Tucker Carlson issues the warning most of us knew was coming.

There is only one answer, lock and load boys!

S&F OP.

I made it about 1 min and 6 seconds into the video and had to stop viewing. I felt an emotional shift from first incredulity, to then anxiety and finally anger whilst watching the clip.

The initial part of Tucket's segment is an excerpt from an interview/talk given by Michael Ryan, top official (?) of the World Health Organization. I'm paraphrasing a bit, and IIRC another member posted a transcript so you can read the official record word for word yourself. EDIT: I just clicked the link to the PDF transcript of Mr. Ryan's remarks, and WHO has apparently removed it (the link 404's)

I haven't watched the entirety of Mr. Ryan's address (just the clip aired during Tucket's segment), so I'll admit I don't have a complete view of the context from his speech. Without access to the transcript, I'll paraphrase.

Essentially, the gist of it is, Mr. Ryan stated that since most of the world has (for better or worse) entered a state of "lockdown", transmissions of COVID have ceased taking place in public places, out on the streets, and are now occurring inside homes, at the family level. Hence, Mr Ryan states, now "we" (whoever "we" is) need to go into homes to discover who has COVID, remove the family member from their home and isolate them, "in a safe and dignified manner".

After watching this portion of Tucker's show several times over now, I would like to extend the benefit of the doubt to Mr. Ryan, in that his words were uttered without any authoritarian and draconian overtones. Yet, if you just listen to his words, on the face of it, the Ryan implies that government and health officials now have license to separate family members based on the purview of stopping the spread of COVID. Nowhere in the segment does Mr. Ryan equivocate this by addressing what the wants and needs of the actual FAMILY are in this case. Perhaps the family is perfectly fine remaining isolated together even if not everyone is ill yet. Maybe the thought of mandated removal of family members is more worrisome than everyone in the home catching COVID, i.e. "the cure is worse than the disease".

My thoughts immediately went to my two young daughters upon listening to Mr. Ryan's statement. Should either of them catch COVID, the decision to isolate or not isolate would be made within our household, not by our mayor, not the chief physician at the local hospital, not the local police captain, and most certainly NOT some talking head from W.H.O.

The thought of my daughters becoming seriously ill, followed by a gaggle of strangers in biohazard suits barging into our house to collect up my children, uninvited, is what precipitated the emotional experience I described above.

There are times I feel the only reason I am alive on this Earth, the only motivation I have to get out of bed in the morning, is the obligation to raise my daughters, to love them and help equip them for adulthood. I'll be damned if anybody is going to separate them from me against my wishes; don't care if we're talking about COVID or Ebola or name your illness.

Some things are worse than dying, at least that's how I view things.

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: MykeNukem

Nope, that's not the original video. That's the same one from Fox News.

Ok here is the full Official Transcript.

I found it by doing whats called an "Internet Search".

PDF Transcript from WHO

Starts at 00:49:04

I tried to open this link, and it's now a dead-end (HTTP 404). Had anyone confirmed that the speech transcript had been previously reachable at that URL?

a reply to: Helious

You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence.

Our society is based on greed. They want the country open and can always open the borders a bit if too many slaves start dying.

Tucker raises a really good point how is going shopping at a grocer store to buy food and toilet paper safer than going to work where you may interact with 1 to 20 people, and if they just cough they go into self-isolation ?

I know people around me that have had the exact symptoms of COVID-19 but they never got tested and recovered, they also took a week off to recover. This was in early January before this blew up in North America. I think people have been getting this and recovering and or dying for much longer because people either just stayed home until they recovered or they went to the doctor with fever and fluid build up in the lungs and the doctor or hospitals never tested for it, then it turned into pneumonia, that's what they had and either recovered from or died from.

I would like to know what the statistics on deaths from pneumonia are for the last 6 months ?

a reply to: billxam

I’m from Michigan, and work at Costco. It is definitely everyone’s fault; and mostly the government, it’s is their job to guide us.... is it not? That being said we are still on lockdown, and our idiot governor will likely extend it further like she has said numerous times.
The pieces are coming together on this being a “bad flu”, especially since millions have likely had/have it. They are struggling to justify such an absurd reaction; they seem to fear the repercussions of they just say “oh well you know, sorry for ruining the economy and a lot of your futures; but we thought it was gonna be a lot worse.” that mind set was based off of fixed number and crooked models that were easily thrown to the side as bogus; as soon as one investigated or researched for 10 mins on your own.

THE REAL issue; what is/was the end game here? Surely there must be a “final act” before the “credits”

a reply to: Helious

I have always liked Tucker, he always says things as they are. My concern now is, are these potable tests that are being sent to our homes, in place to weed out those they can deem ill and start making mass round ups of people and their family members. This is all very worrying, more worrying then an invisible virus that from the numbers, is less likely to kill me then depression could for many of us.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

Tucker has really grown up a lot over the past year. Or I have. Probably the latter.

originally posted by: SleeperHasAwakened

originally posted by: MykeNukem

originally posted by: Trueman
a reply to: MykeNukem

Nope, that's not the original video. That's the same one from Fox News.

Ok here is the full Official Transcript.

I found it by doing whats called an "Internet Search".

PDF Transcript from WHO

Starts at 00:49:04

I tried to open this link, and it's now a dead-end (HTTP 404). Had anyone confirmed that the speech transcript had been previously reachable at that URL?

Yes, Truman and I both accessed it there. The speech is real.

I should have downloaded it, too.

originally posted by: incoserv
I can honestly say that there is nothing surprising in that report. This is pretty much what I've seen coming since shortly after the beginning. This thing got bizarre real quick.

We are being played. It may, in the long run, be a mistake for me to express that opinion in such a public forum.

I don't know if we're being played as much as the government just doesn't know what to do and is VERY bad at admitting when they make a mistake. Just as the report said, when their measures don't seem to be working, they double down on them, rather than logically figuring out that they AREN'T working.

a reply to: SleeperHasAwakened

I would encourage you to collect yourself and when ready, watch the entire clip. I'm not a fan of Tucker's (or Fox News for that matter) but I decided to watch the clip and decide for myself what was being said. I have to admit, I too felt a myriad of feelings at first. After watching the clip in it's entirety, I ended up actually feeling better about the whole situation. Not because there are answers to all of our problems within the video but because I too have been asking the same questions from the beginning.

I have gone through many stages of emotional and rational thoughts on this entire covid19 thing. At first, I was like "the flu is worse and no one is screaming that we take drastic measures to stop it". Then starting thinking that maybe this covid19 is really as bad as they are saying. I'm not a Trump fan either and at first, I was unhappy with his reaction to threat. Calling it a hoax (IMHO) at first was wrong. The CDC visit where he bragged about how much he knew and understood about the virus really irked me. Then as time went on there was a shift in his demeanor. you could see a physical change in him including his tone. Then I started to see that he was actually trying to be a voice of reason (hear me out on this). Giving people some sort of hope in all of this is not a bad thing. It looked to me like he was trying to do that among all of the dire reports from the Dr's. I am still not a fan of Trump's (and probably never will be) but I will agree that some of the hard decisions he has made have been good ones.

I question the numbers every day. We all know the numbers are not accurate, not even close. The testing and reporting process alone tells you they can't be accurate. My biggest question to all of this has been, why? I know everyone has their own answer to this question and as this is a conspiracy site, many answers are very dark indeed. My question to the answers is, "what is gained"? The answers are many...

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Helious


The end question in the vid, how is going to the grocery store any different than going to work? That’s a dumb question. Most people work 40+ hours a week and depending on their job come into contact with hundreds if not thousand of people. I spend max one and a half hour at the grocery store every two weeks. Stores now are starting to limit people and have spacing requirements.

If there is no conspiracy and we look at just numbers and “chances” of catching this, there is no comparison between the two.

Not saying there won’t be repercussions from joblessness.

Lol, If you analyze what he said you can make sense out of it.
A supermarket compared to work and people buy this doom porn?

They told people to start wearing a rag or bandanna, why. Because they dont want regular people buying ppe stuff. they want it solely for the medical field.

a reply to: Helious

Well, this is a very good segment. I appreciated all the points and concerns he raised. Thanks for sharing, OP, I never watch television news anymore. I'm so used to the media trotting out controlled-opposition nutbags to discredit my views by *cough* representing them on TV -- props to Tucker for the professionalism and for leaving partisan politics out of it.

I remember when Jon Stewart called Tucker a "d*ck," on Crossfire. The name-calling aside, Stewart was right in his criticism: Crossfire was damaging to political discourse due to its' extreme left vs. extreme right debate platform. There was no middle ground, no balance. People watching were bound to take one of the extreme sides. No doubt that was by design.

Anyway, I think this segment would make Jon Stewart happy if he saw it.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

VERY good point. IN Ottawa Canada, they had a flurry of pneumonia deaths in NOVEMBER. There were news articles about it and how some of the hospital morgues were running out of space.

Dr. Ryan is an idiot, who would put first responders lives at risk
It is already assumed the entire house hold is infected if one family member becomes ill.
there is no reason to separate family members
controls are already in-place.

I have to give to Tucker he made me laugh a couple times, talking about the supermarket and such.

Interesting about that town in Italy that was on an Extreme Lock-down and every one still got infected, Makes me wonder maybe we should judt go back to work , I dunno maybe I'm a Loon everybody keeps saying going back to normal would mean certain death.

Either way I'm on may way to the sporting goods store.

Well that’s good you don’t have lines to get food and other goods. I have for the past 10 days or so (it’s becoming one long blur...) had a 30 minute line outside the store (folks standing in the rain, 1 ft apart lol) waiting to get food and TP.

I can view the line outside my apartment window. I’m concerned the response has been incorrect the whole time regarding this situation.

a reply to: Nyiah

I may be wrong here but wouldn't it stand to reason that keeping stores and groceries open is actually viewed as a necessary risk because starvation would kill at least as many as the virus if we went on a total lockdown and then waited for troops to drop supplies off at our doors? The news I've been watching has mentioned multiple times a day that the distancing and closures is about slowing the number of cases because the virus is pretty survivable so long as we have complete access to modern medicine.

Maybe they didn't implement stricter rules at groceries because they thought people would use common sense and follow distancing guidelines after they lost their jobs and hobbies to the virus. Here in ohio entire families are going to the grocery using the logic of "well if the store is safe to visit then this must be blown out of proportions so let's just all go hang out at the grocery as a loophole." So much so our authorities have been begging people to stop and started passing more restrictions about how many people can enter the store and no groups.

And let's face it, box store employees aren't known for being our best and brightest. I've worked at one and we all had a story about how we screwed up to get there, with the smartest ones moving OUT of the company, not up. Yesterday I personally witnessed 4 employees wearing masks upside down or not over their noses as well as using contaminated gloved hands on their phones and cigarettes. It was during hours restricted to elderly and immune compromised and the store manager hadn't even heard about the policy! They weren't applying any of the quantity restrictions either so rich people were buying entire stocks of stuff with employees literally just saying "oh you lucky duck!"

Maybe those in charge realized that people that have to be trained on how to bag groceries without damaging them (and still fail) aren't people you would count on following public health guidelines?

Didn't see that particular Tucker segment, but I heard about this idea of separating family members by force somewhere. All I can say is:

Bring bodybags. One for me; a few hundred for you.

TheRedneck

It is also worth noting that the possibility that multiple strains could have already circulated our country and our leaders dont want our people to get a false sense of security that might provoke people into taking greater risks. Several of my former coworkers that believe we got it in December (see my post in thread 5) have used it as the foundation for their cavalier behavior. Especially considering it could have easily been a flu and now they are operating on the assumption that they have antibodies to a virus they never encountered.