The Absolute Power of Christianity!, page 3

Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Skadi_the_Evil_Elf,
I kind of agree with you but also disagree and here is why.
For the past few decades, another religion has governed our lives. One that denies all other religions, one that denies all of our rights and freedoms. One that condemns anyone that has a belief system that is not thiers.
This religion is fully backed by the US goverment, fully back by the US court system etc.
Do you know what this religion is?..... the religion of Atheism.

I do not want anyone's religion shoved down my throat weather it be Catholism or Hinduism. In the US today, a person that is a practising catholic (or any other religion) is a second class citizen. They are not afford the same rights as an atheist.

Our country was born on the belief of religious freedom. Our laws are biblically based, our monetary system is full of religious references. Even our national anthem and Pledge of Allegiance are religious.

For decades now, the aethiest has had their way in how our country handles religion. So far, there can be any number of various clubs in our schools, but if there is even a hint of catholism, it is banned. Prayers before a game in school is banned, moments of silence is banned in school. and on and on and on.

I could easily post hundreds of ways that aethism has over run our lives and changed how we think / act as a people and as a society. Our moral values have become extinct. Our tolerance of others have become anemic.

One of the most telling blows to how aethiesm has harmed our society, look at the crime statistics nation-wide both before and then after Madalyn Murray O' Hair and Jon Garth Murray won thier court battles back in 1963. You will find that since prayer / moment of silence were banned, the crime rates have taken a much higher rate of increase that is not explained by population growth etc.

The re-introduction of religion of whatever flavour you believe in back into our society I welcome hwoleheartedly and pray that it will continue to grow and hopefully reverse the effect that aethiesm has caused our country.
Aethism is a religion, it is the belief that there is no God (by whatever name). That in of itself is a religion.

The laws of this country are not biblically based. I don't know where that came from. The laws of this country were based upon the first fledging democratic and represenitive Republican ideals of Rome and Greece. If our laws were based on the bible, we would be stoning homosexuals, adulterers, and disobedient children to death. The bible is not based on the equality of humanity either, with women being "unclean" and expected to "submit to their husbands". This is a democracy, with represntation like the Roman republic. When thos country was formed, it was formed during a revival of clasical Greek and Roman thought. These ideals were influencing much of the west at the time and causing changes in the religously dominated governments.

I believe in freedom of religon. I also believe in freedom FROM religon. The tgovornment is a mixed creature. Some are attacking religon. Others are trying to force it down our throats. It depends on who is in power. But athiesm is forced upon people by one faction, and Christianity is being forced by another. For everytime I see Christian rights to practice their religon assaulted, along with their beliefs, I see another person from a different side trying to push Christianity on the people. So its a two way street.

We don't need more religon, thats the last thing we need. We need seperation of church and state. We need the government to stop banning Christmas music or nativity scenes in public. We also must prevent religous zealots in the government from banning any literature that defies or goes against Christian belief.

Banning prayer had nothing to do with crime rising. Crime rose because of the rise in liberal pseudo-scientific psychology which removes all responsibility from a person and allows them to place the blame or guilt anywhere they choose, from parents to teachers, take your pick. Banning prayer from school was an act of protection from religos beliefs not shared by all. After all, why should athiest kids be made to pray? Both their rights not to have to partake in any religous activity has been violated. If some kid wants to pray before school, let them do it before class or on their own time. School is a place of learning, not a place of worship or religous indictrination.

I feel Christians like to complain and play the victim anytime they arent allowed to rub their religon in peoples faces. Our govornment has far from pushed athiesm on people and stifled religous expression. You want to see an example of REAL religous supression? Go to Europe. In France, people aren't even allowed to wear religous symbols or clothing on their own purpose, and over there, they have gone overboard a bit in seperation of church and state. We have gone no where near that level. In this country, you can still wear yarmukles, crosses, headscarves, red dots on the forehead, whatever you like. At the office, one can still display Christmas cards with a religous scene on them, in some countries in Europe, such cards are not allowed in the workplace because they might offend someone.

So, I disagree athiesm is being forced on anyone, or that our govornment tries to spread it. Quite the opposite, we fight court battles so that govornment figures, like in Alabama, cant impose their religous beliefs in a public place of secular business, the courthouse.

We have some areas where some people go overboard and try to ban Christmas songs, pageants, ect, which I am opposed to. If people want to celebrate the religous meaning of Christmas, so be it, provided they do not try and push non believers to treat it the same way. I don't even celebrate Christmas, I celebrate the Winter Solstice, so others observing Christmas is really something I do not care about, so long as they dont try and push their "jesus is the Reason for the Season" crap on me.

And now that we have the religous right in power, we are once again battling the forces of evil that would turn this country into a theocracy, including trying to legislate their morality on people who do not share it. That is something that those of us who have no want or use for Christian values or morals must constantly fight, lest we get pushed aside by the so called moral majority, marginalized, and have our own rights trampled upon.