California bans protests at state Capitol after opposition to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s coronavirus stay

a reply to: ketsuko

No, I've knocked liberal New York quite hard in the past for their crazy use of eminent domain.
Then I moved out of the crazy state. California is a tad bit crazy also, but that doesnt change the fact that govts have always took it upon themselves to restrict movements of people in an epidemic. Heck, even god seems to like the idea of sheltering in place. I mean, isnt that what the passover was all about? Protecting themselves from the plague that killed the firstborn??

a reply to: EternalShadow

Then there's nothing preventing the California Highway Patrol from not issuing permits to allow the demonstrations?

a reply to: ketsuko

But, it's okay to build a wall through a golf course...
Okay...
What is stopping the person from going out and finding themselves an "essential" job to help tide them over. Pizza delivery pays around 15 an hour.. That along with the 1200 dollars, along with unemployment, along with the fact that most banks and utility companies are being quite understanding....

a reply to: EternalShadow

Could you imagine the fear if these people didn't know how to treat a minor sinus infection? Even essential workers would be shut down because people were seeing a little blood in their snot when they blew their nose.

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: EternalShadow

We live in one of the most free countries in the world....
What tyranny???

First of all, what planet are you on?

Secondly, yes they were suggestions until they reached the state level, and then certain states, like California, went completely rogue and started implementing draconian measures.

Just about every country that has been affected by this virus has resorted to measures similar to what we have...

I'm not concerned about other countries as it pertains to our laws unless said other countries want to infringe on those laws. Are you a globalist?

Red states, blue states, most states have.....no state has reached the level required to ease up.

Well then we should all just fall in line and be trampled into hammered snip because everyone else is doing it to.🙄 (I heard North Dakota has had 14 deaths statewide...if that's true, we definitely need to keep our eye on ND, for sure.🙄)

That only means the problem is growing larger! It's not a "unifying" strategy if that strategy involves tearing up the Bill of Rights. That's how it's being fed to the masses, those that are glued to the TV news, that "this is our moment....our moment be unified in this dark time."

You wanna gobble up that guilt trip, then by all means, go for seconds! Plenty to go around.

And. In case you dont know what a death bond is, I will explain.

No need, I'm aware of it and its despicable.

How it applies to our discussion at hand is beyond me.🤷🏽‍♂️

a reply to: dawnstar

You know what lead up to the need for Passover? Government oppression. I remember this whole story about how God told Moses to go to Pharaoh and instruct him to *free* the Israelites, as in stop enslaving and oppressing them.

So by saying what you just did, you skipped over that part of the story and went straight to equating the California government with God.

a reply to: dawnstar

My nephew works as pizza delivery.

His hours are way, way down now. Do you know why? No one is ordering pizza. Either they're afraid to or they don't have any money left because none of them are essential and have any left for things like pizza.

Essential jobs are nice, but only if the commerce still coming is enough to keep you working in them.

a reply to: dawnstar

So build around the golf course and cemetery or push the wall back. Unless the golf course or cemetery sits in Mexico then the wall can be built around it. Not sure who do something as silly as building a golf course right at the border where coyotes bring the smuggled people to though.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: EternalShadow

Then there's nothing preventing the California Highway Patrol from not issuing permits to allow the demonstrations?

No, there's something I read somewhere that keeps them from denying free speech and assembly...I just can't put my finger on it...🙄

a reply to: dawnstar

What meat processors and grocery stores are shutting down? Grocery stores are one of the only places you can still go without having to stand 6' behind someone, and they've stayed fairly stocked. I feel like you're pushing a false agenda because Trump said no more illegals and the left flailed and said crops wouldn't be picked now.

a reply to: LSU2018

Ha, ha, ha...
I could tell whenever I had a hard day at work because I would be crapping blood, and not just a little afterwards. Got tired of spending more in doctor Bill's than i made trying to take care of my health problems and quit. And so didnt the blood soon afterwards. Between the feet and that, well I was out of the workforce, no insurance so no healthcare. Last doctor I talked to was the social security guy certifying my disability. He saw something he didnt like and told me I should go see my doctor asap... I had absolutely no income at that time, so well.. I really ain't sure what he was concerned about. Could have been a few things. I went close to a year with no income and survived... I dont buy the idea that people cant last a month when they are given 1200, have the food banks open to them, have the governor telling the electric company they cant shut off the electricity. Banks foregoing mortgage and car payments...

a reply to: LSU2018

She's referring to Smithfield shutting down some of its facilities. Cargill had an outbreak at one of its plants too.

Thing is that we've been able to find the meat we need every week so far, both meat and fish.

a reply to: LSU2018

They didnt build around it, they built through it.. it's now closed down. Same story for the cemetary..

a reply to: ketsuko

We haven't, and I talked to my sister in New York, she was going through the same thing. It's in the stores now, but there was a few weeks when you couldnt find it. Unless of course you are talking about the higher priced meats.. then ya if I wanted to spend 7 or 8 bucks for a pound of meat.. in which case, I'll buy a gun or two and send my kids out to find bambi!!

a reply to: LSU2018

Actually, it was an interview with some of the farmers in California and while the migrant workers not being allowed in was one problem mentioned, there were others reasons given.

Edited to add, actually there are two golf courses, one was killed., the other is threatened.

www.golfadvisor.com...

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: xuenchen

Plenty of work. With plenty of fresh air and sunshine.. out of the house frolicking in the open fields..
Till farmer joe comes around and sees how badly you destroyed the strawberry plants and sends you home.

It's ALL about training and education ain't it ! 😃

a reply to: rounda

Class action lawsuits.

If your state is violating the constitution, join a class action lawsuit

originally posted by: dawnstar
a reply to: rounda

They should have rounded them all up and quarentined them for 14 days. Or, at least that is what I would have done, unless I was in a bad mood...
If I was in a bad mood, after hearing their.. "we have the right to work" a couple of times, they would all be given a choice spend 30 days in a virus ridden jail or 30 days working for minimum wage harvesting the crops and getting the food to the people.

How very socialist and communist of you!

originally posted by: rounda
a reply to: Allaroundyou

I think it has more to do with not wanting to subject themselves to a great depression where many more people will die from malnutrition than a virus.

We are headed that way for sure and the evidence is clearly on grocery shelves - you know - the great swaths of empty ones.

I'd protest somewhere else then.



The tyrannical hand of government is not a surprise.

The growing number of people who support tyranny is though.