So far it’s been a lame pandemic

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Liquesence

Since everybody's working together so well, maybe states with very few cases can lend some of their resources and supplies to the few states that are getting hit hard.

What happens when those states/cities need them (and they will)?

Or maybe the federal government can do its job. That's what it's for.

No matter what Trump's federal government does, there will be certain Governors who say the government is doing a horrible job.

The governor of California has not been interviewed by CNN or MSNBC over the past 3 weeks, because he says the Trump Administration is giving California everything it needs.

a reply to: carewemust

The Big Three car makers, and the DoD are producing PPE and equipment for hospitals. Everything from ventilators to masks, and everything in between.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Liquesence

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Liquesence

Since everybody's working together so well, maybe states with very few cases can lend some of their resources and supplies to the few states that are getting hit hard.

What happens when those states/cities need them (and they will)?

Or maybe the federal government can do its job. That's what it's for.

No matter what Trump's federal government does, there will be certain Governors who say the government is doing a horrible job.

The governor of California has not been interviewed by CNN or MSNBC over the past 3 weeks, because he says the Trump Administration is giving California everything it needs.

California is not in the current situation New York is.

The need for emergency medical supplies should not be a you do for me I do for you from the federal government.

The federal government should get off its ass and take this seriously. Period.

Governors see their states as their fiefdom. They do not want the Federal government to intervine in their state affairs. But when their state is drowning in debt and are run incompetently -like Illinois and California - they want the Federal government to help bail them out , while still being jerks. Aka Pritzker and Cumo. They can’t have it both ways. They create their own mess. Let them fix it. a reply to: Liquesence

a reply to: Zaphod58

The Big Three car makers, and the DoD are producing PPE and equipment for hospitals.

Are they actually doing so? Reports vary.

a reply to: Phage

They haven't started yet, but they're ramping up. DoD is releasing 5 million masks, and other PPE equipment, and the Big Three are partnering with manufacturers. It'll take a few weeks to get started, so technically they aren't YET, but they will be.

a reply to: Zaphod58

Good.
In a few weeks it's likely some places will be in dire straits and assuredly so for others.

www.worldometers.info...

The USA death rate continues to fall little by little. When it gets down below 1%, America will reopen for business. Right now it is at 1.3%.

a reply to: carewemust

The USA death rate continues to fall little by little.

The numbers mean little while there are a significant number of unresolved cases. There are more and more of those.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: TacoLoco75

Let them fix it.

And if they can't?

Should the federal government simply ignore them, to refuse to help them if they ask, or do its job by stepping up to ensure the well-being of its citizens?

a reply to: Zaphod58

I'll just leave this here.

www.redstate.com...

Has anyone calculated the number of deaths from cancelled routine physical and dental check-ups?

Or the number of deaths because family members can no longer check in on their relatives in care homes (If you ever had anyone in a care home you know how important this is)

How many people lost their health insurance when they lost their job - or will lose their job

One study found that in 2000 133,000 died to individual-level poverty - just as many as heart attacks
www.sciencedaily.com...

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Phage

They haven't started yet, but they're ramping up. DoD is releasing 5 million masks, and other PPE equipment, and the Big Three are partnering with manufacturers. It'll take a few weeks to get started, so technically they aren't YET, but they will be.

We received warnings in January from other countries and a plethora of infectious disease experts. Why did it take until the end of March to do anything. There were tens-of-millions of sets of PPE in govt warehouses in January. They get pumps in place before the hurricane hits. Why the delay in critical equipment? My daughter's unit has been designated he hospital's COVID isolation unit. The entire hospital has one box (as of Monday) of faceshield/masks left. WTF?

a reply to: jtma508

Because, as was stated in a book about a pandemic that hit scarily close to this, everyone forgets the "emergency" in their emergency plans. It was assumed that if it did hit here then we'd be able to ramp up production, or get what we needed elsewhere. When it hit everywhere at once, everyone freaked out and ran around like chickens without heads.

a reply to: Zaphod58
You've been reading Ringo again.

a reply to: JIMC5499

We have it on audio. As soon as word of this hit, we put it on again.

a reply to: Zaphod58

It should be required reading now.

a reply to: JIMC5499

It's almost scary how dead on he hit with that book.

originally posted by: Aallanon
USA 35,000 cases 400 dead 1% fatality rate

WW 350,000 cases 15,000 dead 4% fatality rate

They ruined my life for this?

I edited this post to reflect the correct percentages.

We haven't even begun the death toll ...

originally posted by: SeektoUnderstand
a reply to: LordAhriman

The US has 981,000 beds roughly

Italy has 180,000

Hospital beds stats

Math and critical thinking seems to escape the populace more and more

So I’m not arguing with you... but the U.S. has 5.33X the population of Italy (60M v. 327M), with an Elder population about 20% less than theirs. So we have roughly the same amount of beds per capita, and the same goes for ICU beds.

This said, it is also about where the outbreaks occur, as if half your beds are in the East, and half in the west, but your population is split 65%/35%, then the area that has higher density is more likely to reach critical mass. It’s not like we would transfer mass groups of virus stricken peoples to less infected areas, even if it lightened the burden.