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In Italy, some kind of new “mutation” of the coronavirus flared?

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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:09 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
A Thai Doctor has said the Italian CORID-19 is not the same as the bug that first hit Thailand. You hear that Italy's population is older etc etc thus their high death rate... but the Doctor says this is a mutated virus which has a higher morality rate with those infected. newsletter.thaivisa.com...


He said that at first Thailand had 30-40 cases and one death and there was little change for many weeks, reported Thai Rath. Thais who were infected had got a milder strain prevalent in other parts of Asia like Japan, South Korea and Hong Kong.



He said that a relative of a person in the boxing fraternity who had been to Italy started the spread of the Italian strain of the virus.



The person in the boxing fraternity was a "super spreader" who infected 50 people at Lumpinee and these have gone on to infect others resulting in a rapid rise and rapid expansion in the location of cases in Thailand.



He said that this strain is much more severe and has a far higher mortality rate because of its ability to cause onset of severe respiratory disease and even heart related problems.



He pointed to the fact that in Italy there had been 47,021 cases and 4,032 deaths or 8.6%. By comparison in South Korea 8,799 had been infected with only 102 deaths making the death rate just 1.1%.


So his evidence that the virus has mutated is that it's killing more people in some countries than in others?

Yeah, because that's soooo scientific...

How the # does anybody fall for this garbage?




posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:10 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
the Doctor says this is a mutated virus which has a higher morality rate with those infected.

Oh joy!!




posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:29 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: ahamarlin

Ten Questions for the U.S.: Where did the Novel Coronavirus Come From?




Question 7

Japan, South Korea, Italy and Iran all reported that many of their first COVID-19 confirmed cases had no exposure history with China but showed connection with the United States. How come?

Genetic research shows that the type of novel coronavirus found in China belongs to Group C, but Group A and Group B viruses – Group C’s parental and grand parental viruses – are both found in the United States. Why? A Japanese patient was diagnosed with influenza in Hawaii but was tested positive for COVID-19 when he returned to Japan. How to explain that?

Some COVID-19 cases in the U.S. had no connection with China whatsoever. So where does it come from?




That's a crap article with many questions but no factual research to answer said questions. It's all just guessing with question marks. I'm all for bioweapon conspiracy but that author didn't even try.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:37 AM
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a reply to: Flesh699

The head of the CDC did admit on national TV the first assertion about the fact that some patients were misdiagnosed with flu and really died of coronavirus. When and where he didn't say.


Here's another thing




When the U.S. government advised its people not to wear masks, was it not being passive? Just too many questions call for the U.S.’s explanation


Interestingly while the entire world uses masks in the US for some reason( they never give a good reason BTW) they advise against it.

I think the guy makes a lot of good points. www.globalresearch.ca...
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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:38 AM
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i heard viruses naturally mutate, but usually for the better. They do not want to kill their hosts because then they will not survive. So most viruses get less dangerous for self preservation a reply to: RussianTroll



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:42 AM
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originally posted by: HODOSKE
i heard viruses naturally mutate, but usually for the better. They do not want to kill their hosts because then they will not survive. So most viruses get less dangerous for self preservation a reply to: RussianTroll



Yes, I also watched Hollywood films about evil and good aliens

In reality, this document exists.
U . S. Government
COVID - 19 Response Plan

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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 10:59 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

the first case was not a man who was in hawaii, yes there was a couple that went to hawaii that was diagnosed but they weren't the first cases.

first korean case was a chinese woman.

the first two cases in italy were again a couple from china.

many first diagnosed cases around the world were all Chinese couples who were tourists and from wuhan.

that last part is easy to answer, the people who had no known connection probably were a: lying, b: knew someone else who did. either way why does that matter when many cases did indeed have a connection?

global travel is what spread it regardless of where it came from so this whole assertion that it came from the US is either plain ignorance or propaganda to shift the blame so china can save face.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 11:51 AM
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Russia are supporting and spreading disinformation and propaganda, Corona virus was claimed to be a biological weapon deployed by China, the US or the UK.
One Russian "news" agency tried to say it was American special forces that was spreading the virus as a weapon!?!




Pro-Kremlin media have been spreading disinformation about coronavirus with the aim of “aggravating” the public health crisis in the west


The Guardian news report.




While all three countries’ state-sponsored outlets pushed explicitly anti- U.S. sentiments, Iran and Russia appeared to push far more conspiratorial content than China.

Defence one.

That's just a handful of the websites out there that are reporting on Russia trying to push blame on America?!?!?
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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll


Japan, South Korea, Italy and Iran all reported that many of their first COVID-19 confirmed cases had no exposure history with China but showed connection with the United States. How come?



Where did it start Mr. Troll? Where are those countries close to, oh I'm sure Americans are all over Iran too... If it came from the US then we would be a lot farther on the curve than we are as we are basically just starting. China is the farthest on the curve to the point that the virus is most likely finished here being the first place by like 2 months to get it.

If you are suggesting we sent it as a bio weapon why did we miss Russia? Russia has been somewhat safe since the Chinese are not all over that country like they are in many others. Add in China's highest level Bio research facility is like 200 yards from the wet market in Wuhan... Hmmm


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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: HODOSKE
i heard viruses naturally mutate, but usually for the better. They do not want to kill their hosts because then they will not survive. So most viruses get less dangerous for self preservation a reply to: RussianTroll



Actually this is true... It doesn't fit well with the evolutionary process for the virus to kill the host. Viruses that kill the host quickly tend to die out quickly, and this is why really bad viruses like the Bird Flu and Ebola usually have very short lived hot zones while something like HIV has a huge one, and even in the case of HIV they have found strains of it in Africa that don't cause AIDS.


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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:15 PM
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a reply to: Kurokage




“There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: There is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to… The Outer Limits.”

Relax America: Putin Controls the Horizontal

There are millions of jokes, memes and demotivators on this topic in Russia. The whole world used to be controlled by Jews. now - Putin
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posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:17 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll



“There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity.


What if I don't have a TV set, does that mean I'm immune to Putin's shenanigans?



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:42 PM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

In fact, Russia's assistance to Italy in overcoming the coronavirus epidemic is exclusively cordial in nature and is not associated with the colossal sanctions in which Italy is involved.

You can see some photos about sending planes in Italy.
Dispatch of Russian military personnel of the Russian Chemical Forces Safety Base to Italy

Pay attention to the stickers: "From Russia with love!"



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:44 PM
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originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: RussianTroll



What if I don't have a TV set, does that mean I'm immune to Putin's shenanigans?


Do not dishonor America. In Russia, even a beggar has a TV



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:45 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

In Russia, scientists have created and tested vaccines for at least three types of this coronavirus - Chinese, Iranian and Italian. When it comes to people's lives, any propaganda is inappropriate. We understand that coronovirus cannot be cured with one tweet, no matter who it is. By deceiving yourself you can easily die.


Hopefully for you and your comrades, it's not scientists schooled in the same place as the scientists that created and tested your nuclear reactors. We all know how reputable Russia is and how well that went...

~Namaste



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:54 PM
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a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

In Russia, education is versatile. Our universities graduate specialists in various fields. Russia's nuclear reactors are the best in the world. I hope that our specialists in other areas create the best technology. It is more profitable to be friends with us than to fight.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:56 PM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

It is more profitable to be friends with us than to fight.



On this, we agree my friend. Tell that to your leaders and I'll tell mine.

~Namaste



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 12:57 PM
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a reply to: Meldionne1

www.worldatlas.com...

Japan then Italy are the countries with the highest % of old people per capita, Italy has 23% over 60s.



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 01:03 PM
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originally posted by: SonOfTheLawOfOne

originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

It is more profitable to be friends with us than to fight.



On this, we agree my friend. Tell that to your leaders and I'll tell mine.

~Namaste


Of course! I have not been on the site for more than a year, due to the fact that some of my posts were blocked. But I always said that two great nations in our world always have enough space. And not just for the benefit. but also for sincere friendship



posted on Mar, 23 2020 @ 01:30 PM
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a reply to: SonOfTheLawOfOne

But the leaders are on the same team, we are the enemy, we just don't know it......... Yet.



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