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originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Lagomorphe
On the other hand, other ATS threads (apart from anything else) also have stories about the Chinese ruthlessly acquiring masks and such supplies, e.g. from Australia and America. So why would they they be selling?
I'm not sure that both lines of anti-Chinese rumour can be true, unless the Chinese left hand doesn't know what the Chinese right hand is doing.
so doesn't that mean that the French are selling off their own stuff? Better question: "Who was the American that showed up with cash for 60 million masks working for?"
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Lagomorphe
In other words, you think the Chinese left hand (which wants the money) is at cross-purposes with the Chinese right hand (which wants more masks for Chinese use)?
originally posted by: KindraLaBelle
I'm in your neighboring country, Belgium. We to have ordered masks from China.
Last week we already received about 15 million face masks but once they were distributed to the hospitals it soon showed that the masks are worthless!
We bought them as fpp2 and N95 masks but they came without certificate, packed in used banana boxes and the quality poorly. Tests shown that the masks don't offer any protection at all for healthcare workers.
looked for an English link but couldn't find any. It's been in the local news for two days
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Lagomorphe
I wasn't arguing, just trying to work in common towards a grasp of what was happening, one scientific observer to another.
To recap our exchange thus far.
Reading your OP as i did, I pointed out that contradictory rumours also existed, and observed that both sets could not be true, unless the Chinese were working in self-contradictory ways. If they were ruthlessly acquiring, why would they be selling?
The selling would be for profit, you pointed out.
This opened up the possibility that you favoured the "Chinese working at cross-purposes" theory, so I checked if this was the case. The theory is very pausible in itself. Westerners also sell for profit things which their country needs. However, without that theory, we come back to the question of whether both sets of stories can be true.
originally posted by: DISRAELI
a reply to: Lagomorphe
I did read and I wasn't attacking anybody. Read my posts again at a time when you're not on edge abiut the possibility of being attacked.
originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: Lagomorphe
Lags, I think a more pressing question to ask is why all us Western countries have to order masks from China?
Something badly wrong with that aspect of providing for essential items. A terrible failure of planning in. every. single. Western. country.
BTW, the "grabbing" of medical equipment is going on in quite a few places. The Germans and Italians have already been upbraided over that. Countries are reverting to nationalist behavior.
Cheers