"Can Hollywood Survive Caronavirus?" cnbc asks.

OMG the best possible outcome!

Hollywood as an institution destroyed.

It has become an inbred cesspool of self-centered idiots who think they are smarter than everyone else and must tell everyone how to vote, and how to think and what to think

Yes, if the Governors keep up the lockdown for months longer, and engage in "rolling lockdowns" at the whim of Governors, it will ruin Hollywood. They won't be able to make any new shows.

For entertainment, the US will morph into indie films and shows made in people's homes and in areas that are not locked down and people under house arrest and martial law light, for their own good of course.

Because right now 0.1% of the population has gotten the virus and less than 0.01% have been hospitalized and less than 0.001% of the US population has died and that is totally unacceptable and must be continued with the unknown dates of rolling lockdowns and no one allowed to interact with anyone outside their household by law for the next year and a half to two years, to save the nation. (of course the food chain and supply chain will be destroyed by then, as well as Hollywood, but who cares, certainly not the state Governors) We need unemployed Doctors and Nurses by the droves as we have now due to a lack of patients outside of major cities, don't we? www.usatoday.com... Who the heck needs Hollywood, we don't really do we?

Thank God our Governors are keeping us locked in and will keep us safe for 2 years until a vaccine is ready as they are proposing with rolling lockdowns or as Cuomo is proposing a lockdown until the vaccine is out. Who needs farmers to be able to get food to market for nearly 2 years total? Who needs manufacturing it can easily halt altogether for nearly 2 years total, who needs to buy anything not made overseas, if it can get here? All completely very American and very constitutional because government knows best and more than we little peons.

The little people just can't be trusted to engage in hygiene and wear masks if we want to keep ourselves safe, we just are not to be trusted because we are too ignorant and must obey our government masters.

Anyway - Hollywood's destruction - a net gain
we get rid of condescending spoiled rich brats who are always trying to tell us how to live our peon/surf lives while living in huge mansions with bowling alleys/pools/gyms/etc. Good riddance I say.

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: Drucifer

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: one4all

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: one4all
a reply to: ColoradoJens

Lol....the World now Knows...full stop.....its over.

It is? That's fairly pessimistic as a world view.

There are some amazing shows on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime etc.

Ozark season 3 was top notch. I think you'd enjoy it.

Tik-Tok..Tic-Tok….says the Big Clock.

Yes there are still some Anti-Humanitarian weaponised pieces of MSM out there and some are still actively being made...but these are what we call DEATH THROES.

You are working on the premise that evil is natural and nature supports its existance...THAT EVEN IN MINISCULE AMOUNTS THE POISON WILL ALWAY BE AROUND .....but....LMAO...the rest of the Planet does not SEE IT THIS WAY....THEY SEE IT AS AN ANOMOLY AS AN UN-NATURAL STATE OF BEING AND THE WORLD HAS CHOSEN TO REMEDIATE THIS UN-NATURAL STATE OF BEING......bad turn of events for you IMHO.

Spin-Doctor that....lol.

Look, points aside just a friendly word of advice. Stop the Caps. It makes you look unstable.

The caps are only 1/4 of what make him look unstable.

Last scene of Season 3 of Ozark....Gaddammmnnn that dropped my jaw. Easily my favorite show since Breaking Bad/Lost.

Oh hell yes! That show grew on me and by the end of the last season I was kinda pissed it was over.

Amazing writing and acting.

Absolutely. It’s also funny to me how Bateman’s general character has fit so many roles without totally revamping it and it still turns out great. He’s like the opposite of someone like Jonny Depp (who for a while, was amazing at what he did up until the Wonka flick) but can still fill a lot of shoes.

For the most part I watch music related stuff on YouTube, mostly related to recording/production or anything with guitar gear in it, but the actual shows I watch are slim. Currently it’s been Westworld, Better Call Saul and #t’s Creek with the wife, but everything was on pause for Ozark.

Movies have really turned to rubbish in the last 10-20 years. The Irishman may have been the last good one I saw. While I normally love all of Tarantino’s stuff, the last one did nothing for me. Unfortunately, I think the bigger studios are going to churn out nothing but crap to give the masses to recoup everything they’re losing now, once this settles down. Thankfully, it’s getting cheaper to make movies with camera prices dropping and programs like Final Cut Pro being able to handle high quality editing, so hopefully we see some more independent stuff flooding the market....but not in the normal “I’m making an indie movie that only I’ll like to watch because I wrote it” way a majority of indie movies are.

I tend to think that Hollywood has a stake in the coronavirus pandemic. They may not appear to weather the storm, but the government isn’t going to get rid of one of its main sources of propaganda.

a reply to: Tundra

Honestly?

I could care less about Hollywood and celebrities in general.

*shrugs*

If they survive?

Okay.

If they don't?

Okay. People will always be making movies and shows.

I think the movie business is in big trouble.

Theaters were already dying slowly, add on virus fears and their death will be sped up.

But I think the real reason is people's attention spans have shortened, and most don't even want to set through 2 hours anymore.

TV on the other hand is in no danger of disappearing.

originally posted by: proximo
I think the movie business is in big trouble.

Theaters were already dying slowly...

Not accurate. Prior to the shutdown two of our largest customers, Regal and Cinemark, had aggressive 2020-21 build schedules. This also doesn't factor in some regional brands which were also expanding.

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: HalWesten
That's part of the problem, influence shouldn't come from people playing other characters. It should come from people doing and teaching right from wrong, good vs evil, and those who know how to cook properly. Hollywood can crash and burn as far as I'm concerned, most of them and their movies are trash, filled with violence they then speak out against in public, they're mostly just a bunch of pretty hypocrites.

And if emphasis is needed, there are text tools to use here. All CAPS is bad... very bad...

Storytelling is as old as we are. It is important as it is part of who we are.

We do it in a way here on ATS.

Almost all of the stories, movies, plays, songs we know are the same plot or chord structures. We are locked on crap because anyone can make a movie now, but it has swung back to some great stuff in the last few years.

Story-telling is fine, when they started putting their political beliefs in the movies it became irrelevant. I wouldn't miss 99% of "celebrities" if they ended up having to work at 7-11.

Or another way to look at it, when they glorify violence and sexual immorality on-screen, then speak against it in public that destroys their credibility and they need to stop one or the other.

Hollywood is just a term morons like to use to rag on an industry. Actually with streaming, theater distribution is an after thought. Filmmaking is a table top enterprise now with digital gear. People are shooting features with their phones.

My Unions SAG and IATSE are green lighited to start on productions as soon as possible. The money is there and that's the determining factor.

The production houses are screaming for content. Netflix, Hulu, NBC advantage, are growing and buying even junk scripts.
Actually I'm in the studio now working with a bunch of writers on a series that will blow your sox off.

As long as my residual checks keep coming form Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul and a few movies, I'm good!!

It's a big world out there and films give the folks a bit of escape from their banal, uninteresting lives. We're here to stay and we can supply you with any fantasy you want.

We're the Dream Factory....

originally posted by: olaru12

The production houses are screaming for content. Netflix, Hulu, NBC advantage, are growing and buying even junk scripts.
Actually I'm in the studio now working with a bunch of writers on a series that will blow your sox off.

As long as my residual checks keep coming form Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul and a few movies, I'm good!!

It's a big world out there and films give the folks a bit of escape from their banal, uninteresting lives. We're here to stay.

But are you social distancing?

I've never watched those shows beyond one episode. That's all I needed to know they're mindless drivel.

a reply to: Thecakeisalie

I have been wondering as well how the movie industry will morph due to all of this. Maybe no more big budget stuff for I Max ? The theater industry could and probably should crumble. So what will they do? They will go the way of Netflix and produce a bunch more low budget stuff for immediate release to the home bound market.

But you say that the gaming industry will also suffer. I don't understand that. If you say these games can be produced on a low budget and people play them from home rather than daring to go out among the virus fears, wouldn't there be more profit for that industry?

I play some games and I have been a theater goer. But isn't it all dross? All stuff to keep us placated and humming to ourselves while Nero steals us blind?

originally posted by: HalWesten
Story-telling is fine, when they started putting their political beliefs in the movies it became irrelevant.

Political beliefs in film is as old as film.

I sometimes work for a producer director from Florida that loves to shoot in the Land of Enchantment. Even with this Bat flu BS he is cranking out template slasher films with plenty of T&A, destined for the Philippines and Asia. He can finance his projects and get a cool million bucks with a phone call. There are more markets than ever. People are even watching movies and TV on their phones, tablets, laptops and PC. And now with people staying home They watch TV on their enormous flat screens... Visual media is bigger than you can even imagine, it's in your face everywhere. I was filling my gas tank and there was a TV screen on the Pump, screening ads. Anyone that wants to work in the biz can find a job in Albuquerque, Atlanta, Vancouver, New Orleans, Detroit, Boston, LA, London, Vegas, everywhere. But you need some kind of training to make union scale. Hollywood is just where the money get divided for productions all over the world and the capital of sfx, but thats changing as well.

Thank God I have reached the point in my career that I only accept projects that appeal to me aesthetically. I love this industry and would work in this field even if I didn't get paid. It's that much fun, with a tight networking community and a growing market for even junk.

If you are dissatisfied with the state of the movie industry, be the change you want and make your own films. I work for film makers that bought all their equipment at Cosco and make feature films with gear that fits in the trunk of a Honda.

Start here if you have a story to tell it's where the indy world lives....

www.celtx.com...

a reply to: olaru12

I doubt the direct to video market will die.
Big Hollywood budget movies are going to take a hit..

And not everyone is going to quit their careers to play movie maker.
Still not going to stop me from criticizing their garbage movies though.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: olaru12

I doubt the direct to video market will die.
Big Hollywood budget movies are going to take a hit..

And not everyone is going to quit their careers to play movie maker.
Still not going to stop me from criticizing their garbage movies though.

That's fine. I would like to read your critiques. There is always room for improvement in any industry.

It's great living in a country where if you don't like what you are watching, change the channel and don't go to the theater if you had rather be doing something else.

I don't even mind the insulting posts here on ATS about the biz. Everyone is free to express their opinion and like aZZholes, everybody has one. Oh no...I feel like writing in all caps....ENJOY YOUR TV CAUSE ITS HERE TO STAY, OR THROW IT OUT IN THE YARD IF IT PISSES YOU OFF.

My GF never turns the TV off and it drives me nuts. I seldom even watch the projects I work on...

a reply to: olaru12

Well I think anyone that doesn't want to hear criticism is a fool.
At least when they are selling a product.

There is a lot of good tv and cinema today but unfortunately there is a lot of bad.
The bad has even started taking over the classic's.

Oh well.. Money talks..
Still not sure how the Kardashian's show is a thing...

originally posted by: olaru12
Hollywood is just a term morons like to use to rag on an industry. Actually with streaming, theater distribution is an after thought. Filmmaking is a table top enterprise now with digital gear. People are shooting features with their phones.

My Unions SAG and IATSE are green lighited to start on productions as soon as possible. The money is there and that's the determining factor.

The production houses are screaming for content. Netflix, Hulu, NBC advantage, are growing and buying even junk scripts.
Actually I'm in the studio now working with a bunch of writers on a series that will blow your sox off.

I think greenlighting new productions in NYC won't happen for at least 18 months or until there is a vaccine if Cuomo does what he says he plans to do, wait for a vaccine.

CA too is being ultra cautious and unlikely to open up for new productions for months to come.

As long at NY and CA won't allow people within 6 feet of each other, or require a mask for anyone in contact with someone outside their household, it will be difficult to make movies or programs in those states.



I suppose if the industry moves to states without these restrictions then some productions can resume.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Oh well.. Money talks..
Still not sure how the Kardashian's show is a thing...

Exactly, and reality TV is a lock on making money. Cheap and easy to make and to quote HL Mencken...no one ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.

First one I ever worked on....absolutely the worst reality show ever made!!

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: HalWesten

originally posted by: ColoradoJens

originally posted by: HalWesten
That's part of the problem, influence shouldn't come from people playing other characters. It should come from people doing and teaching right from wrong, good vs evil, and those who know how to cook properly. Hollywood can crash and burn as far as I'm concerned, most of them and their movies are trash, filled with violence they then speak out against in public, they're mostly just a bunch of pretty hypocrites.

And if emphasis is needed, there are text tools to use here. All CAPS is bad... very bad...

Storytelling is as old as we are. It is important as it is part of who we are.

We do it in a way here on ATS.

Almost all of the stories, movies, plays, songs we know are the same plot or chord structures. We are locked on crap because anyone can make a movie now, but it has swung back to some great stuff in the last few years.

Story-telling is fine, when they started putting their political beliefs in the movies it became irrelevant. I wouldn't miss 99% of "celebrities" if they ended up having to work at 7-11.

Or another way to look at it, when they glorify violence and sexual immorality on-screen, then speak against it in public that destroys their credibility and they need to stop one or the other.

You have a point, I won't watch gratuitous violence and gratuitous use of the foulest language that hollywood can come up with. These are regular items in the majority of movies. Least you think I'm a prude, there is a time for foul language in very dangerous and awful situations, but movies these days use the word f$#k in nearly every sentence uttered.

My spouse won't watch gay sex. I don't want to see any blatant sex because it has been so over-shown on TV and in movies it has become downright boring. We know what is going to happen when two people get in bed together and wake up together. Showing it has become so blase and the lazy writers way of not having to write good dialog or a good story and I'm not into porn which is what much of TV and the movies has actually become. So I get bored with the tedious, story devoid constant sex and turn it off. My husband immediately turns of shows with gay sex and won't watch another episode, gay characters, fine, gay sex, he won't watch again. Call him a homophobe for not wanting to watch something that repulses him, that's your right. Call me a prude for being bored with sex as a replacement for storytelling and dialog, that's your right.

Yes, that leaves us not terribly much we will both watch. But we do manage. I know some of you will hate on us for turning off things that disgust, annoy, or frankly bore us, but that is our right too.

We spend our time volunteering when not under the current martial law light and under government imposed house arrest with the rest of America. We also, spend time with our families and now days getting online with family and friends and chatting. As well as my favorite, annoying people on ATS, ha ha.

I won't miss it a bit if traditional Hollywood goes under due to martial law light and house arrest of all citizens including the stars and starlets.

a reply to: The2Billies

My spouse won't watch gay sex. I don't want to see any blatant sex because it has been so over-shown on TV and in movies it has become boring. We know what is going to happen when two people get in bed together and wake up together. Showing it has become so blase and the lazy writers way of not having to write good dialog or a good story. So I get bored with the tedious, story devoid constant sex and turn it off. My husband immediately turns of shows with gay sex and won't watch another episode, gay characters, fine, gay sex, he won't watch again. Call him a homophobe for not wanting to watch something that repulses him, that's your right. Call me a prude for being board with sex as a replacement for storytelling and dialog, that's your right.

So it sounds like a majority of your dislike is due to sex scenes, straight and gay.

Im trying to think the last time I was in a theater and saw a gratuitous sex scene.

I know movies like "Revenge of the Nerds" "Porkys" "Stripes" had some raunch in the 80's...

I actually can't remember a gay love making scene in any movie Ive seen in a long time.

Why are you choosing to watch a lot of skin flicks, including gay sex movies if they are not your thing?

I refuse to see romcoms or victorian era period piece movies. I get the same reaction you do to sex scenes.

originally posted by: ColoradoJens
a reply to: The2Billies

My spouse won't watch gay sex. I don't want to see any blatant sex because it has been so over-shown on TV and in movies it has become boring. We know what is going to happen when two people get in bed together and wake up together. Showing it has become so blase and the lazy writers way of not having to write good dialog or a good story. So I get bored with the tedious, story devoid constant sex and turn it off. My husband immediately turns of shows with gay sex and won't watch another episode, gay characters, fine, gay sex, he won't watch again. Call him a homophobe for not wanting to watch something that repulses him, that's your right. Call me a prude for being board with sex as a replacement for storytelling and dialog, that's your right.

So it sounds like a majority of your dislike is due to sex scenes, straight and gay.
I actually can't remember a gay love making scene in any movie Ive seen in a long time.
Why are you choosing to watch a lot of skin flicks, including gay sex movies if they are not your thing?

Darlin, I'm talking about prime time TV and highly touted and advertised Netflix shows and Hulu shows, etc.

Ha ha, your idea of porn is different from mine, that is perfectly ok.

Open your eyes, blatant sex scenes are all over evening TV scripted shows. Netflix and other sources have tons of blatant sex scenes that are a replacement for storytelling and dialog.

I just think the writers these days are downright lazy and mistake a sex scene for good writing and frankly the scenes are so predictable and so identical to each other they are boring - to me at least, not offensive, just boring. Deep kiss, touch a naked breast/chest, kiss down to the pubic area, then hump; if you haven't seen this in the vast majority of Netflix and Hulu dramas you aren't paying attention to it, or maybe you like it and don't see it as boring porn. That's ok with me, everyone is entitled to their opinion, at least that is my stance.

You can love it all, that's ok with me. Not trying to stop anyone else. I just see porn light as lazy writing and devoid of story telling.

I object to the foulest language possible in nearly every sentence uttered, it is offensive to me. Not offensive to you, fine. Again I also see it as lazy, very very lazy writing.

I always told my Univ. students that the constant use of foul language indicates a mind devoid of a decent vocabulary or intellect. But that is what prime time is, isn't it? It is designed to appeal to those with tiny vocabularies and who can not comprehend good writing or dialog, so sad.

You see things the way you want to, that's fine. I'll express my opinion and see them the way I want to, and that should be ok with you, if it isn't, too bad.