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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 02:04 AM by twitchy
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oops i just voted for way above for your last statement about "If you can't refute the thread..." and I was going to quote you on it but it looks
like you edited it out. Ah well, I wanted to say HERE HERE! Well Said! But you deleted it lol.
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 02:33 AM by 00PS
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If you want to be flamed you could say this: War *is* Terrorism
But I won't make that statement because then I'll have hot and heavy Americans and Israeli Jews breathing down my neck saying.
WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEFENSE
When in actuallity they have always been and will always be on the OFFENSIVE when there still exists a resistance factor which are the only true
DEFENSIVE forces in the world - the true Rebels of NWO.
Let's Review:
 Official FBI definition of terrorism
“Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or
any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.”
- FBI Defnition of Terrorism 
Our topic is an old one, nothing new. It's just avoided by people because they know their defensiveness to the US and ISRAELI offense on their
freedoms will subject them to acts of terror for seeking the truth.
“If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany [or Israel] does
them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us.”
— Robert Jackson
American prosecutor
Nuremberg War-Crimes Trial
1946
[edit on 29-3-2005 by 00PS]
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 03:28 AM by tempogen
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agreed
until recently , i was convinced , that israel and america are responsible for ALL the terrorism in the middle east - including saddam and bin laden -
however , although this is true to some extent , i think we're giving them too much credit . there is a bigger picture i'm sure , the zionists are
only a part of this . i'm sure many people can see what's happening in the middle east these days : lebanon is in trouble again , and syria is being
threatened . iraq has it's own problems , and if hizbullah are forced to give up their weapons , nothing will stop the isrealis from seizing a large
part of lebanon , and then - with help from the us - syria . and so , very slowly , the map of the antient kingdom of isreal is restored , and god
knows what will happen after that .......
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 03:32 AM by 00PS
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What is the map of ancient Israel?
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 03:45 AM by tempogen
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search
it extends from egypt " the nile " to iraq " the forat " occupies most of lebanon , syria , jordan , palesine - of course - . just search google
u'll most likely find a map
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reply posted on 29-3-2005 @ 06:06 PM by truthseeka
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Originally posted by tempogen
it extends from egypt " the nile " to iraq " the forat " occupies most of lebanon , syria , jordan , palesine - of course - . just search google
u'll most likely find a map
I'm not so sure about this...
In my archaeology class, we talked a little about ancient Israel, but it didn't stretch as far as you mentioned. Even the Bible (for you believers,
not me) mentions that the Israelite kings were always being dominated by the other kings of the region. I've seen artifacts (Assyrian, I believe;
I'm drunk, so spare me) depicting Israelite kings kneeling and paying tribute to the other kings.
Now, the Israelites did venture into Egypt, but they never conquered it as far as I can tell. Egypt, on the other hand, conquered regions of present
day Israel, including Jerusalem. In fact, a number of old civilizations took Israel or parts of it. Basically, I don't believe that ancient Israel
was as big as you or your source maintained...but I could be wrong. 
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reply posted on 30-3-2005 @ 02:24 AM by tempogen
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maybe
hmmm , well i do have a map , and guess what ? the gaza strip is NOT part of the antient kingdom . no wonder they left it " as a positive step
towards the peace process " , however south lebanon , a chunk of syria " damascus is way in the kingdom " and the entire dead sea was part of it
... again i envite you to check it out for yourself ... i even found the map in " microsoft encarta encyclopedia " if you don't trust my sources ,
i'm sure you would trust this one .
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reply posted on 5-4-2005 @ 08:56 AM by BillHicksRules
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Tempogen,
Can you post the map or a link to it?
Cheers
BHR
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reply posted on 7-4-2005 @ 08:19 PM by ghostsoldier
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hmmm...
external image
Thirty years ago, on September 11th 1973, terrorists attacked Chile. They overthrew the oldest functioning democracy in Latin America and installed a
military dictatorship with General Augusto Pinochet at its head. The dictatorship set up concentration camps, suppressed opposition, murdered
thousands, tortured tens of thousands and employed former Nazi Colonel Walter Rauff (who supervised extermination of Jews at Auschwitz) to assist the
elimination of dissidents. This coup was the culmination of a three-year terrorist campaign to destabilize the government that included
assassinations, arson, bombings and economic sabotage.
The terrorist organization that did this is called the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
The FBI defines terrorism as "violent acts… intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, influence the policy of a government, or affect
the conduct of a government."
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These are types of things the US government has done, does do, and will continue to do until its mighty empire collapses from within...
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reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 03:42 AM by BillHicksRules
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Ghost,
This is only one of hundreds of examples of US interventions in the affairs of soveriegn states.
The US in the last 60 years has been the most hypocritical in its dealings with other nations.
Cheers
BHR
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reply posted on 8-4-2005 @ 04:10 PM by verfed
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Is this what your looking for?
note this map is fictional
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reply posted on 9-4-2005 @ 08:44 PM by ghostsoldier
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...
Originally posted by BillHicksRules
This is only one of hundreds of examples of US interventions in the affairs of soveriegn states.
The US in the last 60 years has been the most hypocritical in its dealings with other nations.
Don't think I dont know that, here is a earlier post of mine on this very thread for all those new comers to the discussion:
Originally posted by GhostSoldier
List of US backed terrorism; from most recent
Iraq
2003-Present
Palestine
1948-Present
Iraq
1991-2003
Afghanistan
2001-Present
Colombia
1960s-Present
Yugoslavia
1992-Present
Congo/Zaire
1961-Present
Cuba
1959-Present
Guatemala
1953-Present
El Salvador
1980-Present
East Timor
1975-1999
Haiti
1987-1994
Somalia
1993
Afghanistan
1979-1992
Nicaragua
1981-1990
Panama
1989
Libya
1981-1989
Iran
1988
Grenada
1979-1984
Greece
1964-1974
Chile
1964-1973
Costa Rica
Mid-1950s, 1970-71
Dominican Republic
1963-1966
Vietnam
1945-1974
Cambodia
1955-1973
Laos
1957-1973
Thailand
1965-1973
Italy
1947-1970s
Indonesia
1965
Brazil
1961-1964
British Guiana/Guyana
1953-1964
Iraq
1963
Soviet Union
1940s-1960s
Western Europe
1950s-1960s
Haiti
1959
Indonesia
1957-1958
Middle East
1956-1958
Iran
1953
Germany, Italy, Europe
1950s
Eastern Europe
1948-1956
Albania
1949-1953
Korea
1945-1953
Philippines
1945-1953
Greece
1947-1949
Marshall Islands
1946-1958
Italy
1947-1948
France
1947
China
1945-1951
Hiroshima & Nagasaki
August 1945
Dresden, Germany
February 1945
Japan, Germany, France
1942-1945
Around the world
1800s-1930s
Philippines
1899-1902
America and Africa
1607-1890
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reply posted on 10-4-2005 @ 10:04 AM by tempogen
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hmmm ?
verfed , are you ASHAMED of israel's plans to expand , or are you confused ? hmmm ....... i'm not surprised anyway you can't stand NOT being the
victim now can you ?
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reply posted on 10-4-2005 @ 11:09 AM by Djarums
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tempogen, please don't attack specific members for their opinions.
In an 11 page thread I'd wager there are more than enough issues for you to speak on without turning attention to individuals' characters.
Let's keep it to the topic at hand, which is certainly an important one with lots to discuss.
Thanks!
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reply posted on 11-4-2005 @ 10:15 AM by tempogen
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hmmm
sorry djarum , but i have to be sarcastic when people try to discredit me by being smug . it's nothing personal
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reply posted on 11-4-2005 @ 11:07 AM by lost
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well, im not about to move to China, but i love this thread. i hate that i didnt find it until 11 pages in, but well done 00ps! -for USA & Isreali
sponsered terrorism, the evidence is irrefutable 
finally a thread that says just that, worded so perfectly that even blind patriots cannot ruin the FACT.
*but recognizing there is a badguy at work, doesnt mean you've correctly identified him. dont pick up your gun just yet.
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reply posted on 13-4-2005 @ 02:20 AM by BillHicksRules
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Lost,
Welcome to this thread and I look forward to your future contributions.
Cheers
BHR
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