originally posted by: Ohanka
originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: Klassified
Jesus forgives, I do not... Y'all have issues.
Jesus forgives no one, he demands worship under threat of eternal torment.
It is not true. He said He was not the judge and that His Father was the Judge. Angels are dispatched with judgments upon us. We are not meant to
worship Jesus. He even said we must pray to and worship the Father, the Creator of all that is. He never told anyone to worship Him or the Holy
I am just defending Him because this is not what He said and it is not His function to be the Judge. He said we will be our own judges,
Matthew 7:2" For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again."
It is the measure we use that is the measure used on us. That is why we were told to forgive. If we forgive then we are forgiven. If we do not forgive
then we can't be forgiven. He even forgave them for murdering Him while they were doing it because He knew they were ignorant and did not know what
they were doing, being only semi conscious humans that we all are, inheritors of the Original Sin of consciousness. Sin refers to the Moon. The Moon
is the Serpent. It worked upon us through Women and their monthly Moon cycle. "Men" means moon — Menstrual cycle. The frenetic hormonal activity of
the evolving homo sapien females created in us consciousness and civilization too, being aware of good and evil, but not able enough to tell the
difference no matter how hard we try. Our consciousness is compromised and vulnerable. That is why we have made such a mess of Creation continually.
"And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from
the tree of life and eat, and live forever.""
Eve is the symbolic Woman eating the fruit of Sin (the Moon) through her cycle. SIN means Moon. That is where it originates. Only humans sin. It is
the state of our consciousness, the forbidden fruit of menstrually evolved consciousness. Women were the first to become conscious and took men on
this journey of separation from the animals with them.
I believe this is all a biological plan for humans. Sin only makes sense in Hebrew terms. A Moon god worshiper of Sin or Nanna would not understand
the term as anything evil or wrong. It only became a choice to know Abraham's I AM and HIS effect upon our evolving consciousness when He made the
Covenant with Abraham. That was the manifestation. It is very modern. Humans have been out of the animal kingdom for over a million years. It was only
a few thousand years ago when Abraham had his visitation and began the Hebrew Covenant that was to lead to Jesus and the New Covenant. Abraham walked
the earth in the End Days too. I AM has only been known to us since Abraham only roughly four thousand years ago. The Hebrew MOON Calendar has been
keeping the dates since the departure from Ur and Mesopotamian civilizationin from what is today Southern Iraq. The Bible evn tells us Abarham came
out of Ur by way of Harran.
"Harran, ancient Carrhae, was a major ancient city in Upper Mesopotamia whose site is near the modern village of Altınbaşak, Turkey, 44 kilometers
southeast of Şanlıurfa. The location is in the Harran district of Şanlıurfa Province."
Genesis 11:31, "Terah took his son Abram, his grandson Lot son of Haran, and his daughter-in-law Sarai, the wife of his son Abram, and together they
set out from Ur of the Chaldeans to go to Canaan. But when they came to Harran, they settled there."
"Ur (/ʊər/; Sumerian: Urim; Sumerian Cuneiform: 𒋀𒀕𒆠 URIM2KI or 𒋀𒀊𒆠 URIM5KI; Akkadian: Uru; Arabic: أور; Hebrew:
אור) was an important Sumerian city-state in ancient Mesopotamia, located at the site of modern Tell el-Muqayyar (Arabic: تل المقير)
in south Iraq's Dhi Qar Governorate. Although Ur was once a coastal city near the mouth of the Euphrates on the Persian Gulf, the coastline has
shifted and the city is now well inland, on the south bank of the Euphrates, 16 kilometres (9.9 miles) from Nasiriyah in modern-day Iraq."
Genesis 15:7. "He also said to him, "I am the LORD, who brought you out of Ur of the Chaldeans to give you this land to take possession of it.""
That happened just a short time ago considering we have been around over a million years as humans with an evolving consciousness.
For a million years humans sacrificed the blood of their children in a constant blood-letting that was a symptom and consequence of our emerging
consciousness. It was the state of our being. Even the Hebrews slaughtered animals as a substitute for this human blood-letting. The more conscious we
became the worse our blood letting became too. It is a mystery of consciousness that still needs answering. Jesus paid the price of it. The Cross is
symbolic of the World Tree and the ultimate Shamanic act of self-sacrifice, down at the Crossroads between dimensions. The Crossroads goes way back to
Hecate and even much earlier. The Crossroads is where we used to worship our idols. That is where the idea of Witches meeting at Crossroads comes
from. It even found its way through Western African animism and into blues music.
I've seen the whole thing. Our world is all interaction, like the links on the internet. Everything comes from everything else. Nothing is separate.
That is evolution, the constant new wine for new wine skin. Evolution is the wine press. Jesus Himself was the consequence of a tradition where the
High Priest for over 1, 500 years before Jesus came slaughtered animals at Mount Moriah where Isaac had been substituted as a human sacrifice for an
animal to pay the blood of Sin. The High Priest would spatter blood on the Altar of the Holy of Holies and the Congregation. This foretold the
sacrifice of Jesus for all our Sins, that allowed us to evolve and took away the curse of blood sacrifice as a necessity.
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