Originally posted by ANOK
[sarc]But of course the world doesn't exist past America's borders right?[/sarc]

I think once this point has been established in the general American populous, suddenly the world will become a much smaller space, and people will actually care what happens to others...

In order for the American populous to open their eyes, the entire American education and media system needs to be destroyed and a new one put in place...

For all you Americans out there, don't you think its strange you only learn of "your" countries history, and no one elses?

as posted by ghostsoldier
For all you Americans out there, don't you think its strange you only learn of "your" countries history, and no one elses?

Huh?
What turnip truck did that essay fall off that you read that 'propaganda' assertion quoted above from, ghostsoldier?

Even Che' Guevera wouldn't even assert such a lucid assertion.

As with any country, national history is taught foremost and with emphasis, BUT world history is taught, as well.

Then you jump to the college level, and as a history major myself, your assertion losses all validity. Latin American, European, Russian, Middle Eastern, etc., along with American history.

*shakes head*





seekerof

[edit on 27-3-2005 by Seekerof]

I may be mistaken, but as for Primary and Highschool students learning about World History I think you'd find that the level of National-History learnt vastly out-numbers the World-History taught, I think also think that if you were to compare the NH vs. WH of all the developed countries you'd find that the American ratio is quite the bit different from the rest of the worlds...

American ratio - 10:1
The rest of the world - 1:1

NOTE:
All of the above information is merely based on an opinion, but the point I was trying to make was that; The American populous, more so than anyone else, is brought up in a system that untilises what could be defined as "brain-washing" to create ignorantly patriotic people who collectively support what ever the government suggests...

I don't think it's so much Americans don't learn World history.
It's that American media very rarely covers World news unless it directly effects Americans.
And most Americans don't seem to care what happens to the rest of the World as long as they are still number one.

Originally posted by ghostsoldier
American ratio - 10:1
The rest of the world - 1:1

NOTE:
All of the above information is merely based on an opinion, but the point I was trying to make was that; The American populous, more so than anyone else, is brought up in a system that untilises what could be defined as "brain-washing" to create ignorantly patriotic people who collectively support what ever the government suggests...

I understand this is merely your opinion, but could you fill us in on where you obtained the information to base it on?

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[edit on 3/27/2005 by Montana]

An interesting read, the interpretations are a little out there on some things, though.

It was interesting that the author thought parent participation in the classroom was a bad thing. Supposedly to ensure the children were brainwashed correctly?

Interesting, but i'm not sure how much I credit this source. Do you have any others, preferably one that supports your statement that the other countries of the world spend as much time teaching the history of other nations as they do their own?

I haven't read this whole pissing contest here, If I repeat something, excuse the Echo.

Abu Ghraib
Mosul
Guantanamo Bay
You know the story, so deny ignorance.


Hiroshima
Nagasaki
200,000 dead civilians

Kent State, May 4, 1970 4 dead, 1 paralyzed 8 wounded, all innocent civilians.
Waco Texas April 19, 1993 56 innocent men women and children murdered in cold blood.
Panama Invasion 1989, 13 dead civilians for every US fatality

Falluja April 2004, 600 Civilian Non-Combatants killed, 95% of population now homeless living in tent cities. How many of you have seen the "independent media" photos of men and women murdered in there beds in from that? I have seen over 260 images of such things.

17,000 to 19,000+ est. dead Iragi civilians to date in the past 3 years.

Any of it sinking in yet?

American troops kill civilians, to deny such a thing is being an complete idiot, and embraces ignorance to the point of disgust.

I quote a particular Navy Pilot I know who said this just days before the Iraq war "I don't care. Kill them all. We Should Bomb Every Last Man Woman and Child in Iraq into a glass parking lot."

Thats the mentality of the so called "brave"?

Thats just one guy of 40 million troops with that crap attitude, and he's flying with how many millions of dollars of equipment and how many tons of bombs?

How many more scumbags like that hide behind a uniform?

How many more sadistic perverts are among the ranks wetting their pants when they are called hero's because nobody knows just what kind of sick things they've done.

This whole "dont' say anything bad about the armed forces", crap, is just that, crap.
They are a force made of humans, with flaws and mental problems, people who come from broken homes, and disturbed backgrounds, that get thrown in prison, they have chemical dependancies, they have divorces, they beat on and kill other Americans, any given day.

They are not gods, they are not angels, they are not sacred.

Not every thing they do is "the right thing".

Try to keep that in perspective.