in the mountains until it dissapeared behind the trees. In my sight for around 15 seconds.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:02 PM
link   
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

I think he has given a statement regarding his beliefs on UAP's ( I still want to call them UFO's but whatever.) I think he is just trying to be diplomatic about it. in the statement he gave he wanted to give credit to what the pilots saw but also say what his persoanl beliefs are.




posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:06 PM
link   
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

dear mr. mcburney. burney is an irish name, right? i love ireland! have always loved it. the sea, the icy wind. wind is a good thing. love it. without wind you can't sail, right? but wind can be evil. hurricanes, orcas, catastrophic events, a disaster. wind is a bad thing, maybe we should do something about that. my hair would look better without wind, right? i hope you like my hair.

i love ufos. i am very interested, i once told ivanka that i would like to open a hotel on the moon, but who knows if you can even land up there, right? do we know if there are aliens? probably, i think so, i could ask, then i would probably know, maybe i would. if they are interesting informations i will have them published. love informations. i like to look at the stars. fascinating things, these stars. shine so bright, even though they are thousands of thousands of miles away from us. unbelievable. apollo 13, my favourite film. cape cerareval we have a problem. famous words. heroes. although they didn't do anything, but they were heroes. that's ok. they survived. great story. i love it. i will keep the topic in mind, who knows, maybe ufos really exist? would be a sensation, everybody would love it. after my re-election i will deal with it. let's make america the greatest country in the universe! trump

edit on 30-4-2020 by oloufo because: (no reason given)

edit on 30-4-2020 by oloufo because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:16 PM
link   

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: SparkyMcBurny

...and that is the problem! While I agree that there would be those who would raise their eyebrows in the media about his trying to distract the public, and would say so.. the PUBLIC would really change their thinking. Woukd it not be better for Trump if people were frightened over something that his administration didnt fumble?



Frightened over what? You say your post is "not a pro/con Trump post" but boy your words sure do suggest anti Trump... just saying lol.

UFO means what exactly to be frightened of?



People, most people would be scared poopless if the narrative of potential alien/alt dimensional equipment or entities were here and exhibiting tech we have no answer to. That WOULD BE a HUGE benefit to Trump right now.

Sure those of us who have been paying attention to UAP (and have experienced such) wouldnt be frightened, and frankly would doff our collective cap to DJT if did it, regardless of his motivation.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:16 PM
link   
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

I don't think you all get it.
Its not just our government trying to keep disclosure on the subject. This has been shared countless times by contactees. What ever they are, they are hand and foot working this planet over like puppet masters, and what their will is, goes.
Do you have any idea the kind of sophistication a technology takes to do the things these craft are doing? These beings piloting these things are so far ahead of us and not just on a technological scale. I'm talking, mentally, physically, emotionally, socially.
They can bend, break, reshape, manipulate, tear down, build up, and conquer a species like us with four arms behind their back and using just their thoughts.
edit on 4/30/2020 by kiliker30 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:18 PM
link   


TextAs such he is not privy to deep secrets. He has no "need to know" and TPTB are not about to tell him, especially because he is such a loose cannon with his mouth.
a reply to: schuyler

who are "TPTB" in regards to UAP ? MJ12 is done and over with right??



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:20 PM
link   

originally posted by: schuyler
Trump is not particularly interested in the UFO issue. He's said as much. Trump, like all Presidents, is a bit player at best, a temp who is here for 4-8 years, after which he will go away. As such he is not privy to deep secrets. He has no "need to know" and TPTB are not about to tell him, especially because he is such a loose cannon with his mouth.



Yeah. Since Ike, maybe Kennedy.... they are likely the last to be fully up to speed with the topic. LBJ obvs didnt have the full briefing, otherwise that nutjob would have tried to enlist the aliens.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:22 PM
link   

originally posted by: kiliker30
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

I don't think you all get it.
Its not just our government trying to keep disclosure on the subject. This has been shared countless times by contactees. What ever they are, they are hand and foot working this planet over like puppet masters, and what their will is, goes.
Do you have any idea the kind of sophistication a technology takes to do the things these craft are doing? These beings piloting these things are so far ahead of us and not just on a technological scale. I'm talking, mentally, physically, emotionally, socially.
They can bend, break, reshape, manipulate, tear down, build up, and conquer a species like us with four arms behind their back and using just their thoughts.



Agreed. I just think that Trump is missing a political opportunity to share those very thoughts with the public. COVID concerns would take a back seat.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:25 PM
link   
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

Just remember, anything you're seeing in the big media, ain't happening by chance. Its all on purpose. Like I said, they know how to sway mass opinion in ways you wouldn't believe.
Take everything with a grain of salt and fine pick and comb it.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:27 PM
link   

originally posted by: kiliker30
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

I don't think you all get it.
Its not just our government trying to keep disclosure on the subject. This has been shared countless times by contactees. What ever they are, they are hand and foot working this planet over like puppet masters, and what their will is, goes.
Do you have any idea the kind of sophistication a technology takes to do the things these craft are doing? These beings piloting these things are so far ahead of us and not just on a technological scale. I'm talking, mentally, physically, emotionally, socially.
They can bend, break, reshape, manipulate, tear down, build up, and conquer a species like us with four arms behind their back and using just their thoughts.


but there is not one film that shows these 'impossible' manoeuvres. there are only eyewitness reports. so nothing is proven and therefore one has to assume that they are man-made crafts (in the case of the three known films).



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:31 PM
link   
a reply to: oloufo

Man made or not, you really think a nations leader ie our president of the United States above all people would be the one to finally "disclose" a well guarded secret that has been spanning centuries in human culture?
No. Its the everyday people who have their own stories that speak up in their place. The people who get silenced about their actual experiences, who get shunned off as loonies and nut jobs.
We are wiser then this i hope, to believe something so mind bending as this would just be revealed one day on a whim by our leaders?
The same leaders who manipulate the economy and keep the masses in a constant state of working tired and hungry and broke?
We are just objects to them, they don't give a damn, and they sure as hell arnt going to shed more then just crumbs to the bottom feeders if there was any proof of aliens or man made advances like such.



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:38 PM
link   

originally posted by: KKLOCO
a reply to: SparkyMcBurny

Do you think Trump has ever read even one article, about UFO’s in his entire life?

I’m pretty sure all his readings were Playboy and the Wall Street Journal.

Money, women, power.... repeat


trump doesn't even read his intelligence briefings.

www.axios.com...



posted on Apr, 30 2020 @ 02:48 PM
link   
I doubt we would know any more if Hilary Clinton won. It is prolly top secret for a reason.



new topics

top topics



 
3
<<   2 >>

log in

join