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C'mon you old Farts If you know COBOL You're Essential!

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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 01:54 PM
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www.cnn.com...




Wanted urgently: People who know a half century-old computer language so states can process unemployment claims


I laughed my butt off when I read this! They can't kill off all the old folks until they get this fixed!
This is like a bad Simpsons episode.

On a more serious note, why the heck haven't these systems been updated. C'mon a 11 year old can create programs
these days.

On an even more serious note, you would not believe how many industries (banks, hospitals etc) still use outdated systems. Quite scary if you've seen it.

WHEN "V"
DISPLAY 'Old People Rock'
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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 01:58 PM
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LDA X
Push , push , pull

Watch that stack , feller.

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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:02 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Wait until people find out our nuclear power plants still run on punch cards...



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:02 PM
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A LOT of COBOL still "out there".

Cheers



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:02 PM
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Wow.
Last time I used COBOL was the Y2K panic.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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I've forgotten more COBOL than I ever knew.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

Weren't these idiots supposed to "modernize" their systems away from COBOL after Y2K? That's 20+ years of criminally negligent "public service" IMO.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:14 PM
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These systems arent updated because they work, more importantly they will contain zero of the vulnerabilities that newer frameworks / stacks contain.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:15 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
These systems arent updated because they work, more importantly they will contain zero of the vulnerabilities that newer frameworks / stacks contain.


And they ensure absolute job security for some very clever people....



I seriously knew people that were not fire-able because they were the only ones that knew the "system"
They were also oddly incapable of teaching others... I'm not going to say if I was one of those people or not.


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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: 0zzymand0s
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Weren't these idiots supposed to "modernize" their systems away from COBOL after Y2K? That's 20+ years of criminally negligent "public service" IMO.

Nope.
OSes can handle any year.
It is the BIOS (CMOS) that had the world terrified.

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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:19 PM
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originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
These systems arent updated because they work, more importantly they will contain zero of the vulnerabilities that newer frameworks / stacks contain.


There is one reason they haven't been updated

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:21 PM
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Since this thread is bound to turn into an off topic coder fest:

Speaking of stacks, who here has used FORTH?
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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: JAGStorm

originally posted by: AScrubWhoDied
These systems arent updated because they work, more importantly they will contain zero of the vulnerabilities that newer frameworks / stacks contain.


There is one reason they haven't been updated

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

No.
Believe it or not , it is familiarity.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:21 PM
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although i think they were upgraded not sure couldn't find anything that said they were. back in 2014 the air force missile bases were unhackable due using 60's and 70's operating systems and floppy disks. hell the phones wouldn't even go to a outside line.

here's one report,



Jack Weinstein: I'll tell you, those older systems provide us some -- I will say huge safety when it comes to some cyber issues that we currently have in the world.
Lesley Stahl: Now, explain that.
Jack Weinstein: A few years ago we did a complete analysis of our entire network. Cyber engineers found out that the system is extremely safe and extremely secure on the way it's developed.
Lesley Stahl: Meaning that you're not up on the Internet kind of thing?
Jack Weinstein: We're not up on the Internet.
Lesley Stahl: So did the cyber people recommend you keep it the way it is?
Jack Weinstein: For right now, yes.
Who's minding the nukes?


if it ain't broke don't fix it.


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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:26 PM
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originally posted by: Phage
Since this thread is bound to turn into an off topic coder fest:

Speaking of stacks, who here has used FORTH?

Hahahaha
Did you know GForth is still maintained and upgraded ?



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: UKWO1Phot
Wow.
Last time I used COBOL was the Y2K panic.
Last time for me was 1987 and it was thought then that COBOL systems would be replaced in 10-15 years. Well.....



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:29 PM
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How about FORTRAN people?



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:30 PM
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I seriously knew people that were not fire-able because they were the only ones that knew the "system"
They were also oddly incapable of teaching others... I'm not going to say if I was


reading this made me think about companies that fire people and hire new folks to do their jobs cheaper, and expect them to teach the new folks.

i'd teach them all right, they'd be so blanked up by the time i got done, the company would be losing money.



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posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:34 PM
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I used PolyFORTH, which is definitely still in use.



posted on Apr, 8 2020 @ 02:36 PM
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Does WATFIV count?



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