USA & Israel's Ugly Past - Did You Forget They Are State Sponsors of Terror?

oops i just voted for way above for your last statement about "If you can't refute the thread..." and I was going to quote you on it but it looks like you edited it out. Ah well, I wanted to say HERE HERE! Well Said! But you deleted it lol.

But I won't make that statement because then I'll have hot and heavy Americans and Israeli Jews breathing down my neck saying.

WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFENSE

When in actuallity they have always been and will always be on the OFFENSIVE when there still exists a resistance factor which are the only true DEFENSIVE forces in the world - the true Rebels of NWO.

Let's Review:

Official FBI definition of terrorism

“Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”
- FBI Defnition of Terrorism

Our topic is an old one, nothing new. It's just avoided by people because they know their defensiveness to the US and ISRAELI offense on their freedoms will subject them to acts of terror for seeking the truth.

“If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany [or Israel] does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”

— Robert Jackson
American prosecutor
Nuremberg War-Crimes Trial
1946

[edit on 29-3-2005 by 00PS]

until recently , i was convinced , that israel and america are responsible for ALL the terrorism in the middle east - including saddam and bin laden -
however , although this is true to some extent , i think we're giving them too much credit . there is a bigger picture i'm sure , the zionists are only a part of this . i'm sure many people can see what's happening in the middle east these days : lebanon is in trouble again , and syria is being threatened . iraq has it's own problems , and if hizbullah are forced to give up their weapons , nothing will stop the isrealis from seizing a large part of lebanon , and then - with help from the us - syria . and so , very slowly , the map of the antient kingdom of isreal is restored , and god knows what will happen after that .......

What is the map of ancient Israel?

it extends from egypt " the nile " to iraq " the forat " occupies most of lebanon , syria , jordan , palesine - of course - . just search google u'll most likely find a map

Originally posted by tempogen
it extends from egypt " the nile " to iraq " the forat " occupies most of lebanon , syria , jordan , palesine - of course - . just search google u'll most likely find a map

I'm not so sure about this...

In my archaeology class, we talked a little about ancient Israel, but it didn't stretch as far as you mentioned. Even the Bible (for you believers, not me) mentions that the Israelite kings were always being dominated by the other kings of the region. I've seen artifacts (Assyrian, I believe; I'm drunk, so spare me) depicting Israelite kings kneeling and paying tribute to the other kings.

Now, the Israelites did venture into Egypt, but they never conquered it as far as I can tell. Egypt, on the other hand, conquered regions of present day Israel, including Jerusalem. In fact, a number of old civilizations took Israel or parts of it. Basically, I don't believe that ancient Israel was as big as you or your source maintained...but I could be wrong.

hmmm , well i do have a map , and guess what ? the gaza strip is NOT part of the antient kingdom . no wonder they left it " as a positive step towards the peace process " , however south lebanon , a chunk of syria " damascus is way in the kingdom " and the entire dead sea was part of it ... again i envite you to check it out for yourself ... i even found the map in " microsoft encarta encyclopedia " if you don't trust my sources , i'm sure you would trust this one .

Tempogen,

Can you post the map or a link to it?

Cheers

BHR

Thirty years ago, on September 11th 1973, terrorists attacked Chile. They overthrew the oldest functioning democracy in Latin America and installed a military dictatorship with General Augusto Pinochet at its head. The dictatorship set up concentration camps, suppressed opposition, murdered thousands, tortured tens of thousands and employed former Nazi Colonel Walter Rauff (who supervised extermination of Jews at Auschwitz) to assist the elimination of dissidents. This coup was the culmination of a three-year terrorist campaign to destabilize the government that included assassinations, arson, bombings and economic sabotage.

The terrorist organization that did this is called the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

The FBI defines terrorism as "violent acts… intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government, or affect the conduct of a government."

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These are types of things the US government has done, does do, and will continue to do until its mighty empire collapses from within...

Ghost,

This is only one of hundreds of examples of US interventions in the affairs of soveriegn states.

The US in the last 60 years has been the most hypocritical in its dealings with other nations.

Cheers

BHR

Is this what your looking for?

note this map is fictional

Originally posted by BillHicksRules
This is only one of hundreds of examples of US interventions in the affairs of soveriegn states.

The US in the last 60 years has been the most hypocritical in its dealings with other nations.

Don't think I dont know that, here is a earlier post of mine on this very thread for all those new comers to the discussion:

Originally posted by GhostSoldier
List of US backed terrorism; from most recent

Iraq
2003-Present

Palestine
1948-Present

Iraq
1991-2003

Afghanistan
2001-Present

Colombia
1960s-Present

Yugoslavia
1992-Present

Congo/Zaire
1961-Present

Cuba
1959-Present

Guatemala
1953-Present

El Salvador
1980-Present

East Timor
1975-1999

Haiti
1987-1994

Somalia
1993

Afghanistan
1979-1992

Nicaragua
1981-1990

Panama
1989

Libya
1981-1989

Iran
1988

Grenada
1979-1984

Greece
1964-1974

Chile
1964-1973

Costa Rica
Mid-1950s, 1970-71

Dominican Republic
1963-1966

Vietnam
1945-1974

Cambodia
1955-1973

Laos
1957-1973

Thailand
1965-1973

Italy
1947-1970s

Indonesia
1965

Brazil
1961-1964

British Guiana/Guyana
1953-1964

Iraq
1963

Soviet Union
1940s-1960s

Western Europe
1950s-1960s

Haiti
1959

Indonesia
1957-1958

Middle East
1956-1958

Iran
1953

Germany, Italy, Europe
1950s

Eastern Europe
1948-1956

Albania
1949-1953

Korea
1945-1953

Philippines
1945-1953

Greece
1947-1949

Marshall Islands
1946-1958

Italy
1947-1948

France
1947

China
1945-1951

Hiroshima & Nagasaki
August 1945

Dresden, Germany
February 1945

Japan, Germany, France
1942-1945

Around the world
1800s-1930s

Philippines
1899-1902

America and Africa
1607-1890

verfed , are you ASHAMED of israel's plans to expand , or are you confused ? hmmm ....... i'm not surprised anyway you can't stand NOT being the victim now can you ?

tempogen, please don't attack specific members for their opinions.

In an 11 page thread I'd wager there are more than enough issues for you to speak on without turning attention to individuals' characters.

Let's keep it to the topic at hand, which is certainly an important one with lots to discuss.

Thanks!

sorry djarum , but i have to be sarcastic when people try to discredit me by being smug . it's nothing personal

well, im not about to move to China, but i love this thread. i hate that i didnt find it until 11 pages in, but well done 00ps! -for USA & Isreali sponsered terrorism, the evidence is irrefutable

finally a thread that says just that, worded so perfectly that even blind patriots cannot ruin the FACT.

*but recognizing there is a badguy at work, doesnt mean you've correctly identified him. dont pick up your gun just yet.

Lost,

Welcome to this thread and I look forward to your future contributions.

Cheers

BHR