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The Critical Thinking Ability of Liberal Media Journalists has Significantly Deteriorated.

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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 11:41 AM
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originally posted by: daskakik

I saw "He could have..." implying a separate scenario.

Now I see that "he wasted it all on ads" brings it back so, I was wrong.


Actually he did come back and say he was poor in math in high school and he is poor in it today too...lol

But this is the fuzzy math that many on the left think works when they talk about redistributing wealth in America. Using your numbers we can make everyone rich if we can only get those evil rich to pay 330 trillion... I think many on the left actually feel this can be done...


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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 11:46 AM
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a reply to: carewemust

Just because two commentators are bad at math doesn't mean they all are.

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 11:58 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Xtrozero

That is assuming the homeless would bother to seek them out.


Well right now they have nothing. Businesses put combos on their bathrooms for paying customers only, so they have nowhere to go but on the streets. Then we complain that they do...lol

From someone who has spent a lot of time in the desert a semi clean porti potty greatly increased my quality of life.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


How is 62 trillion not fuzzy math? How is redistribution of wealth to make everyone well off not fuzzy math? How is stopping all oil use not fuzzy math? How is only taxing the rich to pay for everything not fuzzy math? How is open borders being a good thing not fuzzy math? Pay off everyone's student loans and then provide free college to everyone not fuzzy math? Force businesses to cut all profits in some kind of communal worker scenario not fuzzy math? Federally pay everyone a pay check not fuzzy math? Want me to go on as we pretty much approach the "whole group" mentality...


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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 12:50 PM
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a reply to: Vasa Croe
What was said there about 1M for every US citizen.

The way it was written, in separate lines, made me think that they were talking about something else but then they said "Yet he wasted it all..." which tied it all together.
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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 01:06 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero

I have no doubt that many would in moments 9f clarity, but even people with homes who pay will "water" walls under the influence of a substance and that's a good percentage of your issue.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 01:27 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut

But it’s not just two commentators that are bad at math. It’s the person that originally tweeted it, the multitudes of retweets, and no less than 10 corporate a-holes that had to approve of the message before airing it. It’s scary how effing stupid people have become and for some innate reason stupid people are flocking to the left in disproportionate numbers.
Stupid people never think they’re stupid, hence they never learn. They’ll scream about Russia for years if you let them.
In America you’re allowed to be stupid, hell its a requirement to be a democrat these days.
But the problem is stupid people are condescending, smug, democrat, and demand that the rest of us think like them.
But the rest of us live in the real world and have to manage our money and as a direct consequence, can do basic math.
So Trump types covfeve and the left goes crazy. But guess what?
Trump knows exactly how far $500,000,000 will go.
You lose. You get nothing. Good day sir. I said good day sir.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 01:40 PM
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a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

George Carlin said “think about how dumb the average person is. Now realize that half of them are even dumber.”
Our country is about 50/50 democrat/republican. The left can’t meme, or take a joke, or do basic math(aaand they pass bills to find out what’s in them). I hypothesize that the more intelligent a person is, the more likely they’ll vote republican.
I’ll cite this MSDNC gaffe as an example


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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 01:48 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


How is 62 trillion not fuzzy math? How is redistribution of wealth to make everyone well off not fuzzy math? How is stopping all oil use not fuzzy math? How is only taxing the rich to pay for everything not fuzzy math? How is open borders being a good thing not fuzzy math? Pay off everyone's student loans and then provide free college to everyone not fuzzy math? Force businesses to cut all profits in some kind of communal worker scenario not fuzzy math? Federally pay everyone a pay check not fuzzy math? Want me to go on as we pretty much approach the "whole group" mentality...


All of these are beside the specific point I was making.

You are clearly replying to my post, so I would have expected that your points of argument would most rationally speak to what I was talking about.

The other thing that shows faulty "critical thinking ability" is not speaking to the topic but instead posing 'red herring' points (although they may have validity on their own).

One of your points is easily countered by the fact that 10% of the US population own 99% of the wealth. Most of these top 10% pay almost no tax. It doesn't make sense to collect tax from those who don't have much money when here are people who can afford it, who are paying nothing.

Taxing the rich in ratio with their capital gains makes sense for the nation's economic function.

Also, the Democrats never wanted open borders. I also don't think that many liberals want open borders, either.

Oil is a polluting energy source and its supply is limited. It makes sense to promote other energy sources and not put all your eggs into the one basket. And other energy sources have the possibility of minimizing some of the current pollution problems.

If the 99% of the economy that is currently un-taxed, could be fairly taxed, first world social schemes such as free education and health care are not out of reach and would have zero cost impact on the average citizen.

Socialism is capitalist. There is not the slightest intention of making businesses unprofitable.

A universal basic income would assist the very poorest but would not limit anyone from earning more. It isn't communism. It is capitalist and does not remove the incentive to earn more.

As to the $62 trillion figure you mentioned, I'm not actually sure what that was in reference to (The housing assets owned by those older than 55?)?

Oh, damn, I seems to have answered almost all your points, too.




posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 01:57 PM
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originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

Our country is about 50/50 democrat/republican.


Fortunately that's not the case. Our voting-age population is something like 30% Democrat, 30% Republican, and the rest are Independents or unaffiliated.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:06 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


How is 62 trillion not fuzzy math? How is redistribution of wealth to make everyone well off not fuzzy math? How is stopping all oil use not fuzzy math? How is only taxing the rich to pay for everything not fuzzy math? How is open borders being a good thing not fuzzy math? Pay off everyone's student loans and then provide free college to everyone not fuzzy math? Force businesses to cut all profits in some kind of communal worker scenario not fuzzy math? Federally pay everyone a pay check not fuzzy math? Want me to go on as we pretty much approach the "whole group" mentality...



One of your points is easily countered by the fact that 10% of the US population own 99% of the wealth. Most of these top 10% pay almost no tax.


Source?



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:07 PM
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originally posted by: Guiltyguitarist
a reply to: Guiltyguitarist

George Carlin said “think about how dumb the average person is. Now realize that half of them are even dumber.”
Our country is about 50/50 democrat/republican. The left can’t meme, or take a joke, or do basic math(aaand they pass bills to find out what’s in them). I hypothesize that the more intelligent a person is, the more likely they’ll vote republican.
I’ll cite this MSDNC gaffe as an example


Surely the vast majority of liberals and leftists are academics. Academics are towards the top of the IQ list and are definitely the educated - I mean, it's what they do!

And, really, do you think the creation of funny or insulting pictures an intellectual achievement?

Very many comedians are leftists and liberals. They can take a joke, but they know the difference between a joke and an insult.

They also can do basic math very well.

You see what happens when those further down the 'cognitive ability list' try and reason. LOL.


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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:10 PM
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originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


How is 62 trillion not fuzzy math? How is redistribution of wealth to make everyone well off not fuzzy math? How is stopping all oil use not fuzzy math? How is only taxing the rich to pay for everything not fuzzy math? How is open borders being a good thing not fuzzy math? Pay off everyone's student loans and then provide free college to everyone not fuzzy math? Force businesses to cut all profits in some kind of communal worker scenario not fuzzy math? Federally pay everyone a pay check not fuzzy math? Want me to go on as we pretty much approach the "whole group" mentality...



One of your points is easily countered by the fact that 10% of the US population own 99% of the wealth. Most of these top 10% pay almost no tax.


Source?


You could start here:

Wealth inequality in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Tax Avoidance Costs The U.S. Nearly $200 Billion Every Year [Infographic] - Forbes

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posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: chr0naut


Socialism is capitalist. There is not the slightest intention of making businesses unprofitable.


I'm sorry, but I almost needed the Heimlich after reading that.

Socialism is not capitalist. It's parasitic. It needs capitalism or else it cannot afford to exist. Every socialist society out there has to use capitalism to feed itself or else it cannot survive, but that does not make it capitalist.

Eventually, it runs out of other people's money and it dies.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:14 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: carewemust

Just because two commentators are bad at math doesn't mean they all are.

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


A whole lot more people than “two commentators” were involved in producing that segment

NONE of them noticed their blatantly obvious mistake

ALL of them are thick



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:15 PM
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Another stunning example of democrat genius.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to finish the care packages for when Guam tips over.



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Another stunning example of democrat genius.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to finish the care packages for when Guam tips over.



#WaterWingsForGuamians



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:23 PM
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originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: face23785

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: chr0naut

This type of application of individual faults to whole groups is why the partisan political "critical thinking ability" has also proven particularly poor.


How is 62 trillion not fuzzy math? How is redistribution of wealth to make everyone well off not fuzzy math? How is stopping all oil use not fuzzy math? How is only taxing the rich to pay for everything not fuzzy math? How is open borders being a good thing not fuzzy math? Pay off everyone's student loans and then provide free college to everyone not fuzzy math? Force businesses to cut all profits in some kind of communal worker scenario not fuzzy math? Federally pay everyone a pay check not fuzzy math? Want me to go on as we pretty much approach the "whole group" mentality...



One of your points is easily countered by the fact that 10% of the US population own 99% of the wealth. Most of these top 10% pay almost no tax.


Source?


You could start here:

Wealth inequality in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Tax Avoidance Costs The U.S. Nearly $200 Billion Every Year [Infographic] - Forbes


Where does any of that say the top 10% pay almost no tax?



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:24 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT

originally posted by: Vroomfondel
Another stunning example of democrat genius.

Now if you will excuse me, I have to finish the care packages for when Guam tips over.



#WaterWingsForGuamians


Haha! Little Trump floatie armbands and a MAGA life preserver for the democrats. Make them cling to it to save themselves...



posted on Mar, 6 2020 @ 02:25 PM
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Does anyone know? I keep waiting for the Mars Rover to drive past the American flag and it never happens. Did I miss it?



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