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NYC doctor: Medical paradigm that is untrue

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posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:17 PM
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This seems quite exceptional, in fact i dont remember seeing anything like this before from any doctor.





Edit : I find a comment that video from Chris Masterjohn, PhD ..a well know person in the medical field. He posted a link to a paper that says Italians also notices something. Well since i am not a doctor it`s not so clear to me..

Covid-19 Does Not Lead to a “Typical” Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome
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posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:42 PM
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For those that are on Twitter some interesting information by the same source: twitter.com...



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:49 PM
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a reply to: Kenzo
Wait .
WTF ?
"I opened an intensive care unit"
What ?




posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:53 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog


What`s wrong with that ? Maybe they are opening now a lot new care units in NYC



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA
For those that are on Twitter some interesting information by the same source: twitter.com...

David Icke spoke of this in his live discussion tonight......the one that has been removed from youtube.
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posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:00 PM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: Gothmog


What`s wrong with that ? Maybe they are opening now a lot new care units in NYC

It would most likely not be an "I" situation
Not saying it would be impossible , just highly unlikely .
Maybe a very poor choice of wording ?



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:01 PM
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a reply to: Gothmog

Yeeh most likely poor wording



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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a reply to: Kenzo

WTF? I don't want to download a pdf and I can't Watch the video. What does he say?



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:02 PM
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originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: Gothmog

Yeeh most likely poor wording

Or , he could be "full of himself"
Beware YouTube videos of doctors.
Common sense thing to do.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: opethPA

Thank you.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:15 PM
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Does this match up with the theory from yesterday?




originally posted by: sirric
Covid-19 had us all fooled, but now we might have finally found its secret.

Apr 4 · 8 min read

www.smalldeadanimals.com...

In the last 3–5 days, a mountain of anecdotal evidence has come out of NYC, Italy, Spain, etc. about COVID-19 and characteristics of patients who get seriously ill. It’s not only piling up but now leading to a general field-level consensus backed up by a few previously little-known studies that we’ve had it all wrong the whole time. Well, a few had some things eerily correct (cough Trump cough), especially with Hydroxychloroquine with Azithromicin, but we’ll get to that in a minute.
There is no ‘pneumonia’ nor ARDS. At least not the ARDS with established treatment protocols and procedures we’re familiar with. Ventilators are not only the wrong solution, but high pressure intubation can actually wind up causing more damage than without, not to mention complications from tracheal scarring and ulcers given the duration of intubation often required… They may still have a use in the immediate future for patients too far to bring back with this newfound knowledge, but moving forward a new treatment protocol needs to be established so we stop treating patients for the wrong disease.

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posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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So the gist of this video is that the current treatment protocols for CV19 are incorrect: CV19 is being treated as a viral pneumonia, but it is not a viral pneumonia. More importantly, treating CV19 as a viral pneumonia is causing more harm to the patients by damaging their lungs.

The doctor goes on to describe the effects of CV19 as being more akin to oxygen starvation as might be seen in victims of high-altitude disease, as opposed to what would be seen in pneumonia victims.

The problem with his presentation, however, is that he fails to explain that there is a differentiation between “cause” and “effect”:

Pneumonia kills because its victims eventually suffocate, that is, cannot sufficiently oxygenate their blood to remain alive. The mechanics of this slow suffocation typically involve the build-up of mucous in the victim’s lungs, which prevents the oxygen from passing into the victim’s bloodstream (and the exchange of CO2 from the bloodstream).

Note that pneumonia is not, itself, a disease, but a condition of the lungs, usually caused by an underlying disease.

So, CV19 is not a “viral pneumonia” (to my knowledge, no medical expert ever claimed it was), it is a respiratory virus, as it is member of the SARS family of viruses. And as a respiratory virus, it can, and often does, trigger a pneumonic response.

The doctor never explains what he believes might be an alternative to the current treatment protocol; nor does he even suggest that an alternative treatment might exist (I have read that certain steroids have been tried to reduce pulmonary inflammation which contributes to the production of mucus, with inconclusive results).

Patients are dying because they cannot get oxygen into their blood. They cannot get oxygen into their blood because CV19 has caused their bodies to fill their lungs with mucus. The only current method doctors have to try to force oxygen into these patients bloodstreams ( short of heart-lung machines) is to use ventilators.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:25 PM
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Interesting. Thanks for the summary. And where, I wonder, does the heart damage sit in this whole picture? I know oxygen starvation is bad for the old ticker in any form, but this article here:
khn.org...
seems to state the virus is potentially capable of infecting the heart muscle.
So give them O2, but then what? If it attacks the heart, even with the extra O2, that implies bad news.

New virus. New treatments. No wonder things aren't quite "right" yet.
It's interesting that the world finally gets to see that doctors and researchers are human beings and can only think so fast, even in teams. Hats off to the medical professionals working as hard as they can to figure this out.

a reply to: Gothmog

Right? This situation is a WE thing. Not a ME thing. That wording struck me as "off" as well.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:32 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

you can see and hear more here here

with a second follow up video from a conference call.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:33 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: Gothmog


What`s wrong with that ? Maybe they are opening now a lot new care units in NYC

It would most likely not be an "I" situation
Not saying it would be impossible , just highly unlikely .
Maybe a very poor choice of wording ?


He did pronounce it "phenomenom" so...



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:37 PM
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a reply to: Crosswinds

Haven’t read anything that specifies or explains the damage CV19 does to the heart; only that damage appears to have occurred in some instances.

Would be interested to learn if damage was to the muscle itself, or to the sac around the heart (as in endocarditis).

Given the type of damage victims have experienced to lung tissue, I would expect the cardiac damage seen to be the result of an endocarditis-like involvement. The pathological mechanisms would seem similar.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:41 PM
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For those grammar Nazis perhaps listen to the interview he gave MedTox COVID19 Webinar Series ACEsARBs, NSAIDS, Remdesivir & Updates from the Front Lines


Perhaps now you'll think his credentials are legit.

He starts talking at the 1 hour mark.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:42 PM
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originally posted by: Crosswinds
a reply to: Bhadhidar

Interesting. Thanks for the summary. And where, I wonder, does the heart damage sit in this whole picture? I know oxygen starvation is bad for the old ticker in any form, but this article here:
khn.org...
seems to state the virus is potentially capable of infecting the heart muscle.
So give them O2, but then what? If it attacks the heart, even with the extra O2, that implies bad news.

New virus. New treatments. No wonder things aren't quite "right" yet.
It's interesting that the world finally gets to see that doctors and researchers are human beings and can only think so fast, even in teams. Hats off to the medical professionals working as hard as they can to figure this out.

a reply to: Gothmog

Right? This situation is a WE thing. Not a ME thing. That wording struck me as "off" as well.


I have never heard any medical professional use the word "I" in the aspect as in the video.
It is the word "we" or "me and my team" , etc.



posted on Apr, 6 2020 @ 03:44 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

Considering in severe cases patients cannot breath without a ventilator or organ failures start to occur, I would imagine it’s occurring do to the lack of oxygen. I also read early reports during the wuhan, corona rodeo, some medicines they were trying were damaging the heart, but that was back when stories were going around, patients were getting infected a 2nd time causing cardiac arrest. 🤷‍♂️



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