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originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: CriticalStinker
Of course its not just trumps fault.
The media, the dems, they all want MORE infringement of our rights.
I call them all out
But the real danger is when the very people that claim to be the most small government people and against infringements of rights, and that cheer on small businesses and their importance now totally do a 180 in a week cause trump did.
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: StoutBroux
no offense to you but you are about the fifth person I have responded to suggesting our rights arent being taken away.
I could tell you how my friend who owns a business no longer has the right to keep it open. I could post a link showing a man in my state was arrested for having a wedding on his property because it violated social distancing rules from the governor. I could post stories how california police are sending drones out to catch people who violate the lockdown.
But instead Ill just say that if you dont see any violation of our rights on this situation, there is no point in us having a discussion.
Trump secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial? Yeah right. Source?
originally posted by: underwerks
Trump, like the people who follow him is an opportunist. When communism is what helps him and his billionaire donors, that’s what it is. When calling everyone that disagrees with him communist helps him, that’s what it is.
And the thing is, he never has to worry about losing support when changing with whatever way the wind blows. Because his followers only loyalty is to him, not any set of principles.
That’s it. That’s why this site is filled with so-called “small government people” who are arguing till they’re blue in the face in favor of a person who is now nationalizing industry and forcing smaller businesses to close their doors. Not to mention secretly asking Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial.
I guess we’ll see which way the wind blows tomorrow.
originally posted by: Grambler
So I have made several thread and particpated in several more lambasting our government, including trump, for destorying the economy and locking huge parts of the country down without answerung basic questions.
See the questions on the top part of the OP for a just a few we should have all demanded they answer.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
For my stance of demanding answers to basic questions before destroying the economy and locking people down, here are just a few things my fellow trump supporters have said about me
I am a secret democrat and always have been
I am shilling for the media
I am a never trumper
I want to see old people die
I am just taking my stance to get more viewers on my youtube channel
I dont understand math
It would be bad for trump to go against state governors.
And on and on. All of this for questioning destroying the economy and locking people down
Well some other people have questioned whteher or not this loss of civil liberties and destroying the economy was worth it. Ron Paul, nah all the trump supporters criticizing nme say he sucks. Same ith his son Rand
Well now a new politician is questioning it.
The mans name? Donald Trump
Only hours before the surgeon general’s dire warning, Trump suggested in a tweet that the remedies may be more harmful than the outbreak in a tweet that contradicted the advice of medical experts across the nation.
“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” he wrote, adding: “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”
apnews.com...
I cant wait for the same trump supporters who said those things of me to come here and say them of trump for questioning this.
He must want sick people to die, right? he must not be able to do math! He shouldnt question state governors. He must be a secret democrat never trumper, right?
Trump would be right to do what he can to reverse the damage, but as far as Im concerned its and admission of indefensible negligence on his part. The time for asking these questions and giving answers to the american people was BEFORE the lockdowns and crashing of the economy.
But hey, this is better than leaving it go on (as far as I am concerned this is all bluster though until he actually changes course)
But hes questioning whether the solution is worse than the problem, and trump supporters on this verty site have attacked me for that same thing, so lets see them come out here and call out trump.
I wont hold my breath.
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
Trump secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial? Yeah right. Source?
originally posted by: underwerks
Trump, like the people who follow him is an opportunist. When communism is what helps him and his billionaire donors, that’s what it is. When calling everyone that disagrees with him communist helps him, that’s what it is.
And the thing is, he never has to worry about losing support when changing with whatever way the wind blows. Because his followers only loyalty is to him, not any set of principles.
That’s it. That’s why this site is filled with so-called “small government people” who are arguing till they’re blue in the face in favor of a person who is now nationalizing industry and forcing smaller businesses to close their doors. Not to mention secretly asking Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial.
I guess we’ll see which way the wind blows tomorrow.
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
Trump secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial? Yeah right. Source?
originally posted by: underwerks
Trump, like the people who follow him is an opportunist. When communism is what helps him and his billionaire donors, that’s what it is. When calling everyone that disagrees with him communist helps him, that’s what it is.
And the thing is, he never has to worry about losing support when changing with whatever way the wind blows. Because his followers only loyalty is to him, not any set of principles.
That’s it. That’s why this site is filled with so-called “small government people” who are arguing till they’re blue in the face in favor of a person who is now nationalizing industry and forcing smaller businesses to close their doors. Not to mention secretly asking Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial.
I guess we’ll see which way the wind blows tomorrow.
He can't tell you because it's "secret".
The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the novel coronavirus spreads throughout the United States.
originally posted by: Grambler
originally posted by: Wide-Eyes
originally posted by: filthyphilanthropist
Trump secretly asked Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial? Yeah right. Source?
originally posted by: underwerks
Trump, like the people who follow him is an opportunist. When communism is what helps him and his billionaire donors, that’s what it is. When calling everyone that disagrees with him communist helps him, that’s what it is.
And the thing is, he never has to worry about losing support when changing with whatever way the wind blows. Because his followers only loyalty is to him, not any set of principles.
That’s it. That’s why this site is filled with so-called “small government people” who are arguing till they’re blue in the face in favor of a person who is now nationalizing industry and forcing smaller businesses to close their doors. Not to mention secretly asking Congress for the ability to detain people indefinitely without trial.
I guess we’ll see which way the wind blows tomorrow.
He can't tell you because it's "secret".
The Justice Department has quietly asked Congress for the ability to ask chief judges to detain people indefinitely without trial during emergencies — part of a push for new powers that comes as the novel coronavirus spreads throughout the United States.
www.politico.com...
originally posted by: Grambler
a reply to: StoutBroux
no offense to you but you are about the fifth person I have responded to suggesting our rights arent being taken away.
I could tell you how my friend who owns a business no longer has the right to keep it open. I could post a link showing a man in my state was arrested for having a wedding on his property because it violated social distancing rules from the governor. I could post stories how california police are sending drones out to catch people who violate the lockdown.
But instead Ill just say that if you dont see any violation of our rights on this situation, there is no point in us having a discussion.
originally posted by: StoutBroux
We have Sanctuary states, sanctuary cities. They violate the federal laws hundred of times a day, 365 days a year. If THAT is the sign of oppression by an unconstitutional government then your questions fail. If anything, the federal government and it's agencies have lost their tight grip on this country. States lead themselves. What SPECIFIC N E W laws have been enacted? Which ones specifically did Trump endorse?
People are afraid of the virus, not the government.
And let me just say, there are THOUSANDS of old laws on the books that do violate our rights. And I am against that. But I choose which ones I will follow. Your questions on this issue are moot. This all is temporary, there is an end point. People are self regulating (mostly). I think you're making mountains out of mole hills Grambler. But hey, we all have different ways of dealing with covfefe, oops, I mean cabin fever.