German state finance minister Thomas Schäfer commits suicide over worries of corona aftermath

a reply to: Xtrozero

That's the average age of people dying from covid in Germany. That's whom we protect, not?

originally posted by: Peeple

That's the average age of people dying from covid in Germany. That's whom we protect, not?

Yep it is, my point is none of them are working nor do they need to actually be in contact with others working outside of very few that support them directly as that group would garb up around them.

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: Peeple
This is way crazier than that. Death toll is only around 0.1% of those infected - or 2x what a regular flu kills Each year.

4.7% globally, as of now.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

4.7% globally, as of now.

4.7% of what?

a reply to: Peeple

A Finance Minister. Hmmm.... As the saying goes, “Follow the money”.

Maybe he found the true players that are benefiting from this covid 💩

#EpsteinDidntKillHimself

a reply to: burdman30ott6

Um, yes it does. 650,000 people per year (at the high end of "normal") die from plain old influenza. That's 1,800 per day, but since flu is seasonal and population is largely centered in the Northern Hemisphere where the season is generally only 4 months long, meaning some days of a normal year see several thousand or more deaths per day.

i am simply concerned because there are churches full of dead bodies in Itally does that normally happen with a flu out break.

Or so the Germans would have you believe....

Ehh?

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Um, yes it does. 650,000 people per year (at the high end of "normal") die from plain old influenza. That's 1,800 per day, but since flu is seasonal and population is largely centered in the Northern Hemisphere where the season is generally only 4 months long, meaning some days of a normal year see several thousand or more deaths per day.

i am simply concerned because there are churches full of dead bodies in Itally does that normally happen with a flu out break.

Look for the American Media to take those photos and use our USA reporting, like they did with the Italian emergency room videos last week.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: LordAhriman

4.7% globally, as of now.

4.7% of what?

Exactly. No one knows because some countries won't reveal their actual numbers and some aren't testing anymore. We'll never know how many people recovered that never had bad symptoms and were never checked. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

originally posted by: purplemer
a reply to: burdman30ott6

Um, yes it does. 650,000 people per year (at the high end of "normal") die from plain old influenza. That's 1,800 per day, but since flu is seasonal and population is largely centered in the Northern Hemisphere where the season is generally only 4 months long, meaning some days of a normal year see several thousand or more deaths per day.

i am simply concerned because there are churches full of dead bodies in Itally does that normally happen with a flu out break.

No, but then business generally rolls on as usual during the flu, business which includes funerals and such that aren't presently happening, causing a backlog of bodies.

originally posted by: HalWesten

Exactly. No one knows because some countries won't reveal their actual numbers and some aren't testing anymore. We'll never know how many people recovered that never had bad symptoms and were never checked. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

Well even if they give good known totals the actual numbers are are 5 to 10x more.

a reply to: purplemer
That figure is almost worthless with regard to the actual diagnosis of Covid 19, as many many people have died untested with similar symptoms so presumed to be Covid 19

These are the statistics for England & Wales excesss winter deaths from the Office of National Statistics

"Respiratory diseases remained the leading cause of EWM in 2018 to 2019, with 48.2% (8,900 excess winter deaths (EWD)) and 39.6% (600 EWD) more respiratory deaths in the winter months compared with the non-winter months in England and Wales respectively. This accounted for 40.6% of all EWD in England and 42.9% of all EWD in Wales. The EWM index for respiratory diseases was statistically significantly lower than the two previous periods in both countries.

Of these excess respiratory deaths, pneumonia (defined as ICD-10 codes J12 to J18) accounted for the largest proportions, making up 34.8% of total excess respiratory deaths in England and 50.0% in Wales. During 2018 to 2019, there were 47.7% (3,100 EWD) more pneumonia deaths in the winter period than the non-winter period in England, and 50.9% (300 EWD) more deaths in the winter period in Wales."

In 2017/2018 there were over 50,000 deaths but I saw no national outcry no media alarm nothing but influenza is also contagious as is bacterial pneumonia but no-one to my knowledge at least, has been instructed to isolate wear protective clothing etc etc

As you can see many more people die throughout the winter with varying symptoms such as pneumonia which have been attributed to Covid 19, and yet have we ever had this kind of response from our Government every winter? Nope these people are allowed to die as it is acceptable apparently.

I am NOT saying Covid 19 is flu let me make that clear, what I am saying is that as of today, the hype and reaction far far outweighs the facts & figures, at the moment.

There are also many eminent doctors specialists and scientists questioning the absurd reaction/over-reaction to this virus such as Dr Eran Bendavid & Dr Jay Battachyra of Stanford University who have stated that there is little evidence to confirm the projected death rates currently circulating the globe. Please read for further details
Stanford University

The International Journal of Infectious diseases stated, in 2019 the following regarding Italy

In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%. • More than 68,000 deaths attributable to flu epidemics were estimated in the study period. • Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

Again, the figures being attributed to Covid 19 deaths could just as easily be attributed to other things given northern Italy's consistant death rate each winter. Its not the disease I'm doubting but the statistics and method of determination as many hospitals have stated "death by covid 19" when a patient dies of pneumona or resporatory failure.

a reply to: Peeple

They know its going to last longer. They are slowly getting used to the idea of a prolonged effort against this virus.

There are now confirmed second infections of recovered people. Opening back up would almost guarantee steamrolling the virus to Spanish Flu levels of infection and disruption to normal life.

We are now in a situation that their best made prior long term plans and our best hopes prior to all this are limited and shaped by mother nature and fate. Destiny is on hold.

a reply to: purplemer
1700 people dead would be a normal average day of mortality in Italy. Heart disease, Cancer and respiratory illness would be the tops of that list. Guess where corona family of viruses would fall under? Respiratory illness, you guessed it. And considering there were two Italian Journalists at Bilderberg 2019, I would not doubt this was part of their plan.

Feltri, Stefano (ITA), Deputy Editor-in-Chief, Il Fatto Quotidiano. That newspaper was an independent daily paper that was formed to stay off of public/state funding, the kind of agency that would likely not regurgitate the exact lines that MSM would for their people. Well, if they were allowed to the Bilderberg meeting, that independence is now gone.

Editors for Bloomberg and the Economist were there, and so too various other G8 media reps.
The AI division of Google (Depp Mind), Eric Schmidt himself of Alphabet, Renzi, Matteo (ITA), Former Prime Minister; Senator, Senate of the Italian Republic .

The leadership and media of Italy were given their orders last year at Bilderberg.

Just visit the thread and look at your nations reps that visited Bilderberg, then start thinking outside of the box.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: HalWesten

Exactly. No one knows because some countries won't reveal their actual numbers and some aren't testing anymore. We'll never know how many people recovered that never had bad symptoms and were never checked. Anyone who says otherwise is delusional.

Well even if they give good known totals the actual numbers are are 5 to 10x more.

Where are you getting that number? I haven't seen anyone outside of fear-mongers saying that.

a reply to: purplemer
and you have seen these churches full of dead bodies and have images??? Because the internet could not keep a video of mass murder at a New Zealand mosque from circulation, but dead bodies piled in Italian churches can be scrubbed?

Did any of those claims originate in any media connected to the Italian media reps at the Bilderberg 2019 conference?

I can still find you a video to prove the claim of the mass shooter in New Zealand despite attempts at cencorship, I cannot find a single image of bodies piled anywhere in Italy, let alone churches.

The Newspaper, L'Eco di Bergamo, that allegedly had an allegedly unusually higher number of obituaries is owned by a Catholic Diocese. Having a former Italian Prime Minister and current Senator at the Bilderberg certainly had no influence on state funded media carrying an official story to further the goals of the likes of the people who were at the 2019 Bilderberg.

I can say with strong instinct that this current psychological operation was discussed and agreed upon at the 2019 Bilderberg. Its the why noone has answered yet, unless this is actually the push for cashless society/mark of the beast. I don't know if thats really where we are, or if this is just an attempt to hold on to the power the biggest players in this group wrestled away from independent countries after 1973.

Deviation from the established narrative is dangerous. People get to call you crazy and crazy doesn't have any rights.

originally posted by: LordAhriman

originally posted by: deckdel
a reply to: Peeple
This is way crazier than that. Death toll is only around 0.1% of those infected - or 2x what a regular flu kills Each year.

4.7% globally, as of now.

At present, it is tempting to estimate the Covid-19 case fatality rate by dividing the number of known deaths by the number of confirmed cases. The resulting number, however, does not represent the true case fatality rate and might be off by orders of magnitude [...]

A precise estimate of the case fatality rate is therefore impossible at present.

From: www.worldometers.info...

a reply to: HelloboysImbackguy
The early days of the H1N1 virus had re-infections too.

From 2009: www.virology.ws...

Reinfections occur with many viruses..including the Flu.

originally posted by: Xtrozero
4.7% of what?

Globally, 4.7% of positive tested patients have died. It's for sure lower than that, because not all sick people go to the doctor, but that is the percentage of people who have tested positive, who have died. It's likely changed by now, because these numbers change all day long.