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The events of Revelation begin with a pandemic

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posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 08:01 AM
Woman drunk on the blood of saints:

Isaiah 26
Currently happening

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 08:03 AM
a reply to: GnuWorldOrder
"Blood of the saints" means martyred Chrsitians. It's a metaphor.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 08:38 AM
a reply to: DISRAELI

I believe that their purpose has already been fulfilled, and that it was in relation to the Jews.
Sometimes the Hebrew scriptures do not extend beyond that time frame.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 08:41 AM
Expand your your thinking.
The bible is the living word.
Its literal and metaphotic and has many meanings.

Think about it children havent reached the age of accountability...
Therefore if martyred they absolutely fall in this category.

Unrelated dale gribble the map shows beast from Daniel... Think Rome.

Legs of iron feet of clay

Shown right in our face on king of the hill as lesser magic.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 10:02 AM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
The four winds are also in Revelation ch7 v1, as I've been trying to point out several times.
The stopping of the four winds is the stopping of the four horsemen. They are alternative metaphors.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 06:21 PM
a reply to: DISRAELI

The context is critical, the four horsemen start at the beginning of the last days and ride until they gallop right into the start of the great tribulation, this tribulation unleashes the 4 winds afterwards, read Rev. 7:3. Those winds are being held back presently, but angels will let them go when they are commanded to and it will devastate the world systems when they do.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 06:49 PM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
The four horsemen ARE the period of tribulation. Not the "great" tribulation, though, because that comes through the trumpets which follow the sealing.

The distinction between the four horsemen and the four winds is totally artificial, devised as a way to support a false interpretation, in order to squeeze Revelation into a pre-arranged dogmatic schema. Your guides are not looking at the text with honesty.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 06:56 PM
a reply to: DISRAELI

Are you saying "the last days" the horseman run during, equal "a period of tribulation" ?
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posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:30 PM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
All I'm doing is referring to the sequence of events.
I've done threads outlining this, but I'll sum it up from memory

There is a period of destruction; the four horsemen/four winds of ch6. But the martyrs are warned (fifth seal) that this period will not see the completion of God's vengeance.

In accordance with this warning, the destructive period, or time, or whatever you want to call it, is interrupted in ch7 v1, for the sake of the sealing. This is a time of recovery for the world, during which the Beast rises to power.

Initially God lets him be ("silence in heaven", ch 8v1). But when the Beast begins persecuting the saints, they appeal to God for help (ch8 v4), and in response God sends the time of catastrophe signalled by the trumpets. That is the tribulation which deserves to be called "great"- though, strictly speaking, the persecution itself is the time of tribulation (compare ch1 v9).

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posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:31 PM
White in Revelation represents righteousness, holiness. See Revelation 3:4; 7:9, 13, 14.

Angels are usually depicted as wearing white. See Mark 16:5; John 20;12; Rev 19:14.

In Revelation God's throne of righteous judgement is white. See Revelation 20:11.

There can be no denying that white is indeed symbolic of that which is pure in God's eyes, that which is clean, holy, righteous.

The riders of the white horse in Revelation 6 and Revelation 19 thus ride forth with righteousness, holiness.

Truth and honesty is a part of the good fruit of God's spirit.

Who rides forth to conquer and to complete his conquest?

Jesus is the one that is given the commission to begin to reign in the midst of his enemies. To conquer them, and at Armageddon complete his conquest.

Psalm 45 3-6 - Strap your sword on your side, O mighty one,
In your dignity and your splendor.
 And in your splendor go on to victory;
Ride in the cause of truth and humility and righteousness,
And your right hand will accomplish awe-inspiring things.
 Your arrows are sharp, making peoples fall before you;
They pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies.
  God is your throne forever and ever;
The scepter of your kingdom is a scepter of uprightness.

Psalm 110:2 - Jehovah will extend the scepter of your power out of Zion, saying:
“Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”

The rider of the white horse will conquer and will complete his conquest! He rides in the cause of truth and humility and righteousness. His arrows are sharp, making peoples fall before him. They pierce the hearts of the king's enemies.

Revelation 6 2 -  And I saw, and look! a white horse, and the one seated on it had a bow; and a crown was given him, and he went out conquering and to complete his conquest.

The crown is Jesus' alone. Neither, , famine, warfare, or plague receive the crown of righteousness that Jesus receives as the King of kings, and Lord of lords.

Jesus is now conquering among his enemies in heaven. And will ride forth in the near future to complete his conquest at Armageddon even as foretold at Revelation 19. There we are told that Jesus will break kings to pieces on the day of God's anger and wrath against wicked mankind.

Also, as the red horse is granted to take peace away from the earth and represents warfare, and the black horse, is given a pair of scales and a voice proclaims: "“A quart of wheat for a de·narʹi·us and three quarts of barley for a de·narʹi·us; and do not harm the olive oil and the wine," thus representing famine.

Thus the fourth horse rides forth and is pale. It has the name Death. "And authority was given them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with a long sword and with food shortage and with deadly plague and by the wild beasts of the earth." Revelation 6 3-8.

The riders of the four horsemen have ravaged humankind with war, famine, plagues, by means of pestilence, great earthquakes, all throughout the end times. Hundreds of millions have died by their power. No wonder the rider of the pale horse is named Death, and has the grave following behind it to gather together such a great harvest of dead due to the plagues unleashed upon humanity by their ride.

Notice that the grave follows these. So we know this cannot refer to the time of the great tribulation. At that point when Jesus arrives to execute judgement on humankind we are told that those executed by his hand will be destroyed forever:

"But you who suffer tribulation will be given relief along with us at the revelation of the Lord Jesus from heaven with his powerful angels  in a flaming fire, as he brings vengeance on those who do not know God and those who do not obey the good news about our Lord Jesus.  These very ones will undergo the judicial punishment of everlasting destruction from before the Lord and from the glory of his strength."

1 Thessalonians 1 7-9.

Revelation tells us that during the 1,000 year reign the grave will give up those dead in them as they are brought back to life:

"And the sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the Grave gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds."
-Revelation 20 13

Those who are destroyed during the great tribulation do NOT go to the grave. They go to Gehenna, or the lake of fire, which means the second death. For them there is no resurrection.

So it is obvious that the ride of the 4 horsemen cannot be during the coming great tribulation, or Armageddon. It has to be during the period of the last days when the majority of all mankind who has died go to the grave and are awaiting a resurrection.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:34 PM
a reply to: ApocalypseRising
You had better read my replies to your Watchtower colleague and take them as replies to yourself. I'm not going to be explaining things over and over again.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:44 PM
a reply to: DISRAELI

Along with the fruitage of the spirit comes spiritual discernment. Part of having that fruitage is truth and righteousness. Eph 5 8, 9.

The scriptures reveal the truth, and it is understood by means of the spirit. There can be no denying what they reveal, and what you have been given is accurate and reliable from God's word.

posted on Mar, 25 2020 @ 07:48 PM
a reply to: ApocalypseRising
That is true, and I invite you to read what I have been given on this topic;
Revelation- project complete

posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 05:52 PM
Irregardless we agree that pandemics fulfill bible prophesy, we disagree on other technical details and timelines.

posted on Mar, 26 2020 @ 07:21 PM
a reply to: Blue_Jay33
We have reached that conclusion, anyway.

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