Was the 2004 Bin Laden Video a Fake? And If it Is.., page 1
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Topic started on 10-3-2005 @ 10:42 PM by worldwatcher
This is not being stated as 100% factual, I really don't know what is, but this is simply my opinion and something I would like to discuss, hopefully without any political tags being involved

This thread is not about the 2001 Bin Laden video in which he claims responsibility for 9/11 that has been discussed in many topics as being a fake. I direct you to these threads, if you are unfamiliar with that discussion (thanks seekeroff)
Google Results on 2001 Fake

Did Osama do it??

Now before I continue, I want you all to know that I have long believed that Osama Bin Laden is dead, most likely shortly after Tora Bora. I find it difficult to believe that a man who requires dialysis could survive so long while on the run and living in caves, but that is besides the point. I want to discuss here the possibility that 2004 Bin Laden video released before the elections was a fake. So I ask you to look at these links:
Is the 2004 Bin Laden Video Tape A Fraud?

www.welfarestate.com...


Now you may ask yourself why is this girl rehashing old videos and Bin Laden after we have all heard that he just recently communicated with Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi, well being that is a conspiracy site and I am conspiracy minded, I feel that that before Bush's presidential term is over we will get official word that Bin Laden has been either captured or killed. No matter what developments happen in Afghanistan and Iraq, this administration will always have the failure of not getting the perpetrator of 911 so in order to say "I told you so" this will have happen.

So back to the video again, after carefully looking at pages and pages of google images of Bin Laden and the site above, I do believe a strong case can be made that man featured in the 2004 video is not the same Bin Laden as in other videos. But the 2001 video Bin Laden and 2004 Bin Laden do share similar features with a broader fatter nose.

Now let's just say that this was true and knowing all the things you know now about Bin Laden and his correspondence including recent ones, and all the chatter, and news stories that hopefully you read here on ATSNN, what exactly do you think we are in for in the next year?

It is obvious that we are being told that an attack is imminent, (hasn't it always been so since 9/11, anyways) Bin Laden is transferring power to Al-Zarqawi, sleeper cells are being mentioned, the usual talk of missing weapons, etc...we even being told that our intelligence is failing, all signs and suggestions that something will go down that will lead to the death or capture of "Bin Laden"

Your thoughts?




[edit on 3-10-2005 by worldwatcher]


reply posted on 22-3-2005 @ 06:06 AM by Psychoses
By World Watcher

Your thoughts?



Don't take offence that no-body replied to your thread immediatatly because thats the way that things have gone on ATS lately.

"Silence is Golden", because it means you have provided irrefutable proof to back up your claims, and even the planted propagander agents which post on this board can't manage any level of damage control!

IMO, if anybody sat down and took the time to look at the differences in the real "Osama" and the one in the video/video's, it wouldn't take them long to realise that something was fishy! The rotting smell gives the perpetrators away.

By World Watcher
It is obvious that we are being told that an attack is imminent, (hasn't it always been so since 9/11, anyways) Bin Laden is transferring power to Al-Zarqawi,


This is just another lie to distract us from the smell of rotting fish. Al-Zarqawi is as bigger ghost as Osama. It all goes back to the WMD's and the Iraq/Al qaeda connection.(they got it wrong)

From Feb 2003,

From linked story
The first connection, Powell is certain to allege, is a one-legged Jordanian wounded in the allied bombing of Afghanistan, who the Bush administration will argue is that missing link. He is Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

Stories about al-Zarqawi have been carefully fed to the media, suggesting his key role as the connection between Osama bin Laden and Saddam. Most of them have been unsourced. And all have been dismissed by those who have followed the career of this veteran of the global jihad, who was fighting for Islam long before the world had heard of Osama bin Laden and whose al-Qaeda credentials have, in part, been created to fulfil the agendas of those who want him for other reasons.

Source


Now getting back to Osama, if you listen to Dubya,

From linked story
US President George W. Bush has said that Osama Bin Laden could be caught in a minute. During a visit to the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) building near Washington, Bush told journalists that they gather data daily on the whereabouts of the al-Qaeda leader, his aide Ayman Al-Zawahiri, and his ally in Iraq, Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi.

Source


So if it's so easy, why isn't this terrorist mastermind being bought to justice? Answers simple! Dubya is not that concerned,

From the 2004 Pesidential debate
"Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations," said Bush, who has repeatedly accused Kerry of being fickle and unreliable on national security issues.

Within moments, the Kerry campaign had sent reporters a quotation from a March 13, 2002 press conference in which Bush said of bin Laden: "I truly am not that concerned about him."

Source



Why would George wan't to capture Osama when he seems to release these video's at such conveinient times? Your guess is as good as mine?

To Rant,

Good photo and well said, as usual.
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