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CNN and others fear mongering Marijuana over Tobacco - Covid19

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posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 01:46 PM
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I know someone who smokes weed. When he had his lungs checked for capacity, they were found to have 151% capacity of normal size. He could stay under water almost twice as long as everyone else, going back and forth lengthwise under water in the pool. Sounds like it made his lungs bigger and better to me



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 01:50 PM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

It is probably unrelated to smoking, it could be all about genes, or simply because he trained his lung capacity.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 01:57 PM
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Hot, tarry smoke in your lungs isn't good no matter what it's delivering.

Long Bottom Leaf (finest in the South Farthing) is available in candy form now. All the joy, none of the smoke...



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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a reply to: game over man

Inhaling carcinogens is an issue, whether that be cigarettes, weed, or cloves



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: IgnorantGod
a reply to: rickymouse

I would argue that cannabis smoke is way harder for the throat than cigarette, my analysis based upon my everlasting cough if I dare to smoke a joint without tobacco, while I don't even cough if I mix the two.


I remember the days when cannabis was a big part of my life. It is harsh, it causes all sorts of respiratory problems. I cannot argue with the research I read because I experienced the problems it had.

I never used to smoke cigarettes back then, the cigarette smoke was so thick in the bars that you got all you needed for free.


I have been wanting to go to the local cannabis store to talk to the owner, I used to be in that business forty years ago. It sure is not worth what they are paying for it now.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:28 PM
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i dont use the first but i smoke cigarettes id say they are far worse effects then when i did do such things we should not speak about here



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:38 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
I know someone who smokes weed. When he had his lungs checked for capacity, they were found to have 151% capacity of normal size. He could stay under water almost twice as long as everyone else, going back and forth lengthwise under water in the pool. Sounds like it made his lungs bigger and better to me


Great logical assumption...what were his lungs measured before he started smoking, 300%?..lol

In any case both Cigs and pot have about 4000 chemicals and tar....many are the same. You breath in any kind of smoke it will not make you better. Though pot is smoked normally less then cigs people will hold it in their lungs longer and that lets tar build up easier, so in the end what is even the question here lol... To add... 15% of the population smokes cigs and 12% pot..how many of those numbers do both...lol So much of this is moot.



edit on 10-4-2020 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:43 PM
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Since being cooped up, I am indulging a bit more than normal, get the odd cough, and think..yikes!

In general, not surprising that smoking anything causes "some' damage.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 02:59 PM
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a reply to: game over man

My thought is that they are afraid that states where it is currently illegal will legalize recreational and tax it to recoup losses from the costs of Covid-19 when this mess is over. Honestly I think legalization would do a lot to refill state coffers being depleted right now and would be a logical step in recovery.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem
I know someone who smokes weed. When he had his lungs checked for capacity, they were found to have 151% capacity of normal size. He could stay under water almost twice as long as everyone else, going back and forth lengthwise under water in the pool. Sounds like it made his lungs bigger and better to me

I doubt it, but good! I can't think that smoking "anything" is a positive. Long term mj smoker here, so I'm not biased..just realistic.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
The most significant and dangerous side effect of marijuana: questioning what you're taught and using discernment.

Dangerous to whom???

A media that relies on you doing the exact opposite of that.



Is this all wrong, or total hype?


However, the harmful effects of smoking cannabis are widely known and have recently been highlighted.3,4 Although the active ingredients of the cannabis plant differ from those of the tobacco plant, each produces about 4000 chemicals when smoked and these are largely identical. Although cannabis cigarettes are smoked less frequently than nicotine cigarettes, their mode of inhalation is very different. Compared with smoking tobacco, smoking cannabis entails a two thirds larger puff volume, a one third larger inhaled volume, a fourfold longer time holding the breath, and a fivefold increase in concentrations of carboxyhaemoglobin.5 The products of combustion from cannabis are thus retained to a much higher degree. How is this likely to translate into adverse effects on health?

We already know that regular use of cannabis is associated with an increased incidence of mental illnesses, most notably schizophrenia and depression,4 but it is also worth examining its potential to cause other illnesses, especially those of the heart and respiratory system.

At present, there is an understandable dearth of epidemiological evidence of cardiopulmonary harm from cannabis, because its use is a relatively new phenomenon and its potency is changing. The amount of the main active constituent, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), in cannabis has increased from about 0.5% 20 years ago to nearer 5% at present in Britain, whereas “Nederweed” (the variety smoked in the Netherlands) has an average of 10-11% tetrahydrocannabinol. At the same time little study has been undertaken of any concomitant change in the content of tar. Case-control studies are difficult to perform since cannabis cigarettes do not come in standard sizes, which makes dose-response relations difficult to establish. Furthermore, most users of cannabis also smoke tobacco, which makes it difficult to dissect out individual risks. As with tobacco, there will be a latent period between the onset of smoking and the development of lung damage, cardiovascular disease, or malignant change.


US National Library of Meds


The information of the negative effects of smoking MJ are substantuated by many other researches. Eating it does not cause the same negative effects that causes these problems. I used to smoke it, and it is definitely hard on the lungs. I see the evidence and will not very that the side effects of cigarettes are better or worse. But notice in that article, many of the chemicals in tobacco are similar to in MJ. There are psychotropic chemicals in tobacco too, there are also some positive health benefits from smoking organic tobaccos too. But overall, if you smoke over three quarters of a pack a day cigarettes are bad for everyone. For some people any tobacco smoke is bad, especially commercial tobaccos.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe you have respiratory problems to begin with? Or were smoking dirt weed? Many professional athletes smoke tons of weed and their leagues now allow it. Tobacco is much more harmful to all parts of your body! Not just the lungs.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe you have respiratory problems to begin with? Or were smoking dirt weed? Many professional athletes smoke tons of weed and their leagues now allow it. Tobacco is much more harmful to all parts of your body! Not just the lungs.

Smoking anything, is going to have "some" effect, been smoking the best there is for 35 years.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:50 PM
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originally posted by: IgnorantGod
a reply to: visitedbythem

It is probably unrelated to smoking, it could be all about genes, or simply because he trained his lung capacity.


I hear marijuana smoke expands a lot. Maybe it expanded his lung capacity



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe you have respiratory problems to begin with? Or were smoking dirt weed? Many professional athletes smoke tons of weed and their leagues now allow it. Tobacco is much more harmful to all parts of your body! Not just the lungs.


I smoked for about twelve years long ago, I always had it. There were harsh pounds and there were mild pounds, anywhere from seventy five bucks a pound for homegrown to two hundred twenty five bucks a pound for columbian gold. The real good rainbow stuff was three hundred bucks a pound. The stems and seeds made great brownies and the butter worked great on pizzas along with some of the herb.

over the years I evaluated what it does to people. and quit when I started my business, it took months to clear out of my system and a year before I was able to regain my total ability to reason after I quit. I saw many of the people I knew who smoked it that kept it up wind up with major health problems with lungs.

I have more experience with cannabis than most everyone I know. Tobacco makes you smarter if you do not over indulge, at which point it dopes you up. Cannabis makes you less able to reason and comprehend. I wanted to know why so studied how it works in the body...I was curious. I had to examine both sides of the issue, not limit myself to reinforcing my beliefs.

Why is the government making it legal now since for fifty years they know it dumbs people down. Maybe because nobody is drinking as much milk now or maybe it is because they are avoiding wheat, which also dope us up and make us content....unable to see what they are doing.

Don't feel bad, while your comprehension is suppressed, everyone can't tell that they cannot think properly, it is a drug. It is not as bad as the hard drugs, but it does lower your ability to see the whole picture and it makes people be content with little.

Cannabis is a medicine, it can treat many diseases. The part that treats most diseases does not get you high. There are a couple of diseases that get better results with the THC, but it is not worth the loss of cognition.

I have to state that I never participated in illegal activities like that because it was illegal up to a year ago. I never sold any pot to cops, judges or lawyers or city officials either. I never got pulled into the police station by the tri-county detectives with all the local cops whom most I partied with either because I sold to a narc either. I was an angel. I had good friends whom I would never squeal on. Just because one of my friends decided to go light up a joint in the police station and got thrown in jail for "Being Stupid" doesn't mean I was that way. They told us they didn't want him walking in front of a car and causing them paperwork when we went to get him out in the morning, I guess they did not feel he should be put in jail for being stupid. They didn't give him back his pot either, it was pretty good crap.

That is life in the seventies.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: vonclod

originally posted by: game over man
a reply to: rickymouse

Maybe you have respiratory problems to begin with? Or were smoking dirt weed? Many professional athletes smoke tons of weed and their leagues now allow it. Tobacco is much more harmful to all parts of your body! Not just the lungs.

Smoking anything, is going to have "some" effect, been smoking the best there is for 35 years.


Hey, it has not been legal for thirty five years, you must be exaggerating, you have only been smoking since it has been legal.

RIGHT



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: IgnorantGod
a reply to: visitedbythem

It is probably unrelated to smoking, it could be all about genes, or simply because he trained his lung capacity.


I hear marijuana smoke expands a lot. Maybe it expanded his lung capacity


Oh wow, maybe they should use marijuana as a ventilator for covid people.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 04:28 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Sounds like personal preference tbh. Here is what i will tell you that almost anyone can agree -- if my clothes smell like cigarettes like when i leave the casino (i dont smoke), they skip the laundry basket and go directly in the washing machine. If they they smell like weed they go in the laundry basket with other clothes. The smell of cigarette smoke is indisputably more disgusting.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 04:34 PM
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a reply to: visitedbythem

I find it hard to believe, mostly because as stated by another poster, any smoke in the lungs can't do good since lung hasn't been made to take it in the first place.

Still, I can't dismiss it either, but since I smoke (mix of tobacco and cannabis) on a daily basis, I did observe a degradation in my lungs capacities.



posted on Apr, 10 2020 @ 04:45 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

$75/lb you don't know what you're talking about.


Tobacco makes you sharper, weed makes you dumber is false.



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