FACT: Coronavirus is AIRBORNE and washing your hands will not protect you

originally posted by: Deplorable
It's airborne ... whether your government wants to admit it or not.

Excellent, you managed to state something nobody has denied or disagreed with yet act like you completely just busted the thread wide open.

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: Deplorable
It's airborne ... whether your government wants to admit it or not.

Excellent, you managed to state something nobody has denied or disagreed with yet act like you completely just busted the thread wide open.

Kind of off-topic, but, how did you manage to miss the post I was replying to?

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation

If you stand next to someone with Coronavirus it won't help you if you wash your hands afterwards...

-MM

Well if they cough or sneeze in your face...

originally posted by: MerkabaMeditation
Don't be fooled by those sources that try their hardest to prevent the truth coming out to the people.

So I should instead listen to cranks on the internet?

Then again, are we not ALL trapped within the same infernal paradox...?

Washing hands is crucial.

This dangerous disinformation should have been hoax binned hours ago.

a reply to: Deny Arrogance

Washing your hands is always prudent.

Let's face it through, our respective gooberments suggesting the obvious, as a precautionary measure, is pretty much a placebo for the masses.

And then came the Santa Anna winds.....

Never mind this particular highly contagious strain, with just a common cold, if someone coughs or sneezes in a room and minutes later, while those infected water micro-droplets are still suspended in the air, you come in contact into your eyes, ears, nose or mouth, it's on.

originally posted by: Deplorable

originally posted by: Ksihkehe

originally posted by: Deplorable
It's airborne ... whether your government wants to admit it or not.

Excellent, you managed to state something nobody has denied or disagreed with yet act like you completely just busted the thread wide open.

Kind of off-topic, but, how did you manage to miss the post I was replying to?

I didn't. Just because they stated it's not as persistent as measles in the air doesn't mean they are saying it isn't airborne. Measles is one of the most infectious diseases around. If sick people wear a mask it helps stop the spread. People that aren't sick should wash their hands.

It doesn't matter. I'm just busting your chops anyway. These ridiculous threads should be in the hoax bin or at a minimum in RATS.

a reply to: Ksihkehe

I'm right there with you.

It's gone way past doom porn at this point.

You're either in full blown hysterics or you get accused of burying your head in the sand.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: MerkabaMeditation

The mainstream news and official health organizations worldwide seems to say that washing your hands will protect you from Coronavirus - which is utterfly false - the Coronavirus is airborne and spreads though the air.

Coronavirus is spread through the air if you are in reasonably close proximity to an infected person , droplets will last longer on surfaces than in the air so the washing of hands is still important

Unlike some extremely contagious pathogens, the virus is not thought to spread via smaller droplets that can remain airborne for long periods of time.

I think this is what is causing the confusion Gorty,
When someone sneezes, the explosion is actually a double whammy, the sneeze produces matter that is often quite visible and heavy, while there is the immediate after effect of really tiny particles that will 'float' mostly upwards at that particular moment, that's a simple fact.
What's not so simple is at up to what point either effects remain contagious in that viral capacity?
What I found fairly directly in the search engine is this,

files.abovetopsecret.com...
'How long do bacteria and viruses live outside the body? - NHSwww.nhs.uk › Common health questions › Infections
18 Feb 2020 - Flu viruses capable of being transferred to hands and causing an infection can survive on hard surfaces for 24 hours. Infectious flu viruses can survive on tissues for only 15 minutes. Like cold viruses, infectious flu viruses survive for much shorter periods on the hands.

I went to that very recent link and found this,

files.abovetopsecret.com...

www.nhs.uk...

The cache shows this,



Basically, it's saying you ain't getting a copy of the original...while the the search engine preamble says it all anyway..

however, it's talking about a 'Flu/Cold virus, although the delivery should be much the same anyway..but the actual page was disappeared why??

Now, the biggie for me was that my local NI BBC news had a local expert? person talking on Wednesday outside of Queen's University, saying that the Corona virus wouldn't contaminate from a hard surface, that's not what government.org is saying, quite the opposite...without actually answering the question..how long?

originally posted by: Ksihkehe
I'm just busting your chops anyway.

With a username like yours ... you had to be. LOL

originally posted by: Plotus
And then came the Santa Anna winds.....

If you are talking about my Missus, I agree, run like feck!

So let’s break down the wash your hands.........

Your in a supermarket and someone with coronavirus sneezes and coughs as they are walking around the same supermarket. Each item you pick up could potentially be infected, but you wash your hands in sanitiser and wear rubber gloves. You get to the TIL and pay for your products - your change could now be infected that you put into your purse so your purse is now infected as are your clothes. If you paid by card and put the card into the card reader - the same card reader that the infected person put their card into then your credit card is now infected.
Again you sanitise you’re hands and go to your vehcle into which you put your infected groceries and sit in with your infected clothes but now you remove your rubber gloves and sanitise your hands.
You get home and remove the infected groceries from your now infected vehicle and take them into your home and put them into your fridge, cupboards and bathroom all of which are now infected - how exactly do you sanitise every single contact and step along this and the subsequent next apparent 9 days that the virus can stay alive

originally posted by: EverythingsWrong
So let’s break down the wash your hands.........

Your in a supermarket and someone with coronavirus sneezes and coughs as they are walking around the same supermarket. Each item you pick up could potentially be infected, but you wash your hands in sanitiser and wear rubber gloves. You get to the TIL and pay for your products - your change could now be infected that you put into your purse so your purse is now infected as are your clothes. If you paid by card and put the card into the card reader - the same card reader that the infected person put their card into then your credit card is now infected.
Again you sanitise you’re hands and go to your vehcle into which you put your infected groceries and sit in with your infected clothes but now you remove your rubber gloves and sanitise your hands.
You get home and remove the infected groceries from your now infected vehicle and take them into your home and put them into your fridge, cupboards and bathroom all of which are now infected - how exactly do you sanitise every single contact and step along this and the subsequent next apparent 9 days that the virus can stay alive

So let's break down wash your hands. You are getting ready to dig in to some fried chicken at your favorite joint. Uh-oh, nature calls. So you go in, drop your pants, clean your bottom, and go to leave. You could wash your hands, but they're just going to get contaminated when you touch the faucet, the towel dispenser, the door handle, the ketchup dispenser, the chair, the tray, and the table. Do you a) wash your hands between taking a dump and eating or b) live by the Coronavirus rule you just cited and chow down on some additional fecal matter? For that matter why even use the toilet at all. There's tiny fecal coliform everywhere. May as well just accept it and start crapping your pants. It's just going to get contaminated again anyway.

Or... we could apply a rational standard like normal people do with every other thing in their life and clean it to remove the accumulation of crap. Jeeesus... nobody is asking you to give up an organ. Wash your hands... after COVID is gone... continue to wash your GD hands. Who ever would have thought something most people learn at 3 years old would become a national crisis because adults are freaking out about it.

a reply to: smurfy

It may depend on the temperature of the surface as to how long the Covid 19 virus can survive i suppose.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: smurfy

It may depend on the temperature of the surface as to how long the Covid 19 virus can survive i suppose.

Exactly, temperature is a factor no matter what else, the thing is, nobody knows quite how for the Corona virus, and the comparisons will actually be against the 'Flu virus.

Look at this search page to see the discourse,



files.abovetopsecret.com...

You can also look at this, 'The Guardian' link from January at the media discourse going on then, that outlines fake news stories,

www.theguardian.com...

and this,
qz.com...

You really have to make your bottom line at the end of the day, and so far the UK guidelines are pretty much there as an overall, but pretty much a good attitude approach thus far of a novel, but also not completely understood virus.
However you are free to make your own caveats, and I wouldn't like to cast aspersions against anyone with a different take on it, if the evidence is there.
My problem is with the BBC's national reporting and regional reporting that has differences.

Former Secretary of State John Kerry told the 2,000 attendees at his Climate Change meeting today to refrain from Sneezing or Coughing.

originally posted by: carewemust
Former Secretary of State John Kerry told the 2,000 attendees at his Climate Change meeting today to refrain from Sneezing or Coughing.

Why did he leave out farting, a rigorous, deleterious form of expulsion?

I am waiting for summer where i live in the Calif desert.
Summer heat and very low humidity will kill Coronavirus quickly and kill the airborne transmission.