posted on Apr, 3 2005 @ 11:04 PM
Lilth, well yes, a little, wasn’t she the woman married to Frazer on Cheers?
All right, The Bible make any mean of Lilth. It seems to be meld of folk lore and mistranslation of words.
Here is some information from the web. As you have touched on a subject I know little about.
Alphabet of Ben Sirah, ( A jew from the middle ages)
When God created Adam, he was lonely, so God created Lilith from the same dust from which Adam was molded. But they quarrelled; Adam [the proverbial
domineering male] wished to rule over Lilith. But Lilith [a militant feminist] was also proud and willful, claiming equality with Adam because she was
created from the same dust. She left Adam and fled the Garden. God sent three angels in pursuit of Lilith. They caught
her and ordered her to return to Adam. She refused, and said that she would henceforth weaken and kill little children, infants and babes. The angels
overpowered her, and she promised that if the mother hung an amulet over the baby bearing the names of the three angels, she would stay away from that
home. So they let her go, and God created Eve to be Adam's mate [created from Adam's rib, so that she couldn't claim equality]. And ever since,
Lilith flies around the world, howling her hatred of mankind through the night, and vowing vengeance because of the shabby treatment she had received
from Adam. She is also called "The Howling One."
You can see how this legend could lead to various interpretations, depending on whether you think she is noble (in rebelling against male domination)
or evil (in vowing vengeance against innocent babies.)
But where does this legend come from? The author of Ben Sirah basically wove together three separate threads from centuries earlier works, because
Lilith is a very ancient legend.
Let's start with the Bible as primary source material. Genesis of course mentions Adam and Eve, but -- please note -- doesn't mention Lilith. The
idea of Lilith as a "prior first woman" before Eve arises much later. The only reference to Lilith in the Bible (Old or New Testaments) is Isaiah
34:14, probably written around 540 BC; it's a description of desolation, jackals and ravens among nettles and briers, etc.: "Goat demons shall greet
each other; there too the lilith will repose." Most of the other creatures referenced in this poetry cannot be positively identified. The KJV,
following the Vulgate, translates "the lilith" as "the night demon," confusing the lili- with the Hebrew word for night. But presumably Isaiah
meant some sort of demon.
The notion of a lilith as a demon is probably Assyrian (say around 700 BC), incorporated into Isaiah by way of the ancient Israelite contacts with the
mythologies of Babylonia and Chaldea. The Assyrians had three female demons, Lilit, Lilu,and Ardat Lilit. There's little doubt that the Hebrew
lilith-demon mentioned in Isaiah was a folkloric adaptation of the Assyrian demons.
Several hundred years after Isaiah, we find Talmudic writings that describe Lilith (now as a named demon, rather than a broad category) as an
irresistibly seductive she-demon with long hair (presumably worn loose, a sure sign of wantonness) and wings. Terey wants us to be sure to say that
she's a succubus. She seduces unwary men, then savagely kills the children she bears for them.
From this, she becomes the demon responsible for the death of babies. In ancient times, one needed to protect against such demons; today, we blame
other factors for the death of infants. To guard against Lilith, superstitious Jews would hang four amulets, one on the wall of each room of a newborn
babe, with the inscription "Lilith - abi!" ["Lilith - begone!"] which some think is the origin, much later, of the English word "lullaby."
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The modern idea of Lilth is the champion of women, nothing further could be the case. This is a result of “individualism” a type of thinking
which is hard to explain here, but believes each person is an island unto themselves vs. personhood, which believes we are all connected to each other
by spirit, love. That them more we live in God’s grace the more love we have between each other, the closer we grow.
When, God made Eve he did so out of Adam rib, rather then dust of the ground, why? Too show we are all of the same flesh, we are one race of people,
your flesh is the very same as my flesh. There is no difference between it. Woman means hidden man, woman is really just part of man, thus man is
not greater or lesser than woman, anymore than my legs are greater or lesser than my arms. God created man and women to be together in love. He
created them to be a perfect match, in every way, for love’s sake. After the fall he put enmity between man and woman, so each of us could find
humility, and not raise up against each other as they did in the Garden. Eve was deceived, where Adam was disobedient. Eve ate of the fruit first
because she wanted have power over Adam by partaking of “godhood” first this is why she did not discuss it with him until she ate. Adam had been
told not to eat of the tree by God personally, Eve had not, Adam then ate of the fruit, thus failed in protecting Eve. The Bible says that after Adam
ate “and their eyes were open” showing that Adam and Eve were connected, Eve’s eyes were not opened until Adam ate, then both of them were
If someone wants a Champion, then look no further than the Holy Virgin Mary, she up every desire of her own to serve God, selflessness. God then
blessed her with the greatest joys of the world. He gave her motherhood, yet she remains a virgin. She has the most wonderful son any mother could
want. She is able to partake in the saving of the whole world, she is the champion of virtues, the down fall of demons, the hope of the hopeless, she
is a true hero.