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Yes, Your Phones are Spying On You

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posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 11:56 AM
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Of course I'm not saying anything new. Yes, your phone tracks everywhere you go (might listen in to your conversations or access your camera too), and I wouldn't insult you by implying that I'm saying anything new.

I did, however, read an article today that gave me pause. Here we have the University of Maryland tracking cellphone data regarding who is and who is not complying to stay-at-home orders.

Meanwhile, an analysis of smartphone data from the University of Maryland has shown that the nationwide social distancing index has dropped three percent, which equates to millions of people leaving their homes.

According to the university's data, 44 out of 50 states are going backwards in terms of social distancing. The largest shifts have been in the south with Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee among the worst offenders.

I am an absolute anomoly (and maybe the last one left) in that I never got a cell phone. I did not want a device which would fundamentally change me and change the way I interacted with the world, and never saw the advantages of having one as outweighing the disadvantages. Therefore I may be the only one who is adamantly opposed to carrying around a tracking device; this news does not sit well with me. What do you think, ATSers?
And if you don't like it, what is to be done?
www.dailymail.co.uk...




posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: zosimov

Well, like you say tracking your phone is nothing new. This apparently is just using the data currently available.

Remember that map that showed where the Florida Spring breakers went after partying down? Same info.

Its readily available and many companies use that data and have been for a long time.

I fully agree with your premise that it isn't good but this is simply one more application using current widely available data.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:06 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

I think we have reached a point where we must decide if our creations will subjugate us, or be used as tools to leverage human ingenuity, spirit, and exploration.

Kinda complicates it that some folks want slaves, albeit "modern" ones. That particular Story has played out for thousands of years. So, even if all technology was suddenly whisked away, we would be facing all the same problems in that respect.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:10 PM
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Thanks for the interesting comments so far!

I'll be on later to respond in more detail.



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posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:10 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov
I am an absolute anomoly (and maybe the last one left) in that I never got a cell phone. I did not want a device which would fundamentally change me and change the way I interacted with the world, and never saw the advantages of having one as outweighing the disadvantages. Therefore I may be the only one who is adamantly opposed to carrying around a tracking device; this news does not sit well with me. What do you think, ATSers?


Remember during the meet up in Denver when I accidentally slipped and bumped into you? CIA trick to shove an implant into your neck.


But I 100% know my phone is listening, the wife asked me to look something obscure up on Saturday and by the second letter the phone ha already spelled out the sentence of what I wanted to find.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov
Of course I'm not saying anything new. Yes, your phone tracks everywhere you go (might listen in to your conversations or access your camera too), and I wouldn't insult you by implying that I'm saying anything new.

I did, however, read an article today that gave me pause. Here we have the University of Maryland tracking cellphone data regarding who is and who is not complying to stay-at-home orders.

Meanwhile, an analysis of smartphone data from the University of Maryland has shown that the nationwide social distancing index has dropped three percent, which equates to millions of people leaving their homes.

According to the university's data, 44 out of 50 states are going backwards in terms of social distancing. The largest shifts have been in the south with Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee among the worst offenders.

I am an absolute anomoly (and maybe the last one left) in that I never got a cell phone. I did not want a device which would fundamentally change me and change the way I interacted with the world, and never saw the advantages of having one as outweighing the disadvantages. Therefore I may be the only one who is adamantly opposed to carrying around a tracking device; this news does not sit well with me. What do you think, ATSers?
And if you don't like it, what is to be done?
www.dailymail.co.uk...


They even track you when they are off...

Most people are willing to give up privacy for convenience. Just an unfortunate reality.

I prefer when we didn't have cell phones, but if you have to operate in modern society, it is almost impossible to do so without one.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:12 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

Doesn't matter if you don't have a smartphone , other peoples phones are listening to you , logging your movements too.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:13 PM
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Location data has been around since early mobile phones.

You forget, your provider can legitimately see your phone's location as you are sat on their network. How do you think they can plan network capacity/upgrades/new mast installations.

Anonymised location data is one thing, tagging your identity is a whole different affair. I'd be more concerned about the torrent of data willingly shared from various apps.

Did Jury Service in the early 2000s and the amount of location data submitted by Vodafone was staggering. Those crims were using what we might now term dump phones. SMS only, WAP if they were lucky. So this is not a new phenomenon.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:15 PM
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It's not just your phone.. does your vehicle have on star?


I didn't want a smart phone, but where I live it was the most cost efficient way to have internet access.

I turn it off completely before sleep and leave it in my personal bathroom. I hardly left my mountain as it was before the 'Rona so it's not like I'm worried about being tracked..actually have only left my property twice since February, but again that's not unusual for me..

I was supposed to take a trip down to new Hampshire in March to visit my buddy and play some call of duty, but I live with two at risk senior citizens, so I thought better of it..

As far As what is to be done, I don't know..
I guess it's a personal decision that each individual should make for themselves..

Convenience or privacy..



Respectfully,
~meathead



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:16 PM
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a reply to: Edumakated

Beat me to it..you type fast...



Respectfully,
~meathead



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:22 PM
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So you are someone who has seen that special look on peoples faces when you state that you do not have a phone. Do you have as much fun as me to place that bombshell at the right moment. You know when it is clear that someone simply assumes you are a phony. You let them ramble on a bit more and booom "I dunno, I have no phone."... that two secs of disbelieving silence and a "is this person dangerous" fight or flee confusion battleling for the main expression before ohs and ehs stutterings end the conversation. I love that showstopper.

You are not alone.

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posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:36 PM
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You are not anymore free then us even if you believe you are. You posted on a computer right? Your post online too right? You have a land line perhaps? How new of a vehicle do you drive? How modern are you appliances? How close do you live to your neighbors? Do you commute along an interstate? Travel out of country? Use social media of any kind?

They probably know you better then you know yourself with or without a cell phone.
edit on 27-4-2020 by Athetos because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:37 PM
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Just gotta stick it in the microwave for 2 minutes and it will deactivate the tracking.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:43 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Just gotta stick it in the microwave for 2 minutes and it will deactivate the tracking.


From experience, that works a treat



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:47 PM
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originally posted by: Lysergic
Just gotta stick it in the microwave for 2 minutes and it will deactivate the tracking.


You talking about a phone or a Chihuahua?



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:48 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

Number of times my phone has come in handy: 45642315648945615615649 and counting.

Number of times my phone has got me busted by the gestapo: 0 (yet!)

I guess if I was ever on the run I could just smash the damn thing. But, there are a ton of ways to be tracked besides a phone.


edit on 27-4-2020 by FauxMulder because: keyboard has the kung flu



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:53 PM
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originally posted by: zosimov
Of course I'm not saying anything new. Yes, your phone tracks everywhere you go (might listen in to your conversations or access your camera too), and I wouldn't insult you by implying that I'm saying anything new.

I did, however, read an article today that gave me pause. Here we have the University of Maryland tracking cellphone data regarding who is and who is not complying to stay-at-home orders.

Meanwhile, an analysis of smartphone data from the University of Maryland has shown that the nationwide social distancing index has dropped three percent, which equates to millions of people leaving their homes.

According to the university's data, 44 out of 50 states are going backwards in terms of social distancing. The largest shifts have been in the south with Louisiana, North Carolina, South Carolina and Tennessee among the worst offenders.

I am an absolute anomoly (and maybe the last one left) in that I never got a cell phone. I did not want a device which would fundamentally change me and change the way I interacted with the world, and never saw the advantages of having one as outweighing the disadvantages. Therefore I may be the only one who is adamantly opposed to carrying around a tracking device; this news does not sit well with me. What do you think, ATSers?
And if you don't like it, what is to be done?
www.dailymail.co.uk...



How is this level of “tracking” in any way a greater intrusion than say, aerial photography showing vehicle traffic patterns? Or satellite imagery taken at night and showing the lighting patterns of cities, demonstrating their population patterns?

At some point, a person really has to own up to their paranoia...And maybe seek some help.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: zosimov

There are answers... Keep your mobile devices in a Faraday Bag when not directly using them and, if you anticipate really wanting a bit of privacy, this store has some amazing toys. Use VPNs for web activities. Use creative facial coverings in this era of acceptable public mask wearing thanks to COVID to prevent almost all facial recognition efforts you're likely to encounter.

Be smart, take the privacy you want rather than just being satisfied with the fleeting crumbs of privacy the system permits you to keep.



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 12:59 PM
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this is true! my phone comes on at almost the same time daily! and now some random times as well! so the only thing i can do is tell the phone to F off and stand naked in front of it lol but this doesn't seem to discourge this behavior from the phone even though I'm 58 yrs old and rather portly, that means I'm not in the best shape anymore! I guess we will never get away from this crap, smart TV's and appliances and phones etc. what do they learn from me watching Judge Judy or Antiques Roadshow etc, let alone hundred's of million's of peoples info and all those family photo's and attemps at amiture porn! baffeling



posted on Apr, 27 2020 @ 01:03 PM
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Well for starters, without going into the whole spill, never use data on ANY cellphone, and if you don't know how to keep from doing that, then you deserve to be 'spied' on lol




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