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SCI/TECH: Tax Collector Employs Technology to Snare Deadbeats

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posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 11:28 PM
The New Bootfinder system in New Haven, Connecticut, allows tow-truck driver's working for the City to scan license plates as they drive down a street. They are scanning for people who owe the state taxes on their cars. Using a laptop and a handheld scanning device brings the fear of having your car stolen by the City on a daily basis for some.
The system is comprised of an infrared camera that rapidly scans license plates and, connected to a laptop computer in the New Haven system, scours a list of car tax delinquents. Previously, New Haven officials had to rely on mailed notices and phone calls to try to collect overdue car taxes.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Can you imagine going into a store and comming out only to find that your car has been taken. You call the police and fill out a report only to find out that it was your own City that had stolen your car for being past due on your taxes.

For now it is used by some tow-truck drivers. Soon Cameras on the highway will be able to tell everything about who is drving. Where when and how long a driver has been on the road, taxes due, profiles for custom billboards. Cameras in your car for a "smart car" telling you if you can drive at all.

What happened your privacy? Allowing these company's to slowly intergrate with our government to spy on everything we do all in the name of "safety" slowly but surely YOU and I are letting one thing after another slide by until WE are in a total police state. Welcome to Nazi-USA. We need to do something before it's all to late. before another terrorist attack suspends our Bill-of-Rights. Wake-up.

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posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 04:10 AM
It sounds like something that the state of Va. will be doing in not the so far future. Itstead of this being a "Commonwealth" state, it would sound and look better if thay would address it as the "Communist" state. They have had a similiar law on the books and the local police in our area employ this little trick on unsuspecting citizens.

posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 06:39 AM

Originally posted by FLYIN HIGH

Itstead of this being a "Commonwealth" state, it would sound and look better if thay would address it as the "Communist" state.

No. It's fascism. ala Mussolini's definition. Protect the corporations, and make the little guys pay, and pay, and keep paying.


posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 07:14 AM
We virtually have no privacy left as citizens. As soon as we step out of our doors we are observed, tracked, asked to present ID and scrutinised.
I have worked in the private security industry for many years where hi-tech systems have been used to control access, identify and monitor employees. That's fine and unfortunately necessary to protect corporate information and intellectual property. However, it is NOT acceptable for our own governments to treat us all as suspects and they have absolutely no right to do so.
The reasons they always give for increased monitoring, such as national security, just don't hold water and are entirely unworkable in practice.

There's an old saying in the security industry... "who watches the watchers"

I think that applies to our own governments and it's agencies and representatives more and more. They teflon coat their own sloping shoulders and become untouchable and blameless whilst we the people are put under increasing control and scrutiny.

It's not enough to vote them out at the next election as the party likely to replace them will do exactly the same. That's where our modern democracy fails with usually only two main parties to choose from, each in the pocket of the big movers and shakers of the corporate world.
There is also the fact that there are a lot of people in behind the scene civil service roles who remain no matter what party is currently in government.
It is these people, appointees rather than elected officials, that hold so much power and can formulate and direct policy. The Government is merely the mouthpiece.

I'm ranting now, too much coffee

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 09:37 AM
ah yes big brother is watching. just keep in mind that the excuse of looking for stolen cars and unpaid fines may only be the beginning. we actualy have police cars in toronto equiped with the same type of equipement and have for a few years now to look for stollen cars. several years back we even had photo radar don't bother to stop a person dangerously exceeding the speed limit just snap a pic and mail a ticket. in england they have lots of police controlled cameras to keep an eye on you.
next they will think that this systom can be used to keep tabs on those they deam dangerous or even suspicas. from what we hear up here the us is systomaticaly canceling privacy all in the name of "protecting" you. welcome to the fallout from 9-11.
remember the movie (i wish i could remember the name), where you got a ticket for swearing? as comical as it seems this is where things could end up . it dosn't help that there are secret societies who believe that by takeing away free choice they will make everone happy and the world a better place. what better way to make sure of compliance than cameras and mikes everywhere to keep tabs on everyone, all for our own good. and the way to do it is too start out with small things like tracking down unpaid fines and such, then move into keeping tabs on say bad drivers after all who will mind a little protection for those not guilty. then all of a sudden one day it hits you that you are continuasly being watched for any indication of free thought and action. definately not something i want do you?

[edit on 15-3-2005 by drogo]

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 10:13 AM

Originally posted by aymbt
Welcome to Nazi-USA.

Preposterous. These people were given mutlipel warnings, up to FIVE WARNINGS before their vehicles were taken away. How is this a 'nazi' tactic? If anything the people skipping out on their debts are nazis, since hitler was a debt welcher.

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 10:55 AM

If you don't want your car taken, then pay your taxes !!

I like the idea.. maybe because I work in finance and am a collector.... but I don't look at it as losing freedoms... I think it's a great idea.. I hope all 50 states go to it..

Hooray, get the deadbeats that don't pay thier taxes / bills....

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 11:57 AM
"They have not paid their taxes! DESTROY THEM!"

I guess it's not so bad. I think it was old Russia if you didn't pay your taxes you'd be drawn and quartered.

But there should be ways to help these people. Send someone out to talk with them at least and find out the circumstances. In the U.S. it's very difficult to hold a job without personal transportation. There are only a few big cities with decent public transportation. And everything is spread out. So taking away their car may be taking the way they feed their infant child. Yes, Woohoo! Destroy them all!

I guess if you can't get that feeling of power first hand grab some scraps from those that do.


Plausible Senario: Take away their car. They lose their job and go on welfare. Now they are living off your money. Muhahahah! I love karma.

[edit on 3-15-2005 by ShadowHasNoSource]

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 12:38 PM

it makes no sense that they would waste money on these , to take away more "privacy' of the citizens with these dual use monitor systems....

people have to pay their car taxes... there is no getting around it (if there is, please u2u me). If they don't pay now, they pay later w/fines...
they can't drive the car very long without getting pulled over eventually.
they can't sell the car with out of date tags...
as it is... no one avoids paying car taxes, so why do they even bother spending money on something that can have far more menacing uses, under the pretense that they will make one extra cent off the taxes...
the only one who makes more cash with this new system is the towing company... and they get plenty of business as is...

all at the expense of normal working people who forget to pay the car tag on a timely basis...
if they wait... they pay more... so what is the problem? it hurts no one to let it go, and can hurt many by using the new system of "search and tow"

now if they proposed people had to have car insurance, or get a car towed, i would be for it... not having timely insurance CAN hurt someone...

posted on Mar, 15 2005 @ 01:01 PM

Originally posted by Nygdan
Preposterous. These people were given mutlipel warnings, up to FIVE WARNINGS before their vehicles were taken away. How is this a 'nazi' tactic? If anything the people skipping out on their debts are nazis, since hitler was a debt welcher.

Its The WHOLE IDEA that they can scan everyone's plates anytime anywhere for anything ...get it threw your head..... still creeps me out to know that people can go around and scan entire parking lots or streets and even if it is not used for taxes imagine if you were at a protest or a private club or whatever.

Do you want someone with that technology profiling yhou just for where your car is parked?

What if Nygdan was at the protest against the war in Iraq, The police come to do their thing and decide to scan everyone's plate to find out who was there for questioning later?

What if Nygdan was shopping at Joe Bob's House of Pancakes or anywhere and that company decides that when you enter their parking lot to scan your plate "just to send you a flyer", set up a shopping profile of you, or whatever they feel like doing with that information?

Is that enough intrusion? It is not just about the taxes.
What happens to MY right to privacy?
You need to look at the big picture.

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