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Christ is God who came down to be seen, physically
Satan fell,,was cast out, hides
Jesus did follow the Hebrew Mosaic law
Jesus healed and forgave sin
There is a New Testament covenant
There is a Old Testament covenant
Do you understand that
Christ is coming again, there will be blood, violence and war
It has to all end.
It’s not going to be pretty
The Old Testament God was loving, caring and concerned. War was His last choice.
Go read Jonah, many books show God not wanting to harm people
Today many people, complain God doesn’t, didn’t stop the Nazis, Stalin, ISIS, evil, then complain in the Old Testament when God did stop evil empires
LOL this is easy to close down, who did the "Christ" see fall from heaven?
The teachings of Jesus were not like Lucifers actions.
I see no connection between lucifer and Yashua.
Though associated with Satanism, a philosophy based on the Christian interpretation of the fallen angel, Luciferianism differs in that it does not revere merely the devil figure or Satan but the broader figure of Lucifer, an entity representing various interpretations of "the morning star" as understood by ancient cultures such as the Greeks and Egyptians. In this context, Lucifer is a symbol of enlightenment, independence, and human progression and is often used interchangeably with similar figures from ancient beliefs, such as the Greek titan Prometheus or the Jewish Talmudic figure Lilith.
Luciferians generally support the protection of the natural world. Both the arts and sciences are crucial to human development and thus both are cherished. Luciferians think that humans should be focused on this life and how to make the most of it every single day. The ability to recognize both good and evil, to accept that all actions have both positive and negative consequences, and to actively influence one's environment is a key factor.
The Luciferian philosophy in recent years has been defined in a collective foundation, known as the "11 Luciferian Points of Power", authored by Michael W. Ford. The basis of Luciferian philosophy cultivates and encourages individuality, self-determined choices based on strategic application and continually seeking to enhance the Will via overcoming challenges. Luciferianism is philosophically practiced with the continual cycle and process known as Liberation, Illumination and Apotheosis.
For Luciferians, enlightenment is the ultimate goal. The basic Luciferian principles highlight truth and freedom of will, worshipping the inner self and one's ultimate potential. Traditional dogma is shunned as a basis for morality on the grounds that humans should not need deities or fear of eternal punishment to distinguish right from wrong and to do good. All ideas should be tested before being accepted, and even then one should remain skeptical because knowledge and understanding are fluid. Regardless of whether Lucifer is conceived of as a deity or as a mere archetype, he is a representation of ultimate knowledge and exploration as well as humanity's savior and a champion for continuing personal growth.
et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris.
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
If you don’t even understand there are 2 covenants, well that reflects poorly on everything else you argue
Satan is never referred to as Lucifer in the Bible
originally posted by: lightofgratitude
The similarity is that many Christians believe that they both came down from Heaven as light and claimed to be God.
I hope this isn't too off-topic, but in 2 Peter 1:19, in the old Latin Vulgate Bible, it uses the word "Lucifer" in reference to Jesus Christ and and to "Satan".
Seems to me you are just taking things out of context and creating similarities tat either don't exist or are meaningless.
Dahmer and Ghandi are similar. They are both human.
originally posted by: Specimen88
I'm having some difficulty at what you are trying to convey here.
Well that's thing about the O.t an the timing around when the N.t, the name or title of Luicfer did not really exist.
The idea of Luicfer might of an was based primarily on Satan, but probably been around prior and might correlate to another, Prince of Air.
Thing is though it almost like the Satan an Lucifer are two entirely different characters, symbolically.
all the while being a believer an trying to separate the n.t from the old.
2 Peter 1:19 wasn't written in Hebrew. The oldest texts are in Greek and uses the Greek version of the name Lucifer is "Phosphoros". The Latin Vulgate uses the Latin version of the name "Lucifer". Both means "Light-Bearer" in their respective languages and both are titles for "The Morning Star". 2 Peter 1:19 refers to Jesus Christ as (Lucifer/Phosphoros/The Morning Star), not the devil.