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originally posted by: DanDanDat
And when there are 100,001 deaths will Trump take responsibility for spreading false information?
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: EnigmaChaser
IMO
The same type of people Who oversee the computer modeling of covid 19, also oversee the presidential polling processes.
Let that sink in.
originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: EnigmaChaser
IMO
The same type of people Who oversee the computer modeling of covid 19, also oversee the presidential polling processes.
Let that sink in.
originally posted by: gortex
originally posted by: DanDanDat
And when there are 100,001 deaths will Trump take responsibility for spreading false information?
Trump never takes responsibility for negatives they're always someone else's fault.
originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: EnigmaChaser
400k people die in the US every year to lead poisoning?
Ehhh It's just people dying. No big deal... right?
originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: EnigmaChaser
What point is that? That most people are downplaying this ordeal?
I don't know of anyone who died of the flu in years. So far, I know 2 people not all that 'far from home' that's died to this. Granted, these aren't people I know personally but it's fairly close to home.
Just remember... In a couple months, you need to come back to this post and admit you were wrong.
Look at the numbers... 1.7 million infected. 377k people made it out alive but no telling what they made it out with. 102k dead.
Guess what.. There are still 1.7 million people infected. A ungodly amount infected but unknown or unreported.
Read that again until it makes sense.
377k people survived with and without severe health complications.
102k dead
1.7 million still actively infected with unknown conditions.
I guess 1 out of 4 dead so far vs the ones that recovered to 'some' extent isn't so bad, is it?
20k people in ONE COUNTRY dead
16k dead in Spain
13k dead in France
9k dead in the UK
6 THOUSAND people dead in one city - New York CITY. Not New York STATE.
This is only over how long now? It's been a little over 2 and a half months and nearly 20k dead in the US alone. It started slow and it quickly started going up hill.
Don't nit pick the numbers. Cities are going to have a high dead ratio because of the amount of people in close proximity. That's 84% of the US population. Countries are already starting to have a second wave of infected. People who just got over it are getting it again... The flu doesn't do that... unless you get another strain, that is and that's not very often.
Playing this down is the same essence as those idiots who knew this was going on and decided to go spring breaking... They're scared now and they should be. I'd hate to kill someone in my family due to my own stupidity.
Go on... Play this down all you want. I wont tell you I told you so but I'm certain someone will.
originally posted by: StallionDuck
a reply to: EnigmaChaser
400k people die in the US every year to lead poisoning?
Ehhh It's just people dying. No big deal... right?
originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
Keep fear alive dude. Keep fear alive...
How can you hold to this when this can be scaled 10 ways from Easter Sunday, the data is coming in WAY WAY WAY below what was "predicted", countries in the EU are on the precipice of re-opening, and you're over here bagging on some "morons" who wanted to get his party on over spring break?
Please link me to articles that support the mass death of partying spring breakers.
originally posted by: Navieko
originally posted by: EnigmaChaser
Keep fear alive dude. Keep fear alive...
How can you hold to this when this can be scaled 10 ways from Easter Sunday, the data is coming in WAY WAY WAY below what was "predicted", countries in the EU are on the precipice of re-opening, and you're over here bagging on some "morons" who wanted to get his party on over spring break?
Please link me to articles that support the mass death of partying spring breakers.
You're comparing the current numbers with the worst case estimates made at the beginning which relied on everyone going about their normal day-to-day activities (essentially no lockdown measures). Yes the numbers are a lot lower, because people took the predictions seriously and reacted to them. That was kind of the point... But of course now the hardcore deniers will pretend the low numbers are nothing to do with the lockdown measures and it was all just a sham for no good reason! ~facepalm~
originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Navieko
The 150,000-240,000 "predicted" by the IHME model was WITH social distancing measures. It was 2,200,000 without. And now the CDC Director already admitted it was put out to scare people, so I don't have to pretend those numbers were ever legitimate. We went from 200,000 to 60,000 estimate (both with social distancing) in eight days. That's an Easter Miracle, I guess.
originally posted by: Navieko
a reply to: RadioRobert
What those estimates will not tell you, is how many lives were saved by implementing the lockdown measures. did they get the severity of the flu wrong, or simply underestimate the effectiveness of the lockdown measures? An estimate is simply an educated guess using the best available data... but when we're dealing with a fluid situation that we've never really experienced (in this day and age) before -- it seems sensible to err on the side of caution and go with the "better to be safe than sorry" option. Sorry but lives are more important than our ability to go on with our usual daily routines.
and they are still correct as of this moment -- IF -- nothing had been done to stop the spread
The White House presented sobering numbers on Tuesday that the best-case scenario with full mitigation measures in place is between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths in the United States. Those figures would exceed the U.S. death toll from the Vietnam War and Korean War combined.
originally posted by: RadioRobert
a reply to: Navieko
and they are still correct as of this moment -- IF -- nothing had been done to stop the spread
NO. The IHME models were "best case" WITH social distancing. None of the actions changed. Stop lying.
The White House presented sobering numbers on Tuesday that the best-case scenario with full mitigation measures in place is between 100,000 and 240,000 deaths in the United States. Those figures would exceed the U.S. death toll from the Vietnam War and Korean War combined.
Link
originally posted by: StallionDuck
Oh I guess it's true that it's no big deal until it kills your mother, your father, grandparents or your wife and kids...
amiright?