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Will Trump supporters who said dont question lockdown now turn on trump for questioning lockdown?

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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:32 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
So I have made several thread and particpated in several more lambasting our government, including trump, for destorying the economy and locking huge parts of the country down without answerung basic questions.

See the questions on the top part of the OP for a just a few we should have all demanded they answer.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


For my stance of demanding answers to basic questions before destroying the economy and locking people down, here are just a few things my fellow trump supporters have said about me



I am a secret democrat and always have been

I am shilling for the media

I am a never trumper

I want to see old people die

I am just taking my stance to get more viewers on my youtube channel

I dont understand math

It would be bad for trump to go against state governors.


And on and on. All of this for questioning destroying the economy and locking people down




Well some other people have questioned whteher or not this loss of civil liberties and destroying the economy was worth it. Ron Paul, nah all the trump supporters criticizing nme say he sucks. Same ith his son Rand


Well now a new politician is questioning it.

The mans name? Donald Trump


Only hours before the surgeon general’s dire warning, Trump suggested in a tweet that the remedies may be more harmful than the outbreak in a tweet that contradicted the advice of medical experts across the nation.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he wrote, adding: “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”


apnews.com...


I cant wait for the same trump supporters who said those things of me to come here and say them of trump for questioning this.

He must want sick people to die, right? he must not be able to do math! He shouldnt question state governors. He must be a secret democrat never trumper, right?



Trump would be right to do what he can to reverse the damage, but as far as Im concerned its and admission of indefensible negligence on his part. The time for asking these questions and giving answers to the american people was BEFORE the lockdowns and crashing of the economy.



But hey, this is better than leaving it go on (as far as I am concerned this is all bluster though until he actually changes course)


But hes questioning whether the solution is worse than the problem, and trump supporters on this verty site have attacked me for that same thing, so lets see them come out here and call out trump.

I wont hold my breath.


You sound bitter because you either lost your business or lost a ton of money in stocks...guess what bud...so did everyone else. We will move past this and see a great recovery and that recovery will be lead by Trump




posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:32 AM
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a reply to: DBCowboy


Isn't it obvious?

Trump hates the president.


I think you might actually be on to something.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:33 AM
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a reply to: Grambler
Buddy you have certainly not seen a single typed response from me supporting any kind of lockdown. I'm a survival of the fittest type, so k say we all just go aroundthaving covid-19 parties and get the # over with. Than we can focus on real killers, like heart disease, cancer, Malaria or the other respitory illnesses which alone claim over ten million humans on Earth. But you know, we love to see sick ppl did.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:34 AM
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OP is right



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:35 AM
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Man it's a good thing I've been staying away from ATS.

Meltdowns left and right. I knew this country was too fragile to handle a real emergency.

You're all proving it every day.
edit on 3 23 2020 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:36 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Like I posted earlier,my state is going full lockdown tonight!
My thinking, right now,is that this is necessary in order to slow
the spread.Trust me when I say that I will be keeping an eye
on this scenario and see how it goes.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

God I wish we had the balls to just let big events cull the corporate landscape so we're better off in the future for the next "unforseen" dilemma.

That or we'll just keep doing ten year bull rides till we crash... Spending trillions just to throw a band aid on a gunshot wound.

Just wait till people find out about the corporate bonds, subprime lending in emerging markets by US backed banks.... Ect ect.

We didn't, and may never l learn our lesson. Not as long as corporations think (rightfully so based on recent history) they can gamble everything and just put the hand out to mommy goberments when they made a no no.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:38 AM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
No mater what side your on grambler is one of the most respected members of ats. we should listen to what he has to say.


Yeah well all I hear right now from him is whaaa whaaa whaaa



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:39 AM
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a reply to: Grambler

Do we really need three threads on this nonsense?...all three the same threads same subject same OP.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
No mater what side your on grambler is one of the most respected members of ats. we should listen to what he has to say.


Yeah well all I hear right now from him is whaaa whaaa whaaa


Guy who claims I am whining immediately follows up with


Do we really need three threads on this nonsense?...all three the same threads same subject same OP. gomods


Hahahaha!



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:42 AM
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a reply to: projectvxn

I'm not in a meltdown,I'm just mad at myself for waiting
too long to leave.I seem to be stuck where I really don't
want to be in this type of situation.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:44 AM
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originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Grambler

Do we really need three threads on this nonsense?...all three the same threads same subject same OP.


How communist of you to want to limit people criticizing the government.




posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:46 AM
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originally posted by: Oathkeeper73

originally posted by: Grambler
So I have made several thread and particpated in several more lambasting our government, including trump, for destorying the economy and locking huge parts of the country down without answerung basic questions.

See the questions on the top part of the OP for a just a few we should have all demanded they answer.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


For my stance of demanding answers to basic questions before destroying the economy and locking people down, here are just a few things my fellow trump supporters have said about me



I am a secret democrat and always have been

I am shilling for the media

I am a never trumper

I want to see old people die

I am just taking my stance to get more viewers on my youtube channel

I dont understand math

It would be bad for trump to go against state governors.


And on and on. All of this for questioning destroying the economy and locking people down




Well some other people have questioned whteher or not this loss of civil liberties and destroying the economy was worth it. Ron Paul, nah all the trump supporters criticizing nme say he sucks. Same ith his son Rand


Well now a new politician is questioning it.

The mans name? Donald Trump


Only hours before the surgeon general’s dire warning, Trump suggested in a tweet that the remedies may be more harmful than the outbreak in a tweet that contradicted the advice of medical experts across the nation.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he wrote, adding: “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”


apnews.com...


I cant wait for the same trump supporters who said those things of me to come here and say them of trump for questioning this.

He must want sick people to die, right? he must not be able to do math! He shouldnt question state governors. He must be a secret democrat never trumper, right?



Trump would be right to do what he can to reverse the damage, but as far as Im concerned its and admission of indefensible negligence on his part. The time for asking these questions and giving answers to the american people was BEFORE the lockdowns and crashing of the economy.



But hey, this is better than leaving it go on (as far as I am concerned this is all bluster though until he actually changes course)


But hes questioning whether the solution is worse than the problem, and trump supporters on this verty site have attacked me for that same thing, so lets see them come out here and call out trump.

I wont hold my breath.


You sound bitter because you either lost your business or lost a ton of money in stocks...guess what bud...so did everyone else. We will move past this and see a great recovery and that recovery will be lead by Trump


You sound like a person who doesnt care if the economy collapses and many people like small businesses owners will be forced to shut doors forever.

As long as you are doing ok, who cares if other people suffer, right?



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:47 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
No mater what side your on grambler is one of the most respected members of ats. we should listen to what he has to say.


Yeah well all I hear right now from him is whaaa whaaa whaaa


Guy who claims I am whining immediately follows up with


Do we really need three threads on this nonsense?...all three the same threads same subject same OP. gomods


Hahahaha!



Whaaa



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:48 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
So I have made several thread and particpated in several more lambasting our government, including trump, for destorying the economy and locking huge parts of the country down without answerung basic questions.

See the questions on the top part of the OP for a just a few we should have all demanded they answer.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


For my stance of demanding answers to basic questions before destroying the economy and locking people down, here are just a few things my fellow trump supporters have said about me



I am a secret democrat and always have been

I am shilling for the media

I am a never trumper

I want to see old people die

I am just taking my stance to get more viewers on my youtube channel

I dont understand math

It would be bad for trump to go against state governors.


And on and on. All of this for questioning destroying the economy and locking people down




Well some other people have questioned whteher or not this loss of civil liberties and destroying the economy was worth it. Ron Paul, nah all the trump supporters criticizing nme say he sucks. Same ith his son Rand


Well now a new politician is questioning it.

The mans name? Donald Trump


Only hours before the surgeon general’s dire warning, Trump suggested in a tweet that the remedies may be more harmful than the outbreak in a tweet that contradicted the advice of medical experts across the nation.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he wrote, adding: “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”


apnews.com...


I cant wait for the same trump supporters who said those things of me to come here and say them of trump for questioning this.

He must want sick people to die, right? he must not be able to do math! He shouldnt question state governors. He must be a secret democrat never trumper, right?



Trump would be right to do what he can to reverse the damage, but as far as Im concerned its and admission of indefensible negligence on his part. The time for asking these questions and giving answers to the american people was BEFORE the lockdowns and crashing of the economy.



But hey, this is better than leaving it go on (as far as I am concerned this is all bluster though until he actually changes course)


But hes questioning whether the solution is worse than the problem, and trump supporters on this verty site have attacked me for that same thing, so lets see them come out here and call out trump.

I wont hold my breath.


Do you suggest we vote for Biden now? Are you in with Max Boot who claims if Hillary had won everything would be better in regard to this?

I am personally fine with anyone complaining about whatever, but I am not sure what your point is with all of this.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:49 AM
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originally posted by: underwerks

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: Grambler

Do we really need three threads on this nonsense?...all three the same threads same subject same OP.


How communist of you to want to limit people criticizing the government.



He can do so in his other two threads of the same exact OP, no need to split this OP into three threads bud I digress



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:51 AM
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originally posted by: projectvxn
Man it's a good thing I've been staying away from ATS.

Meltdowns left and right. I knew this country was too fragile to handle a real emergency.

You're all proving it every day.


Clearly this country is too fragile to handle a real emergency.

There's a vote for a multi trillion dollar bill that does very little to address the said emergency. In fact... I'd say it's throwing gas onto a fire in hopes it runs out of oxygen.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: mamabeth
a reply to: projectvxn

I'm not in a meltdown,I'm just mad at myself for waiting
too long to leave.I seem to be stuck where I really don't
want to be in this type of situation.


To a degree, so am I. I intend to move to the country at least an hour or more by car from a major city.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:52 AM
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a reply to: Fools

No my criticism of trump was he is now acting more like the democrats, authoritarian socialists. I would never vote for them.

Let me reverse the question; if democrats now tell us we need to lockdown people over a threat that can kills tens of thousands, say guns, will we now blindly accept it without criticism because to question it means lives will be jeopardized?



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: Flavian

No pretty much everyone in support that i am referncing in the op has been saying its immoral to question if the lockdown was necessary


Again, I never said it wasnt, I said we should weigh the harms of destroying the economy and infringing on our rights against the virus, and therefore we should have basic questions answered before we accepted it.

We never got those answers, and the people I am referencing said all of the things i mentioned in the op about me because i dared to demand they be answered before this actions was taken

so please explain to me how the situation has changed that its now ok for trump to question it?

We


I never said it was immoral.

Yes, I think people who advocated for no social distancing, to keep on with life as usual, to go to public places and swap airborne particles were being total jerks, who didn't realize that their activities had an underlying current of they don't give a rats behind if grandma and grandpa die.

It has to end, we all knew that. I don't know anyone who advocated for permanent lockdown.

However, when it does end, it will proliferate as all viruses do when groups are allowed to gather again.

I and my 60 plus friends will continue to self-isolate (but many on ATS also have a HUGE problem with that and relentlessly badger us for doing so as idiots)

I will self-isolate as long as the virus is roaming free among the "strong" as someone else said and also said the virus culls the "weak" for the good of everyone.

Yes, it has to end, I expect it will, and before it stops killing people. As summer approaches, it should die down naturally a little and so it is more logical to stop the self isolation.

But apparently the OP has trouble with logic and trouble understanding that Trump never intended to lock everyone in their house forever. That's what TDS does to people, take away logical thinking.

I however, as an over 60 fresh out of major surgery and my 86 year old Mom, will probably continue to self-isolate until there are no more cases in our area, and almost none left in the hospital within a good distance. Call me crazy, even though I am in the group that many on ATS (liberals/progressives/Democrats with TDS, and deniers) have said they want culled, I prefer to live thank you very much. My daughter needs my help with her children since she and her husband work full time.

But for young people who the virus is NOT designed to do much harm to, let them free once the spread appears to be ending. That is logical and to be expected.



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