Originally posted by riley
I guess what the bible says depends on which parts you want to pay attention to or ignore:
Not really if one does the research behind the verses.
1 Corinthians 11
3 Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 6 If a woman does
not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her
head.
A woman's hair was the equivalent to nudity.
7 A man ought not to cover his head,
Doing away with the Jewishness.
since he is the image and glory of God;
So the Torah lies?
"And G-d said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness.
They shall rule the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the cattle, the
whole earth, and all the creeping things that creep on earth.' And G-d created man in His image, in the image of G-d he created him;
Male and
Female He created
them. G-d blessed
them...." JPS
"And G-d said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let
them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the
air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So G-d created man in his own image, in
the image of G-d created he him;
male and
female created he
them. 28 And G-d blessed
them..." KJV
"Then G-d said, "Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let
them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of
the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth." 27 So G-d created man in his own
image, in the image of G-d he created him;
male and
female he created
them. 28 And G-d blessed
them..." RSV
I could go on and on with the different translations.
but the woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for
man.
Woman was a part of man's fulfillment.
Seems women are less 'holier' than men in the eyes of god.
This can't be the farthest thing from the truth. If G-d made both man and woman in his image, how could that be true? G-d has male and female
qualities so he thinks of himself as lesser in one half? That's absurd. I'll even go one step further here. When G-d made the male and female
stated above, he literally made a dual gendered human that he separated into male and female in chapter 2. So again, both male and female were formed
in chapter one so technically one didn't come before the other. If women weren't holy in the eyes of G-d, why did he allow them to lead people? Be
prophets? Be a liberator of the Jews? Why did G-d take away the Rosh Chodesh from the men and give it to the women? I'll answer that for you since
you probably don't know what it is. Because women didn't participate in the worshipping of the golden calf.
I don't know.. maybe the fact that women used to still have to say "love , honour and obey" only last century.. Saint4god.. how can
you say that marriage is suppose to be 'equal' when men didn't even have to say this?
Correction....Christian women maybe and then some who didn't have a religion.
..the logic behind this was Eve being born for Adam [as in possession] ..same idea behind rape being still legal in marriage last
century.. thats not 2000 years ago.
Again, Eve wasn't born. And Adam's name means clay, earth and Eve means life. So does that mean men are dirt and women give life?
1 Timothy 2
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission.
It's sad how these Jewish men turned.
Can't see the misogynry yet?
From bitter NT writers.
12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.
Another bitter statement as Jewish women are sought for counsel on the Torah. Some marriage contracts specified that women had to teach her husband
the Torah as women were seen as closer to G-d.
13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
Wrong, Adam had both genders and he was formed. Then G-d built Eve from Adam.
14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
Right because Adam first deceived the woman. Did you forget that part?
15 But women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
I'm just going to LMAO at this one.
nope.. that doesn't sound like a single unit.. sounds like a master/servant 'relationship' to me.. where is this equal 'unity' based on
mutual respect?
Because you obviously have no knowledge of the Hebrew. Or maybe you want it to be that way. Either way it goes, Eve means life, Adam means earth.
Life is higher on the totem pole than earth. Eve's name contains two Hebrew letters in YHWH while Adam has none. The name to live and to be which
are the roots of the names of Eve and G-d share the same root. Eve was created in Eden while man was not. He was merely transplanted. And if you
want to believe in "original sin," then man brought it, not woman. Adam lied to Eve and he sinned in knowledge. Hers was through ignorance and the
reliance on Adam's words. Hence the reason you see the generational curses being that of the fathers and the fathers' fathers.
I neglated to include that one. I'm intereted in more of what you have to say too.
they were so ignorant in those days] were her added punnishments.. Adam's were.. working.. thing is women are not biologically exempt from
working [like men are from painful procreating] so it's not really a 'seperate' and exclusive punnishment. 
