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'This is a war': NYC doctors describe fight against coronavirus as cases surge

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posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:04 PM
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Wow, this is crazy!


“Our hospital has never, ever, ever seen anything like this,” one doctor said.

Overfilled waiting rooms packed with people who are contagious. Patients waiting six hours to be seen. Others on stretchers waiting 50 to 60 hours for a bed. Doctors desperately trying to get more ventilators. That is what it’s like to be on the front lines of the coronavirus pandemic at a public hospital in New York City, Dr. Rikki Lane, an emergency room doctor at the Elmhurst Hospital Center in Queens, said.


www.nbcnews.com...

This is directly tied to the low .025% recovery rate. It's the only explanation.

People aren't dying at high rates but they're using healthcare for an extended period of time. There's no way a few thousand cases would overwhelm Hospitals like this.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:28 PM
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a reply to: neoholographic

.025 recovery rate? Source? Man this site is turning in to MSM’s side hustle....



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:46 PM
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It was worse in 2009 in 6 months there were FAR more hospitalized than this current “pandemic” and we survived it without collapsing the globe.

Two seasons ago was just as bad as current if not worse and we survived

Do people just listen to the news??? Or do they fact check and use their brain to investigate? Isn’t this sites motto “deny ignorance”



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:48 PM
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I just heard that instead of preparing for terrorist attacks, New York wasted billions of dollars on projects that went nowhere.

A minor biological terrorist attack would destroy New York City for example.

Very sad, considering that New York City is the number one priority Target in America of Global terrorists.
edit on 3/26/2020 by carewemust because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:50 PM
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There are a lot of people in New York, most of them did not quarantine at all at first, the governor just locked down a few small places. The problem is that so many infected people go through New York, it is a major hub to China and Italy. A lot of people go through that airport, so workers got infected, and spread it fast.

Most people did not realize it was going to be like this, you cannot blame anyone for early disregaurd of precautions. It happened all over the world, everyone saying oh that won't happen to us. Human Nature

The big thing now is to try to help those who need help, and these Hospitals and organizations need to be accountable and reasonable with the money they get or it can cause America great harm. There are some who will blow a thousand bucks on something they could get for a hundred bucks if they have an open checkbook. Also, Hospitals should not be getting in bidding wars with other hospitals over supplies, reasonable amounts should be ordered so every hospital gets what they need when they need it. Hopefully supply meets needs in three or four weeks. Hopefully the drug combo they got works well, it won't help everyone, but it can help many.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:51 PM
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I guess opening their arms to all illegal immigrants that can make it to the city over the past decade could have exacerbated this issue. since the bulk of the funding went to supporting these people instead of the health care system.

Shame New York...you built that.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:51 PM
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a reply to: carewemust

Irony; especially after 2001



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:57 PM
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yep the golden year of big pharma !!! dealers of death… money first

Roche refused to give the gov's the recipie for the testfluid so the country's can produce moore corona tests.. bah bah bah making money over the dead body's



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 02:58 PM
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With 30% of hospitalised cases requiring critical care, we obtain an overall mean duration of hospitalisation of 10.4 days, slightly shorter than the duration from hospital admission to discharge observed for COVID-19 cases internationally13 (who will have remained in hospital longer to ensure negative tests at discharge) but in line with estimates for general pneumonia admissions14.


Impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) to reduce COVID19 mortality and healthcare demand (direct .pdf link)

From another post of mine elsewhere:


originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
As of this post, there are 266 cases in the greater Houston area, of which 28 are hospitalized. That yields a 10.5% rate of hospitalization for our area.


...there are more than 85 hospitals in the Houston area with more than 19,300 beds, including those in TMC.


About Houstom - Health


With a population of 6,997,384 people as of 2018 census estimates,


Greater Houston - Wikipedia

19,300 is approximately 10.5% of 183809.

183,809 is approximately 2.62% of 6,997,384.

If a little more than two and a half percent of the population of the Greater Houston area contracts the virus and approximately 10.5% of those require hospitalization as has been the trend thus far, the Greater Houston area will have had its healthcare system maxed out.

That is if we kick out everyone in a hospital bed now.



1point3acres

In the US, more than twice as many have died as have recovered; recovery takes weeks.

As ketsuko said way back, if this thing is going to kill you, it will do so faster than it will take you to recover; if you recover.


Do the numbers for New York and see if this is being hyped up.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 03:05 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

correct and the poor who survived the I.C are having an great risk to be dis-abeled for the rest of there lives…
ventilating lungs for an long period destroyes the lungs….
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posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: jadedANDcynical

The R0 was just updated by the newest thread; meaning 100-1000x more people have had this, recovered, and not been added to the list of statistics....

Updated model shows virus to be less serious



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: jadedANDcynical

The R0 was just updated by the newest thread; meaning 100-1000x more people have had this, recovered, and not been added to the list of statistics....

Updated model shows virus to be less serious


It's as good of a guess as the first number. I know people in Missouri, Kansas, and California currently treating COVID-19 patients, and they describe it as something out of a horror movie. We also surpassed Italy in total cases today, because #MuhFreedom, and we'll surpass China tomorrow at the very latest.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand


It was worse in 2009 in 6 months there were FAR more hospitalized than this current “pandemic” and we survived it without collapsing the globe.

Two seasons ago was just as bad as current if not worse and we survived

Do people just listen to the news??? Or do they fact check and use their brain to investigate? Isn’t this sites motto “deny ignorance”


Most locations in the continental US are less than a month into their first case.

But go ahead and compare that to ENTIRE YEARS' worth of flu cases.

Maybe once we pass that number, next week you can switch to comparing to gun deaths or vehicle accidents.

Your confirmation bias... confirms your bias.



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 04:23 PM
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originally posted by: LordAhriman
we'll surpass China tomorrow at the very latest.


Well that was quick.




posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 06:12 PM
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originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand


It was worse in 2009 in 6 months there were FAR more hospitalized than this current “pandemic” and we survived it without collapsing the globe.

Two seasons ago was just as bad as current if not worse and we survived

Do people just listen to the news??? Or do they fact check and use their brain to investigate? Isn’t this sites motto “deny ignorance”


Those are estimates, I blame the CDC for all the flu comparisons undermining this situation.

In that same link it shows from April to October 17 2009 (~5 months) the USA had 17,283 hospitalizations and 1,004 deaths.

Compare those to the current figures for Covid-19: 1,201 deaths in the last month, 2 months since the first confirmed case. Hospitalization stats are harder to find, but it is at least 5,327 in New York alone. www.propublica.org...
edit on 26-3-2020 by Aptom90 because: added year 2009



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 06:40 PM
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yea its over 82 k now and notice over 1 k deaths 2 k critical USA has finly became number one in something again .
Here si hoping we are NOT number one in deaths



posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: Graysen

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand


It was worse in 2009 in 6 months there were FAR more hospitalized than this current “pandemic” and we survived it without collapsing the globe.

Two seasons ago was just as bad as current if not worse and we survived

Do people just listen to the news??? Or do they fact check and use their brain to investigate? Isn’t this sites motto “deny ignorance”


Most locations in the continental US are less than a month into their first case.

But go ahead and compare that to ENTIRE YEARS' worth of flu cases.

Maybe once we pass that number, next week you can switch to comparing to gun deaths or vehicle accidents.

Your confirmation bias... confirms your bias.

Ok , check into the flu for the same time frame.
You will be surprised....
You will be shocked.
Take Atlanta , Ga . 2018-2019
No , just Atlanta , Ga, alone.
One city.
Ignorance denied.





posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 08:57 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Graysen

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand


It was worse in 2009 in 6 months there were FAR more hospitalized than this current “pandemic” and we survived it without collapsing the globe.

Two seasons ago was just as bad as current if not worse and we survived

Do people just listen to the news??? Or do they fact check and use their brain to investigate? Isn’t this sites motto “deny ignorance”


Most locations in the continental US are less than a month into their first case.

But go ahead and compare that to ENTIRE YEARS' worth of flu cases.

Maybe once we pass that number, next week you can switch to comparing to gun deaths or vehicle accidents.

Your confirmation bias... confirms your bias.

Ok , check into the flu for the same time frame.
You will be surprised....
You will be shocked.
Take Atlanta , Ga . 2018-2019
No , just Atlanta , Ga, alone.
One city.
Ignorance denied.




I'm confused about your point. I looked up Atlanta 2018-2019 and there were 145 deaths that YEAR and that was an exceptionally bad year. NYC has had almost 400 deaths in about 2 weeks and 40K people are sick (to my knowledge they are not testing people who aren't sick - not enough tests).

Here's an article about Atlanta
www.ajc.com...



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