Corona Virus Updates Part 6

A new study determines Covid viral particles can remain aerosolized and infectious for up to 16 hours, and more than both SARS and MERS.

Abstract

We aerosolized severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 and determined that its dynamic aerosol efficiency surpassed those of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus and Middle East respiratory syndrome. Although we performed experiment only once across several laboratories, our findings suggest retained infectivity and virion integrity for up to 16 hours in respirable-sized aerosols.

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), is a readily transmissible zoonotic pathogen and the etiologic agent of the coronavirus disease (COVID-19) pandemic (1). To determine aerosol stability of the virus, we measured the dynamic (short-term) aerosol efficiencies of SARS-CoV-2 and compared its efficiency with SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus (MERS-CoV).

Conclusions

The comparison of short-term aerosol efficiencies of 3 coronaviruses showed SARS-CoV-2 approximates or exceeds the efficiency estimates of SARS-CoV and MERS-CoV. Some efficiency determinations for SARS-CoV-2 ranged to −5.5log10 (Figure 1), a full log difference from MERS-CoV. The higher efficiencies across independent laboratories strengthens this observation. These data suggest that SARS-CoV-2 generally maintains infectivity at a respirable particle size over short distances, in contrast to either betacoronavirus. Aerosol suspension results suggest that SARS-CoV-2 persists longer than would be expected when generated as this size particle (2-µm mass median aerodynamic diameter). This finding is notable because decay and loss in the infectious fraction of airborne virus would be expected on the basis of prior susceptibility studies with other environmentally hardy viruses, such as monkeypox virus (5). A recent study (6) showing only a slight reduction of infectivity in aerosol suspensions with approximately similar particle sizes also suggested minimal effects on SARS-CoV-2 airborne degradation.

CDC: Persistence of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 in Aerosol Suspensions

originally posted by: tanstaafl
None of those interfere with the oxygen or CO2 levels in my blood.

Stupid much?

If my mask can contain co2, how can it not contain covid?

Be precise. Include sizes of particles for us.

originally posted by: peck420
If my mask can contain co2, how can it not contain covid?

It can concentrate both. It does not stop it.No one said otherwise.

originally posted by: tanstaafl
It can concentrate both. It does not stop it.No one said otherwise.

You have claimed many times masks don't work, now you are claiming they absolutely do.

If the masks contain CO2, they contain Covid hundreds of times better.

So, which is it?

Do masks work against Covid transmission?

Do masks concentrate CO2?

The answer to both will ALWAYS be the same.

originally posted by: peck420

originally posted by: tanstaafl
It can concentrate both. It does not stop it.No one said otherwise.

You have claimed many times masks don't work, now you are claiming they absolutely do.

No, I plainly just said 'it does not stop it'. Can you read?

If the masks contain CO2, they contain Covid hundreds of times better.

Nope. They concentrate them, they do not 'stop' them. Can you read?

He will never admit when he's wrong. It's pointless arguing with him, but you are 100% right. Obviously, if a mask blocks CO2, it would also block COVID. He will use words like "concentrate" which is the same as "accumulate" which is what happens on the surface of a filter when it's working.

Question. If a Single mother that has children comes down with Covid, and has nobody to help her if she must isolate, do the children go to CPS? Is there laws mandating she isolate in the first place?
If she refuses to self isolate, to take care of her children, does she get fined, and penalized?

More data that its created in a lab:

Anyone who has read the papers discussing the PRRA insert and the furin cleavage site not found in any other coronavirus should already be skeptical of natural evolution. This is especially true when the virus happens to appear next to a virology lab who just happens to be doing gain of function research on coronaviruses. The virus also binds tighter to human receptors than any other animal it effects which shouldn't be the case if the virus jumped from a host animal into humans. SARS-CoV-2 should bind tighter in whatever intermediate host spread the virus than in humans but if the virus was manipulated in a lab due to GoF research it would completely explain this aspect. As far as I am concerned a lab leak should be assumed and the burden of proof to prove it is natural is on those claiming it is natural. Not to mention there have been multiple recorded leaks of SARS from Chinese virology labs in the past. There is tons of circumstantial evidence pointing towards a lab leak and no virologist is able to make a solid argument about how it naturally evolved; all they say is that it originated in bats, jumped to an intermediate host and jumped to humans. Other than making that basic claim there is no actual proof to support it as no intermediate host has been identified.

Numbers Update for Europe, and Elsewhere :






BNO :




www.worldometers.info...
bnonews.com...

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: McGinty
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed

You can see that pattern in every nation that’s allowed the virus to get out of control;

What is hilarious is people like you who actually think there is anything we can do about it.

It is here. Now we just need to grit our teeth and see it through.

As someone else pointed out, all 'flattening the curve' does is stretch things out much more than they need to, and results in more deaths from the lockdowns than we'd have from the virus.

Just stfu and let it run its course.

You can catch it now, if you would like. But I prefer waiting out all the doctor's going through the "let's try this to see if it helps" phase of this infection. When we get to the stage where doctors know nearly everything they are going to get to know about it, and there are several tried and true methods of pulling severe patients through, THEN i won't be as reluctant as I am now to take unnecessary (and in my opinion, foolhardy) risks of catching this virus.

IMHO, this is akin to someone who doesn't have a lick of sense deciding to play with an unidentified snake. Yeah, it might not be venomous, and even if it is some people won't get bit. Of those that do get bit and it IS venomous, most people won't die, but will have a rough time of it regardless. I just prefer to not play with the snake until I KNOW what it is and know exactly what sort of risk I am taking, thank you very much.

originally posted by: doorhandle


Thanks MB2, the act of having to, by law, to wear a face covering when shopping is a huge shift for me to comprehend. I understand the necessity of course, scary/worrisome to think this is the new normal now for possibly years to come.

Heck, if all this just makes more people cognizant of the benefits of washing their hands more often, especially when they are on the way out of public rest rooms, that would be a HUGE benefit, IMHO. I wouldn't go into a Walmart restroom for love nor money right now.

originally posted by: carewemust
What does this tell you?

The World Health Organisation announced Monday that it will not be visiting the Wuhan Institute of Virology during its investigation into the origins of the coronavirus, despite the fact that the lab held samples of coronavirus that were almost exactly the same as that which caused a global pandemic.

More at: www.zerohedge.com...

It is telling me that the WHO has all their brushes packed for the whitewash party they are going to be having.

a reply to: Rich Z

But you have to realize that the majority of the people walk around with smeared fecal matter all around their nether regions. The supposedly most advanced country on Earth, never understood that medieval hygiene habits aid medieval diseases.

I am going to have a minor rant.
For those of you who don't know I am a Clinical Aromatherapist. I WILL NOT be doing any massage treatments now that I have been allowed back to work. Not while the coagulopathy is an issue. I am amazed and gobsmacked that so many massage therapists here in the UK are all excited about returning to work and booking people in for treatment. THEY ARE CRAZY!

Second, and as a heads up. A young Colourist (hair dresser specialising in hair colouring) has posted a video on Facebook (sorry, have no idea how to share it here) where yesterday she was seeing one of her long term clients who she hasn't seen since February. Normally in this industry a patch test is done if the time frame is over 6 months since last hair colouring. As the client was within this time frame and was getting exactly the same colour/product she has had for years, the patch test was not carried out. The client started getting an allergic reaction, not just on her scalp where it would normally happen, but all down her neck, onto her shoulders and chest. She started getting very hot and then cold. The Colourist had been trained if this happens and immediately washed all the colour off with cold water and gave her an antihistamine and called an ambulance. It transpires the client had Covid several times and had been hospitalised, but not in ICU. The Paramedics said she had taken exactly the right course of action and thankfully she had given her an antihistamine so promptly or it could have been a much worse outcome. The client is still in hospital and the Colourourist doesn't know her condition at time of her video.

We know this 'Thing' compromises our immune system (besides all the other plethora of things) our immune system is clearly reacting in very weird ways. As an Aromatherapist (besides not doing massages for the reason stated above) I am very well aware that given this reaction and many many people are/have been asymptomatic that I will now need to do patch tests far more frequently before using any oils with clients.
Funnily enough a blend that I came up with to help as a preventative and to help symptoms has also resulted in feed back that clients who would normally have hay fever have not had hay fever. Also that it has cleared up their anosmia that they have had as a result of having had it.

Bloody mine field!

Rainbows
Jane

a reply to: angelchemuel

The last herd of antelope have been forced to eat patchy brown grass for months because of a wondering lion pack passing through their savannah. The antelope yearn to graze on the long green grass in the next field, but the lions are dozing right next to it. The antelope had to watch the lions rip their comrades to shreds when they first arrived and know that the ferocious beasts are now lying in wait.

A small group of influential antelope, all marked out at birth by a blue tinge to their breasts, erect themselves a platform from the rotting bodies of the herd that have died of hunger. The group’s leader climbs aloft and, looking down his nose at the herd, announces that his lion-experts have expertly informed him that the lions have gone to sleep and so will not be able to eat the antelope anymore. The leader promises his captive audience that he’ll keep track of the lions from his lofty lookout and cry an alert if the slightest danger stirs. “My fellow Antelope!” He declares, “Just use your common sense and it’s perfectly safe to go and eat the long, luscious, delicious fresh green grass.”

The leader glances down at the dead antelope he’s stood upon and sniffles loudly enough for the antelope at the back to hear. With great poignancy he raises his eyes to meet the countless number staring back, hanging on his next utterance... “In honour of our fallen comrades we must conquer our fears and eat, eat... Eat! For the good of the herd.”

The herd are silent, dubious of one antelope’s word. They look to the two learned antelopes flanking the leader. Dr. Antelope and Professor Antelope both nod their approval...

One of the hungry antelope turns and cuts a rift along the centre of the herd as he trots towards the long green grass. The hundred or so other antelope stare at one another across this rift and then all at once stampede towards the green grass, chomping it down.

Their awareness of the lions diminishing with every bite, they don’t see the grass tops bending and dancing around them, as though a silent whirlwind were gently closing in. From his perch on the dead antelope the leader sees all, but says nothing...

Suddenly there’s a yelp from somewhere in the chomping throng, followed by an arc of arterial blood high in the air that rains down upon the shocked herd. Panic ensues, but the fleeing antelope find they’ve been surrounded by the lions. The herd cry that it’s not fair, they were lied to, it’s not their fault as they themselves are chomped down until only a field of red carcasses remain.

At a safe distance from the carnage the small influential group of antelope munch happily without a care for their dying comrades. The grass isn’t quite as green, but now that the herd has thinned there’s more than enough. Their leader sputters through a mouth full of grass that he was a little surprised at how easy it was, but then again nothing is easier to fool than a hungry antelope. Dr. Antelope and Professor Antelope nod in agreement.

originally posted by: Rich Z
I prefer waiting out all the doctor's going through the "let's try this to see if it helps" phase of this infection. When we get to the stage where doctors know nearly everything they are going to get to know about it, and there are several tried and true methods of pulling severe patients through, THEN i won't be as reluctant as I am now to take unnecessary (and in my opinion, foolhardy) risks of catching this virus.

There is already enough info to protect yourself. If you have eyes to see.

If you get seriously ill, high dose IV vitamin C will take care of it. PERIOD.

Why is BNO showing zero new deaths for most countries?
For my country alone I know we still have daily corona deaths and since we are heading into our second wave, we have more new cases every day. Worldometers and BNO is not showing it correctly and haven't for at least 2-3 weeks.

NNumbers Update for Europe, and Elsewhere :






BNO :




Financial Times Update :





www.worldometers.info...
bnonews.com...
www.ft.com...

a reply to: KindraLaBelle

I think it's because they are on US time.
It's like 6am for us when it hits it's Max numbers.
Worldometers works on GMT +1/+2 so, European time.

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: Rich Z

But you have to realize that the majority of the people walk around with smeared fecal matter all around their nether regions. The supposedly most advanced country on Earth, never understood that medieval hygiene habits aid medieval diseases.

That is an image that I would much rather not subject my brain to.