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posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 11:56 AM
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There is only one color that doesn't care about the color of a person's skin.

You see it every day. On the television, at work or even at recreational events.

The color that brings the color of skin together is GREEN!

Maybe we could genetically alter ourselves to make everyones skin color green. We'd be universally accepted then!


Here's a link I'd like for some of you to read, Dixie's Censored Subject.

BTW, if it were meant that there would be one race, we wouldn't have many. Whites aren't the only ones guilty of racism. All races practice it whether you want to believe it or not!

Note: I was going to say: if it were meant to be only one race, God wouldn't have created the different ones. Man is trying to create something that was never meant to be.

[edit on 12/3/05 by Intelearthling]




posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Amuk
Are you saying its not anywhere else? Why are you singling out the South? There are more skinheads, neo-Nazis and kluckers in the north then the south.

I love you regs but I think you are looking at this through the same old blinders


To claim it is just a Southern problem is to brush off the REAL problem.


No, Amuk, I'm not just saying that it is a southerners problem, I'm just not that familiar with the way things are done in Northern areas. I've lived most of my life in the south, and, while I did spend about 6 weeks up in NY visiting a friend, we really didn't go much of anywhere. (Long story, not getting into it.)

I realize that racism is a big problem in many areas, but, my experience only deals with the south. I would love to hear the perspective of people in other areas, though. Anyone else wanna chime in and tell me their perspective?

regs



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 02:32 PM
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Racism will never go away. Not as long as black men rape white women, not as long as white men wrongfully convict black men. They dont like us, and we dont like them. period. This is, of course, generally speaking though. Once you know them on an individual basis its different. But on a whole, yes thats what is.

I'm reminded of this girl I used to date. She was sooo against anything to do with race. Why? Because she met 2 black people when she was in college. So her whole opinion of the race was based on them. Good guys apparently. What she refused to see, was the rest. According to her, they could do no wrong, never abuse the system, and were all victims. See, she fell for the same BS that alot of people do.

Dont believe em! Racism is more rampant in black society than white. Its just that they can say whatever they want, and the white man had dare not say a word about it!, but put the shoe on the other foot and look out!



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by spliff4020
Racism will never go away. Not as long as black men rape white women, not as long as white men wrongfully convict black men. They dont like us, and we dont like them. period. ok out!


To quote what you said a couple of posts back Spliff - "LOOK OUT, YOUR A RACIST!"
By the way, my username is paranoia, i'm the guy that asked about the white guy dating your daughter in comparison to a black guy.


[edit on 12-3-2005 by paranoia]



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 08:15 PM
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my daughter is a mixed breed, half serbian with russian polish and gypsy in her. My next two children are part aboriginal and I am proud of their heritage.

When I entered a relationship with a 'wog' a yugoslav that could barely speak english, i was cast out by my christian family and shunned. I learnt a whole new culture but in the end it was the differences that tore us apart to remain close friends.

My first husband I find out now was a quarter cast, part aboriginal. This was hushed up in his family and hidden, leaving my children by him with no idea of their cultural heritage.

The racism I see gets me cranky. No race is better than another, they are all different and we can learn from all of them.

Where I live there is a large section of maoris, aboriginals, islanders and papuans and I would rather spend an afternoon at my 'black' friends place than most 'whites' I know. I am treated no different and find the racism comes mainly from the whites thinking they are better than these people. My children love to play with their children and i find no prejudices amongst the children unlike the so called white children who are taught prejudices from their parents.

My friends experience racism every day, the best example was one of my female friends who was serving a german in a petrol station and told that he would not accept service from 'her kind of people' he demanded to se ethe manager to complain ...and out pops the owner.....a pakistani..hahahaha we all got a laugh over this dudes ignorance and unbelievable blatant racism.

Australia is largly multi culteral now and it makes for so much more and so much new 'culture' to be introduced to our society. The children are our future and the mixed breeds bring so many extra qualities to life.



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 08:21 PM
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If this thread wasn't started by a Mod, I would have thought this was another attempt recruiting/infiltrating by racists. Spliff, I didn't know you were a racist
That's too bad. I hope someday you meet some black people you like, and I hope your daughter doesn't have the same experiences you have had, too.


Personally, I'm not a racist, I hate everyone.



posted on Mar, 12 2005 @ 08:27 PM
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makes it easier to hate everyone equally......then you cannot be accused of favouritism



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by poonchang
If this thread wasn't started by a Mod, I would have thought this was another attempt recruiting/infiltrating by racists.


No, this thread is definetly not an attempt to recruit. It is an attempt to have an honest discussion on the topic of racism. I know you weren't insinuating that, but I thought I'd just put that out there.

I am intrigued by the blatant racism of some people, though. I would have thought that with the moto being deny ignorance, people would realize that racism is ignorance. Ignorance of the beauty inside people, instead of the skin color of some. But, that's just my oppinion, and, as oppinions come a dime a dozen, it doesn't mean much, except to me.

My thoughts are that it doesn't matter what color a person's skin is, we are all equal in the site of God, and we should be equal in the site of other people. I personally am a 24 year old part Dutch, part Scotch Irish, part native American, part English girl. Quiet a mix, huh? Anyways, as I said earlier, I have just never met anyone of a darker skin tone that I've desired to be in a relationship with. But, who's to say? It could happen. Am I going to just refuse to be in a relationship with them based on the skin color? No. To do that would be to fall to ignorance. Would I forbid my daughter, who is only 17 months old, to be in a multi-racial relationship if she desired to be in one? No.

It matters not what color a person's skin is. What matters is the character of the person. The heart of the person. To decide a person is inferior based on race is just plain stupid...and wrong.

Saying that, Spliff, I have to say that you are a racist. Join the members of an age old group and be done with it. Prejudice is wrong, but, hey, I guess you have your reasons...however misguided they may be, you have the right to have them, but, remember, opinions are a dime a dozen and not worth much to anyone else. It does shock, anger, and frustrate me that you would, in effect, disown your daughter for her choice if a black man were to marry her if he didn't pass your 6 requirements, though. I guess you hold your prejudices closer than you hold your daughter and your love for her...huh?

regs



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 01:30 AM
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Isn't it enough that a couple loves each other, do they also have to have the same pigmentation to fall in love?




Love is Love in whatever shape or form




we all dated who we were interested in - love (and lust for that matter) is colorblind.




I think that if someone makes you really happy and you love them, it does'nt matter what color they are.




"Personally, to me the whole issue is nonexistent. I don't see a problem with it, personally, and intend on urging my daughter to just be blind to the skin color of someone."


Love, being colorblind does not make interracial marriage acceptable or right in the eyes of whom, u people collectively call "racists"(who, by the way also realize love is colorblind). Judging from you people's posts, I think ur in the category of, race is just skin color, certain physical traits, and racial purity has no value, importance.

I, like my generation abroad, was tought this in the public school system starting in preschool. This teaching in the public schools and else-where is both good and bad in my view. Good because it means learning to see past our differences, live together(because interacting with other races pretty much can't be avoided), in peace and friendship, helping and learning from one another, and looking at individuals of different race at eye level, not looking down on them. I'm 19, white and grew up with kids of every race and mixes of races. I've had and have good FRIENDS of different color.

Bad because it is this philosophy, which is ingrained in kids heads, that says mixing is normal, pureness of race isnt something important to preserve. So basically, RESPECT races not of your own, be proud of what u are(race). But don't worry about doing your part to PRESERVE the purity of your race and by doing so preserving the purity of other races. If you VALUE your NATIONALITY like i do, it is illogical, treacherous, and self-destructive not to preserve it. It is like saying, Respect the freedoms of others and let us not take the freedoms we have for granted(or anything else of value) but let's not worry about doing our part to protect/preserve our freedoms and others! Instead let's toss our freedoms in a "Melting Pot" filled with boiling hot Socialist/Communist liquid and watch them disintegrate.

The framework of a persons self-worth, self-esteem, integrity, belonging, IDENTITY is made of the ideology they stand for, which largely includes one's own NATIONALITY/ETHNICITY. So, to teach that Race/nationality/ethnicity is just skin color and reduce everything that is associated with that color's unique culture to a handfull of silly insignificant celebrations as a tiny footnote in life, is to create a void in that persons' sense of belonging, Racial Integrity. What fills or tries to fill this void called insecurity at a young age besides Religion/faith? Pop-culture which is a very poor substitute, which only distracts from the problems of insecurities and doesn't give the solution.

By Definition, RACIAL INTEGRATION= IMPAIRED(to diminish in strength, value; injured; damaged) state due to break-down of RACIAL INTEGRITY
So once the races become integrated, they lose their integrity and become impaired.



It took a lot of deep thought, and deprogramming, to get by the beliefs of my elders and realize that they were nothing more than the product of fear and confusion.


Many people of all races will do anything to preserve their race/culture,be it right or wrong, good or evil, out of fear, out of love of their tribe, out of pride/arrogance.



What is really the big deal about multi-racial relationships?


U must realize that when the millions of people who are "race concious,"see there own race coupled with a different one, expecially the attractive opposite sex, negative feelings such as anger, frustration, a sense of betrayal etc. are naturally provoked. It is DEMORALIZING.Coming from Christian perspective, this statement is very True to me. Corinthians 11:7 says that the man is the image and glory of God, but the WOMAN IS THE GLORY OF MAN. So what is the Glory of the asian man? The asian woman. The white man? The white woman. The arab, mexican, indian, black man? u get the point.

So when I, like Many others see the Glory of my race, in my case and preferance, a beautiful blonde, walking down the street with someone of another race, especially with kids, it is dissapointing to say the least that some of the glory of my race has been taken, robbed. And to think that her daughters will not have the same beautiful looks as her is sad. On the flipside women of her spouses' race will take low blows to their morale/confidence/self-esteem. But theirs always another fish in the sea right? One of the Mongolian Kahn rulers who's reach stretched through Russia said that the conquered feel defeat greatest when u take their woman and children as your own.

I'm not full-blood white by the way, I'm dominantly German/British, but I'm 1/8 Native American. My grandma on one side is half Native American, half german. I still don't look like I have one drop of Indian in me, I have fair skin, blonde hair and blues eyes. I'm proud of my Native American heritage eventhough I dont associate with my tribe, for obvious reasons. The biggest being white boys aren't exactly welcome and accepted well with most of the full-bloods.Because its an insult to their IDENTITY of who is really Native. They want their blood to survive and stay pure because they are a small minority. I'm not bothered by this, I know I don't belong with them. I'd rather be full-blood white or full-blood Native American anyday, eventhough I haven't had any problems. Unlike many who's mixed features which stand out, cause them much suffering.

BTW I guess u christians could say God is a Racial-Separatist, judging from what he did in Genesis 11:1-9. The description of Babel reminds me of home, good ol' USA. But God isn't going to separate us by mixing our languages up again, he's coming again, this time to rule on earth. As a Christian, I still believe he wants the whole world to be of One mind, Spiritualy, and worship him in one accord.

[edit on 13-3-2005 by Cherubimsfire]



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 01:54 AM
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Originally posted by regs
She would "disown" her daughter for becoming involved with a man of a different race. In my mind, this shows either a lack of true love for her daughter, or a deep seated hatred. I think, personally, that in this area it is a deep seated hatred.


I think she's an arsehole.

A human being is a human being no matter where they are born or what colour their skin is. If this woman is so shallow as to do this, then she needs locking away in a nice rat infested mediaeval dungeon.

Just my pixyish opinion of course.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 02:41 AM
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The plight of black people in America for the past 50 years has been an economic one. How many black people are in upper management? I'm willing to bet very few. This is not because black people are inferior in intelligence or anything else. It's because rich white people are scared of competition. And it's not just competition from black people. They are scared of legitimate competition period.

I had the opportunity to work in a high tech field where half my coworkers were black (I'm white btw - screw being PC). They were hard working, intelligent individuals with excellent forsight into the inner workings of the company we worked for. The company slowly died because of greedy white people. If it had been left up to us economically challenged folk the company would be world wide by now. That's not to say that if black people were given the opportunity to hold those positions that they wouldn't do the same thing. We are all human and some of us are lazy parasites that live off others.

So when you see bad neighborhoods with dope dealers remember that they were left little choice on how to feed themselves and their families. And if you really want to even out your viewpoints come futher south. We have states full of white trash living in trailer parks. Sure they don't have the hostility as poor black people but then again they don't realize they are slaves whereas black people are intimately familiar with it.

I wish people would look at the reality of the situation instead of skin color. The reality that separates us is economic. And it is usually isn't the fault of the poor that they are poor. Those that were born into poor families knows this all too well. And it can be a real bitch to climb your way out of a hole you didn't dig.

My question is, would these people be against inter-racial relations if it was Michael Jordon that their daughter came home with?


EDIT: One more point. For several years, I lived in an area of Atlanta that was 86% black. I didn't worry about crime. I didn't worry about people stealing from me. Why? Because there were jobs and opportunity for everyone. If the jobs dry up, I don't care if you are purple, crime is going to increase and there will be less and less tax money to take care of the streets and infastructure. What do people think that black neighborhoods cause potholes? That the worker is the reason that smaller companies can't compete with monopolies? Do you seriously think that black people love living in poverty?


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posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 07:54 AM
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Good thoughts, CherubimsofFire. I appreciate your well thought out responses, and appreciate the view that you have, but, I gotta say that I don't totally agree. I do have some trouble accepting that women were made for man when we give birth to the men, but, that's for another debate. However, I will state that modern Bible translations were derived from the KJV, and, being as such, are highly sexist. If you go back and read the original Greek/Hebrew texts you will see what I am saying is true. Another issue is cannonization of the books of the Bible. In the Protestant text, many books were left out that the Vatican cannonized. Ever pick up a Catholic Bible? Note all the "extra books" in it, and read some of them. The books of Enoch (I think?) are really good. (Read and did a report on them for my Old Testament Survey class at Belmont U.)

I just have trouble swallowing the idea that God, being a loving God, really meant for us to be so concerned with skin tone, when, if you truly look at it, race is a product of the place you live in. Take for instance the eyes of some races. I'm not refering to the color, but to the classic shape and "slant". I believe that that comes from the geographics of the area they are from, not anything else. Also, where do the "blacks" come from? What is the geographical area like? Couldn't the skin tone be a result of the skin darkening to help ensure they won't end up being damaged by the sun? (Not meaning to sound offensive to any of the readers, just trying to make my thoughts make sense to you, as they do in my mind. If that is offensive to anyone, I appologize. Was not meant that way, so please don't take it that way.)

regs



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 09:11 AM
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I've gotta admit, I don't understand a lot of things about "racism".

First, I don't think most people can even agree on what it is. Even if you eliminate the deluded academics who say that only this race or that can even be racist, you will get people disagreeing on its aspects.

For example, if someone believes her race is better than others' and will do everything everything she can to advance her race at the expense of others', then I think everyone would agree that she is racist.

But if someone else believes that all races should have the same opportunity, but he prefers the company of people of his own race, is that person a racist? If so, that makes the proponents of historically black colleges, people who eat with people of their own race in the school or workplace cafeteria, the people who 'celebrate diversity', or the guy whio doesn't want his daughter marrying someone of a different race as "racists", too.

Or how about the scientists who would really like to investigate the possible correlations of performance/achievement -- physical and/or mental -- to race? I don't think anyone would argue that there is are statistically significant anatomical and physiological difference among the three main groups of people: caucasoids, negroids, and mongoloids (or whatever terminology you feel comfortable with). Cephalic indices, bone mass/body mass ratio, cross-sectional configuration of long bones, testosterone levels -- the list goes on and on.

Is there a correlation between anatomical/physiological difference and physical performance? Look at professional sports. Is there a difference between the statistically signficant differences in the levels of testosterone by race and a propensity to anti-social behavior and incarceration? How about correlatives with race and standardized tests? Is there bias in any of these correlatives? If so, what is its importance and criticality?

Obviously, scientists are constrained from even discussing such differences because of politically correctness. So are those scientists racist -- or are the ones who use politically-correct racism as an excuse to stop research the racists?

You tell me.

The point is: "racism" is in the eye of the beholder. "Racist" is a good all-round insult nowadays, and "racism" has supplanted "atheist", "communist", "jew" or "homosexual" as epitomizing a Bad Bad Person Indeed, and therefore has become a good reason to forbid association or cut off discourse among people afraid of what others may think.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 09:59 AM
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I would die for the racists right to speak.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 10:05 AM
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I think racism is a survival instinct held over and retained from earlier times. Before communication and "civilization", anything or anyone different was almost automatically bad from a survival point of view. This was probably the case for so long that the tendency to see things this way became part of our genetic makeup.

I'm not saying I approve of racism in any way. As with many other human traits, this one has lost its survival value because the social environment has changed much faster than our evolution could hope to keep up with. Racism is counter-productive at our present stage of development. The higher incidences of inter-racial marriages, along with the increased acceptance of it will wipe racism out. Eventually (100 - 300 years), almost everybody will have mixtures of all the races (if we don't already). Personally I know that in addition to my predominant southern european genes, I have some african, native american, and scottish genes as well.

However, that resolves the problem by removing the difference, not the instinct that makes us fear it. Once we are all perceived to be the roughly the same, we won't have to worry about racism again until we encounter some aliens.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 10:51 AM
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Racism is alive and well in America and it is always going to be around unless people openly talk about it and overcome there fears. I encounter racism every day and it is disgusting how dumb some people could be. I get called terrorist and made fun off on a daily basis people say things at my job like what are you going to blow up today and sh*t like that but I usually just play it off and say dumb things like nothing today there are no good targets. I get it from Blacks, Whites, and some Asians not allot. Spanish are the most accepting of all the races to me. Indians and Arabs they all look at me funny and look down at me because of the way I dress and speak and my culture. I am Indian from Trinidad by the way. Africans are another cool peoples with me actually looking at it now its mostly Americans White and Black who have a problem with me. I think America will never get over racism as long as things are segregated. You say segregation is no more in America well I am telling you that it’s still alive and well. My wife is Black American and she is the most wonderful person in the world.
I feel as though sometimes that America will split into 4 different Countries the west coast will be a Spanish country all of the Red states except for the south would be a White country the Southern States would become Black and the North East States would be Mixed. I know its off topic but that’s just how it is going to be if we don’t break down these barriers.

And one more thing just because someone has brown skin and is hairy does not MAKE HIM A F*CKING TERROIST!!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 11:45 AM
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Cherubimsfire Said:By Definition, RACIAL INTEGRATION= IMPAIRED(to diminish in strength, value; injured; damaged) state due to break-down of RACIAL INTEGRITY So once the races become integrated, they lose their integrity and become impaired.

Wow, you are seriously deluded my friend. I have heard this same story from other "christians" and it never fails to amaze me. The fact is, race mixing causes the best genes to be passed on and this cannot be disputed at all. People who spout views like yours are the most unthinking, irrationally paranoid folks I've ever encountered.


"Oh my God, what if everybody mixes races and then we all end up BROWN!" ...It's ridiculous because there will always be whites who breed with whites and blacks who breed with blacks...

You use the term "race-conscious" as if it's some kind of awakening that happens to someone... "I have become conscious of race! Praise God!" ...What a load of crap. Christ didn't say anything about race and yet you feel comfortable adding to his philosophy. You are following Paul's words, who similarly felt comfortable adding to Christ's words. You will be chastized for this when you do finally meet your God.



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posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 12:08 PM
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I have to comment after reading this one. I am an interacial person, my mother being black or creole, and my father being italian. Now my mother is beautiful, articulate, and the smartest woman I know.....it just so happens she's not white. I have uncles and cousins from that side of the family that are doctors, lawyers, psycologists....they all live in wonderful neighborhoods, make over 250k a year, etc. And they're all black!!
I got slack from both races growing up as a child.....and it only taught me to have tolerance for ignorance, and made me a more wordly person. I LOVE being mixed!! I can relate to almost anyone, and have a very open mind. What I'm getting at here is that everyone has trash in their race.
Like someone else on this post said about a bad black neighborhood.....well I have a bad white neighborhood just like that ten minutes away from me! All WHITE people.....cooking meth, doing meth, whoring....the whole nine yards!! I don't look down on the WHOLE white race for this small percentage of people. Blacks have their trash, Whites have their trash, Mexicans theirs....and so on.
For every "normal" white guy, I can show you a "normal" black guy.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 01:59 PM
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She would "disown" her daughter for becoming involved with a man of a different race. In my mind, this shows either a lack of true love for her daughter, or a deep seated hatred. I think, personally, that in this area it is a deep seated hatred.




My question is, would these people be against inter-racial relations if it was Michael Jordon that their daughter came home with?


The #1 reason for disowning ones' own due to interracial marriage is because these people, unlike you, hold the highest personal value on their race/culture and want to see their heritage preserved. Deep seated hatred is a reaction to someone of another race Threatening that preservation.
The personal character and or wealth of that someone does not matter.

This threat is no different from a person of a minority nation, defending his tribe to the death, from an onslaughting foreign force. Interracial marriage is a smarter, non-violent way of snuffing out a less numerous race in a given area. A prime example, Native American's. You must have a certain percentage of Native blood to be Federally recognized as a member to receive the Benefits( each member around 8-12 grande a month, large property, in my case the most expensive areas of San Diego!, tax exempt, special rights, I don't know the details). Now the less fortunate tribes, which I am of, that werent recognized on paper back in the day, have to go through Hell and back to become recognized. Its a waiting game for the Government, just act dumb and over time the blood will be so watered down that they won't have to pay up. I myself being 1/8 am evidence of this process. See even the U.S. government places importance on purity of blood; doesn't matter if the tribes' language/traditions/cultures survive. Without the blood, the tribe does NOT EXIST.




I do have some trouble accepting that women were made for man when we give birth to the men, but, that's for another debate. However, I will state that modern Bible translations were derived from the KJV, and, being as such, are highly sexist.



Then I guess you could say Christianitys' God is sexist for creating man first and in his image, and woman second, from adams' rib, as a "help meet(KJV)" I'm aware of the "extra books" I particularily like the book of Enoch.




Genesis 2:18 The LORD God said, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."





I just have trouble swallowing the idea that God, being a loving God, really meant for us to be so concerned with skin tone, when, if you truly look at it, race is a product of the place you live in.



Then what of God's chosen seed of Abraham?(the physical, besides the spiritual). Jesus was of THE Royal Bloodline of David, not just some average joe. I agree to a certain degree that genetic variation(size, shape of body/facial features, color of skin, eyes, hair etc.) Which God created, favors the physical traits that best cope with the persons environment, thus making those traits dominant.

Off_The_Street made a lot of good points; posed good questions.




I think racism is a survival instinct held over and retained from earlier times.



I agree with that statement, But not if your "earlier times" refers to man evolving from apes.




Wow, you are seriously deluded my friend.



What is delusional about that definition? Seems like a logical statement to me judging from the meaning of the words. Maybe I should have made myself clearer and said, the affect of Integration(3 a : to unite with something else b : to incorporate into a larger unit) on races is what I posted, RACIAL INTEGRATION= IMPAIRED(to diminish in strength, value; injured; damaged) state due to break-down of RACIAL INTEGRITY. This is a definition I found in a dictionary a while back, beleive it or not.




You use the term "race-conscious" as if it's some kind of awakening that happens to someone...



No, I'm sorry I did not make myself clear. What I ment by "race concious" was simply people who take notice to an individuals' race. I don't take this view as superior to people who don't take notice to race, I respect everyones opinion.




"Oh my God, what if everybody mixes races and then we all end up BROWN!" ...It's ridiculous because there will always be whites who breed with whites and blacks who breed with blacks...



I agree, but that still doesn't make interracial marriage okay with everyone.




Christ didn't say anything about race and yet you feel comfortable adding to his philosophy.



It was not my intention to seem like I was adding to his philosophy. I was intending to make a logical connection. I simply made the statement more specific to make my point. The woman is the Glory of Man. So I asked myself, ok what of the white man? what is the glory of the white man? The black woman? the asian woman? Can the union of two purely white people create a black woman, an asian woman? No, so the glory of the white race is the white woman.



posted on Mar, 13 2005 @ 03:20 PM
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The woman is the Glory of Man. So I asked myself, ok what of the white man? what is the glory of the white man? The black woman? the asian woman? Can the union of two purely white people create a black woman, an asian woman? No, so the glory of the white race is the white woman.

Yes, there are scriptures in the bible that portray women as second-class citizens. "man is the image and glory of God, but the WOMAN IS THE GLORY OF MAN" would be one of them, written by a sexist arse, namely Paul. Sad how so many people base their worship of CHRIST on what PAUL wrote. Paul hijacked Christianity. He was the Tony Robbins of his day. Notice that Jesus did not say this nor did he ever reduce women to an inferior position.

You are not a Christian. In any case, even if you prefer to worship Paul rather than Jesus, why do you make the verbal additions of colors to the language of that scripture? White, black, etc are not mentioned by Paul because he was obviously trying to creat a cult that didn't have those lines. Sure enough tho', the Paulites like you have found a way to do it.

Also, anybody new who comes in and starts posting on ATS regarding race and how race-mixing DEGRADES the human race is due to be flagged as one of the white-power twits that have been trying to degrade this whole forum. Do some reading Einstein and you'll find that race-mixed people are some of the better humans out there.



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