Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine May Be a Covid-19 Killer

The one small "study" that claims it doesn't work was a joke. And the same people who need to be told not to drink bleach just want to believe anything that makes Trump look bad.

The real studies and trials are yet to be completed.

originally posted by: muzzleflash

Holy crap look at those side effects!

WOW! those are nasty side effects, so I suggest that if you get COVID-19 real bad just stick to your honey, I'm sure all will be good... Guess which nasty drug has these as side effects. Makes Chloroquine look like honey.

Abdominal or stomach pain, cramping, or burning
black, tarry stools
bloody or cloudy urine
change in consciousness
chest pain or discomfort
confusion
constipation
convulsions, severe or continuing
dark urine
decreased frequency or amount of urine
diarrhea
difficult breathing
drowsiness
fainting
fast breathing
feeling that something terrible will happen
fever
general tiredness and weakness
greatly decreased frequency of urination or amount of urine
headache
heartburn
increased thirst
indigestion
irregular heartbeat
light-colored stools
loss of appetite
loss of consciousness
lower back or side pain
muscle cramping and weakness
muscle tremors
nausea or vomiting
nervousness
numbness or tingling in the hands, feet, or lips
panic
rapid, deep breathing
restlessness
seizures
skin rash
stomach cramps
swelling of the face, fingers, or lower legs
unusual bleeding or bruising
unusual tiredness or weakness
vomiting of blood or material that looks like coffee grounds
weakness or heaviness of the legs
weight gain
yell

originally posted by: Phage

That's why they invented gin. With lime, it's a cure for scurvy and malaria.

Isn't this what Trump was talking about? Gin, Windex etc all kill it quickly. That is why Trump has a 160 IQ.

originally posted by: ANNED
Put a little splenda and lime in tonic water and its not bad i have been drinking it for years for leg cramps.

By the way, The local stores were OUT of bottled water but had plenty of tonic water.

I tried it and say F this and just went back to 16 year old scotch straight.

originally posted by: toolgal462
The one small "study" that claims it doesn't work was a joke. And the same people who need to be told not to drink bleach just want to believe anything that makes Trump look bad.

The real studies and trials are yet to be completed.

That study was run by the same mindset of the people who run the presidential poll showing Joe Biden beating president Trump, lol.

a reply to: toolgal462

Several HCQ studies have been completed. With not enough data to say it's a successful treatment. I've been saying this for at least a month now. Why you guys are so hell bent on this being the cure for COVID is beyond me. The data just isn't there.

Feel free to check the studies for yourelf.

This is the list of pending, active and completed trials for Covid-19. Read up. Don't be like the president.

a reply to: carewemust

You mean the FDA?

Because it was the FDA that issued warnings against using HCQ.

originally posted by: carewemust
That study was run by the same mindset of the people who run the presidential poll showing Joe Biden beating president Trump, lol.

This is recent advice from the FDA.

FDA

Oh yeah, it doesn't work and that is why it is currently the most used treatment for Covid.

No, the "trials" are not completed yet.

a reply to: AnonyMason

not hell bent on it being a cure but a help why are you hellbent on it failing?

Trump didn't come up with the idea he didn't even give it to anyone - he read a report and said it looked promising.

Well if it turns out it wasn't beat him up with it. But if it turns out it was you'll probably never mention it again.

The ICU doc's are willing to try it because a doc tried it with a particular type of patient and it worked hundreds of times.
The clinical test is
give it got better or died
don't give it got better or died

Does not mean everyone was a candidate medcram #60 shows a complete sham of a study giving only to terminal ill patients with other problems and saying its a failure.

Let's hope we save lives learn from each lost life and move out of TDS.

originally posted by: toolgal462
The one small "study" that claims it doesn't work was a joke. And the same people who need to be told not to drink bleach just want to believe anything that makes Trump look bad.

The real studies and trials are yet to be completed.

Global survey of physicians: Hydroxychloroquine is "the most effective" treatment for Covid-19.

Source Article: www.thegatewaypundit.com...

April 29, 2020

China patented Remsvidir, the drug touted by Dr. Fauci today?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Fauci likes the drug patented by China, for treating Covid-19, after China's Wuhan laboratory released the Covid-19 virus, that has infected millions of people world-wide.

Just sayin...

FYI: Important Covid-19 Treatment Findings

Hydroxychloroquine-based real world results: docs.google.com...#

Results of an observational study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients

Of 1446 consecutive patients, 70 patients were intubated, died, or discharged within 24 hours after presentation and were excluded from the analysis. Of the remaining 1376 patients, during a median follow-up of 22.5 days, 811 (58.9%) received hydroxychloroquine (600 mg twice on day 1, then 400 mg daily for a median of 5 days); 45.8% of the patients were treated within 24 hours after presentation to the emergency department, and 85.9% within 48 hours. Hydroxychloroquine-treated patients were more severely ill at baseline than those who did not receive hydroxychloroquine (median ratio of partial pressure of arterial oxygen to the fraction of inspired oxygen, 223 vs. 360). Overall, 346 patients (25.1%) had a primary end-point event (180 patients were intubated, of whom 66 subsequently died, and 166 died without intubation). In the main analysis, there was no significant association between hydroxychloroquine use and intubation or death (hazard ratio, 1.04, 95% confidence interval, 0.82 to 1.32). Results were similar in multiple sensitivity analyses.

link

Thought this needed to added to this thread

originally posted by: whereislogic
Odd that this thread died down, it seems like it should be nr.1 on everyone's priority list. I know, by now there are new threads about it, that's how ATS works, but still...

Might it have something to do with what happened concerning these subjects:

a reply to: puzzled2

Note the red-colored part in the first video from Dr. Raoult and compare with what's admitted (again!!!) in the article linked by Grimpachi just before yours. Dr. Raoult mentions (regarding the VA study downplaying HCQ's effectiveness and even attempting to make it appear more dangerous and harmful than it really is):

As the authors acknowledge, the severity of the patients in the different groups was very different, and their analysis can only make sense if there is a selection of patients with the same degree of severity, i.e. the same percentage of lymphopenia.

Also read the context, cause that sentence alone does not emphasize one inconvenient (for Big Pharma) little detail as acknowledged in the article linked by Grimpachi, which mentions (and again quoted by Grimpachi here, hey, at least he's not hiding it, possibly because he doesn't know any better):

Hydroxychloroquine-treated patients were more severely ill at baseline than those who did not receive hydroxychloroquine (...).

Dang it, they did it again.

And it's the same source of publication (the New English Journal of Medicine) as discussed in the 2nd video with Dr. Raoult concerning the pro-Remdesivir marketing/sales-pitch report; another little joke on the sciences by Big Pharma and those most influential in health care.

Leave out the maybe from the thread title, that was already made clear in the period March 9 - 20. Although it's your immune-system that is doing the 'killing'. HCQ+Azithromycin+zinc (+relative amount of copper)+ vitamin C + vitamin D3 just helps out in the right way.

At a later stage in the disease there are more substances that can help, also not used by those fighting on the side of corona, klling people in the process. Cause they can't be bothered to check if the protocol is actually right or designed to get you to fight on the side of corona: criminal negligence leading to involuntary manslaughter.

They are still killing people. And doing everything they can get away with to help spread the disease without it becoming to obvious. And working all angles, left, right and middle (or undefined, so-called "alternative news media" for example). Pushing the right buttons in their target groups, mostly the button labeled "selfishness" (pride is a big one as well, at the moment, racial pride in particular with the demonstrations).

"They" = see previous comment just before "killing people in the process". There are 2 categories though, those doing it on purpose, and those being misled, conditioned and programmed to do this (the latter was a multi-century process, gets a little complicated cause it spans multiple generations, clues can be found in this set of commentary; oh, come to think of it, the former as well).