Coronavirus tests tainted with.. ya guessed it, coronavirus

a reply to: Majic

Thats for sure..

Im not even sure most testing is relevant at this point anyway, beyond perhaps making stats look more palatable (i.e. to manipulate fear levels to trend downwards) or as an impetus for draconian measures.

I think the stats as they are, are about as informative as we need in the moment (putting manipulation aside). We essentially have the numbers for those that require advanced treatment/care. That has direct relevance to medical apparatus response, but beyond that.. It seems many (if not most) get it, get over it, and move on.

If the numbers for hospitalization stats hadnt been manipulated to imply that they applied to the whole population, we probably wouldnt be in this position to begin with though. So, it could be argued that its "necessary" to talk some folks down too. I just dont like the little things that get tacked on.. like test or vaccination certificates.

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Gothmog

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)

originally posted by: Gothmog
And the pieces of the puzzle continue to be placed.
CDC - we "accidentally" tainted the COVID-19 tests with COVID-19....

It really seems that way. Clearly, some people WANT this to drag on. I am concerned about an intentional "Second wave". One that's WAY worse than the first, then the people causing all the panic can say "I told you so!".

a reply to: Gothmog

Exactly!

Supposedly the newer tests are specifically for "covid19."

However, if they test for coronavirus genetic material.. Thats a much broader net. And, its implied that those test results will determine who can leave their homes, work, etc.

I dont really trust, or like, any part of that situation and with how muddled all those distinctions have become.. Lets just say I have my doubts.

a reply to: Wookiep

Self-congratulatory pats on the back have become rampant, and we can see people frothing at the mouth (sometimes literally..) to say "I told you so!"

Strange situation we find ourselves in, to say the least.

The total population lockdowns may even ensure another wave. Kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, with cycles of lockdowns and fear that never allow for the natural defenses to build up in the population.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Gothmog

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)

No such thing as a virus...its all a lie....this is a Pleomorphic Bacteria all of us carry in differing volumes at one time or another in our lives which we get from our food chain and it is naturally occurring what is not natural is to not know about it and to not regularly police or kill it as basic hygene.Its extremely easy to kill.

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Gothmog

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)

No such thing as a virus...its all a lie....this is a Pleomorphic Bacteria all of us carry in differing volumes at one time or another in our lives which we get from our food chain and it is naturally occurring what is not natural is to not know about it and to not regularly police or kill it as basic hygene.Its extremely easy to kill.

Wait what? Are you postulating that there is no such thing as a virus, or that sar-cor-2 is really just a pleomorphic bacteria?

The Virus is definitely a real thing...

a reply to: Serdgiam

Thank you for carrying on the conversation in my absence, because everything you're stating is for the most part what I would be saying.

originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Gothmog

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)

No such thing as a virus...its all a lie....this is a Pleomorphic Bacteria all of us carry in differing volumes at one time or another in our lives which we get from our food chain and it is naturally occurring what is not natural is to not know about it and to not regularly police or kill it as basic hygene.Its extremely easy to kill.

Wait what? Are you postulating that there is no such thing as a virus, or that sar-cor-2 is really just a pleomorphic bacteria?

The Virus is definitely a real thing...

No it is not....a real thing as some would have you believe...its real but really different than you have been taught ...there is only viral contaminates (something that is deposited where it does not belong)and viral reactions(the bodies defense of encapsulating the contaminate) and viral size denominations(the generic size of material in relation to its environment)......there is no such thing as a living virus......a virus is a size designation for pieces of dead material found inside the body in specific areas....little "capsules" of garbage the body has formed a defensive coating around.....and then there is a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is ALIVE and can morph into the size and exist in the places where we find the wee little dead pieces of ecapsulated contaminate....and exactly like an encapsulated piece of viral sized contaminate this LIVING BACTERIA has its own lipid fat coating.....it is a Chameleon....and it mingles in places like the bloodstream with dead things that look identical to it......as we can now easily surmise....a living thing has business to do and re-creates its environment by making immediate and escalating impacts and changes to it as we do to the Earth when our Population grows...so this is what is polluting the bloodstream …..a living thing that is existing where our current research and science says it cannot be....hence the science is wrong.....you decide why I can show you how and where.

You cannot catch a virus from another person it is impossible a virus is a small bit of dead material...you can catch a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is living in a viral sized and transmitted form shape and mass.Savvy?

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: SRPrime

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Serdgiam
a reply to: Gothmog

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)

No such thing as a virus...its all a lie....this is a Pleomorphic Bacteria all of us carry in differing volumes at one time or another in our lives which we get from our food chain and it is naturally occurring what is not natural is to not know about it and to not regularly police or kill it as basic hygene.Its extremely easy to kill.

Wait what? Are you postulating that there is no such thing as a virus, or that sar-cor-2 is really just a pleomorphic bacteria?

The Virus is definitely a real thing...

No it is not....a real thing as some would have you believe...its real but really different than you have been taught ...there is only viral contaminates (something that is deposited where it does not belong)and viral reactions(the bodies defense of encapsulating the contaminate) and viral size denominations(the generic size of material in relation to its environment)......there is no such thing as a living virus......a virus is a size designation for pieces of dead material found inside the body in specific areas....little "capsules" of garbage the body has formed a defensive coating around.....and then there is a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is ALIVE and can morph into the size and exist in the places where we find the wee little dead pieces of ecapsulated contaminate....and exactly like an encapsulated piece of viral sized contaminate this LIVING BACTERIA has its own lipid fat coating.....it is a Chameleon....and it mingles in places like the bloodstream with dead things that look identical to it......as we can now easily surmise....a living thing has business to do and re-creates its environment by making immediate and escalating impacts and changes to it as we do to the Earth when our Population grows...so this is what is polluting the bloodstream …..a living thing that is existing where our current research and science says it cannot be....hence the science is wrong.....you decide why I can show you how and where.

You cannot catch a virus from another person it is impossible a virus is a small bit of dead material...you can catch a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is living in a viral sized and transmitted form shape and mass.Savvy?

Do you have any source material for any of this? I've been searchig what you've been posting on all the threads and have yet to find anything scientific that backs up your claims. Is it your own theory? And is there any evidence.

a reply to: dogstar23

It's seems to be his theory, I can't confirm or refute it.

He is an outside of the box thinker, and is actually quite intelligent, I find his NHS fascinating..

But yeah it's his theory. Like I said I'm not being dismissive or supportive of his idea. Just answering your question.

Respectfully,
~meathead

Youre missing what Im saying here..

Coronaviruses and "covid19" are a bit like squares and rectangles.

Folks should probably look into just what might be tested for with some of these kits. Coronaviruses are a family of viruses. Similar to how someone who dies "with" coronavirus (or covid19 for that matter) might be quite a different thing that someone who dies from it.

It all seems to be a distinction without a difference now though, so..

¯_(ツ)_/¯
Got it.
A family of viruses that most of us carry around all our lives and don't know it (well , I do)



No such thing as a virus...its all a lie....this is a Pleomorphic Bacteria all of us carry in differing volumes at one time or another in our lives which we get from our food chain and it is naturally occurring what is not natural is to not know about it and to not regularly police or kill it as basic hygene.Its extremely easy to kill.



Wait what? Are you postulating that there is no such thing as a virus, or that sar-cor-2 is really just a pleomorphic bacteria?

The Virus is definitely a real thing...
No it is not....a real thing as some would have you believe...its real but really different than you have been taught ...there is only viral contaminates (something that is deposited where it does not belong)and viral reactions(the bodies defense of encapsulating the contaminate) and viral size denominations(the generic size of material in relation to its environment)......there is no such thing as a living virus......a virus is a size designation for pieces of dead material found inside the body in specific areas....little "capsules" of garbage the body has formed a defensive coating around.....and then there is a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is ALIVE and can morph into the size and exist in the places where we find the wee little dead pieces of ecapsulated contaminate....and exactly like an encapsulated piece of viral sized contaminate this LIVING BACTERIA has its own lipid fat coating.....it is a Chameleon....and it mingles in places like the bloodstream with dead things that look identical to it......as we can now easily surmise....a living thing has business to do and re-creates its environment by making immediate and escalating impacts and changes to it as we do to the Earth when our Population grows...so this is what is polluting the bloodstream …..a living thing that is existing where our current research and science says it cannot be....hence the science is wrong.....you decide why I can show you how and where.
You cannot catch a virus from another person it is impossible a virus is a small bit of dead material...you can catch a Pleomorphic Bacteria that is living in a viral sized and transmitted form shape and mass.Savvy?


Do you have any source material for any of this? I've been searchig what you've been posting on all the threads and have yet to find anything scientific that backs up your claims. Is it your own theory? And is there any evidence.

Not to ignore your questions but...what exactly has peer approved science or medical research given us so far with regards to Covid-19?...they all think based on traditional conventional methodologies .....sometime we must leave our own comfort zone and take risks that make us uncomfortable intellectually to forge new ground to break new Trails.

What you would like Is an informal adhoc popcorn trail of linked articles which will flesh out the postulation so that you may double check it for facts that fit your personal parameters of being solid ....lol...that's hilarious...especially on ATS.....I am discussing data that I often refer to as suppressed bastardised or misdirected.....please keep this in mind....there is something called a Truth Feedback Loop that I will explain to you if you ask and its how we need to begin backtracking all of the misdirected bastardise data that has been jammed down our throats since birth...in short the truth is always the path of least resistance its a natural law and a lie takes more energy to manifest and manage than the truth so it is the path of most resistance.These Universal Laws cannot be altered nor changed.

Everything I say has been quite thoroughly researched online using public domain data.Nothing I say is new or novel,its all been discovered before then suppressed,which is why its so easy to parse back together into accurate and full truths.

In the past I have found that disinfomation specialists love to research new and novel ideas ASAP for it allows them time and space to throw up roadblocks an suppressions,I have had multiple links from multiple sources deleted within 24 hours of posting the links as resources,so I shall not provide any links for those direct reasons.I choose to not help the disinformation specialists.

I don't do links but I took the initiative to call an Open-Minded ER Doctor in America who was seeking new ideas....he was respectful and thankfull and eager to discuss the hypothesis with his colleagues in a Conference call. Times have changed,even online,one can go directly to the source now.

These are the days during which the masses are learning how damaging and regressive and poisoned MSM has been for so many Generations now,how poisoned our Education System and Academia has become,yes man the Doctor listened to me and was flabbergasted when it "clicked" in his head...Medical professionals have been hoodwinked or told 1/2 truths poisoned with lies consistently,but their rational thinking outside of their Work parameters is quite sharp and well conditioned. This Doctor was desperate and he was not only willing to think outside the Box he was willing to Jump right out of it if it could give his some answers,which I in fact did,by the end of our conversation he was beginning to jump ahead of me and use terminologies and make quick connections that I didn't understand which is exactly how it is supposed to work.

And he told 2 friends and he told 2 Friends and he told 2 Friends then they had an online conference and told everyone.There are no links that can be unlinked.but,ideas can be viral in size and markedly larger in impacts if placed in the correct places,right?

Of course I am not a Scientist or a Medical Researcher....if I were I wouldn't exactly have any "novel" ideas would I?..liberal Star Trek reference ---"Jim---I am a Carpenter not a Doctor!!".

@Dogstar....you have the Theory now, go find the evidence as per your own parameters,there is only one single truth so I already know where to find you if you do your homework properly.I suggest you begin with the late respected Hulda Clarks work.If you are an NHL Hockey fan or a Sports fan there is an easy way to show you how to reverse-extrapolate and LieBust on your own.Have a nice Day.

originally posted by: AutomateThis1
It just makes it really hard for me to actually believe the people in charge are actually capable of handling this.

This goes beyond party affiliation. I don't think the GOP, DNC, or any of them are capable. I don't think the CDC, the WHO, or any of those in the scientific circle are capable of handling this.

They say one thing and then the next minute their saying it's someone else's fault.

They're not even admitting they're wrong. Just shifting the blame around.

It's gotten so bad, and politics has been infested with people so stupid (and no smart person would really want to be involved with That mess... until they realize what's gonna happen if they stand by and do nothing) that the admission of a mistake is seized upon as evidence that you can't do the job and suddenly your job is at risk. These people aren't even acting like human beings anymore. They're possessed with some kind of sickness...