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No one to take care of you - but you. Think about it.

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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 11:09 AM
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I live in Western WA.

I have a friend here in Grays Harbor that's been tested (for Covid of course) and we're waiting for the results.

I've been following the reports coming out of the Life Care Center in Kirkland - and it's appalling.

The man I've been in touch with is doing everything he can to get his father out of the 'care' facility.

He said (and is now getting vocal about it on different websites and social media) - that the facility is not feeding or caring for the patients in quarantine hardly at all... Last time he talked to his father he'd been given a half a sweet potato for dinner. (Heartbreaking)!

My point? Obviously you can't believe anything you're hearing coming out of this area...or most areas concerning this virus.

Another point - if all the 'Health Care Practitioners' are getting sick? Who's left to take care of you?

No one but you.

So call it what you will, the flu, a killer, nothing to worry about?

Just remember there's no one to help you but yourself/family in the end.

Get some water. Some food. Some meds. You don't have to go crazy with it but - at least around here there's a lot of people who're 'prepping' - whether they like to admit it or not.




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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 11:22 AM
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What is happening to your friend’s father sounds criminal, but probably anomalous. I hope things work out for him.
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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 11:27 AM
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a reply to: silo13

People need to think long and hard about this as we are told that we do not have a right to healthcare. And I don't mean in terms of having someone else provide our healthcare. I mean the healthcare we can provide ourselves and our loved ones... the absolute right to nurse, nurture and sustain our bodies with the bounty of the earth.

When the S really HTF, all we will have is ourselves. Healthcare workers are not immune to the same ills that the rest of us are. They won't be there to provide our healthcare because they'll be taking care of themselves (and rightly so).

I don't know if that time is now or not. But if not now, then one day.

People need to know how to take care of their bodies, and have all the resources possible available to do so.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 11:59 AM
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I keep hearing that those who are “prepping” buy large amounts of water.

Why?

Do they really think that municipal water supplies will be cut off if we are all forced into quarantine?

If that were to happen, it is very unlikely that anyone who did not have access to a self-replenishing body of fresh water would be able to stockpile enough water to survive the pandemic.

If things ever get so bad that municipal water supplies are shut down, isn’t it logical to assume that electric and natural gas supplies would be impacted as well?

And if all municipal utilities are shut off, well, that means that the vast majority of of the US population will be forced to eat uncooked meals! for at least the duration of the emergency (probably longer to allow for system checks).

You may not think that a cold meal isn’t such a bad thing. But, think about it. Just how much of our available food supply can be consumed without any form of preparation?

And how long will that supply last?

And if/when untrained and inexperienced people start resorting to wood fires to try to cook the remaining foodstuffs, how many fire emergencies will ensue?

Fire emergencies that will likely go unchecked because...No water!

If they shut off the water, just make sure that you’ve saved the last bullet for yourself.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 12:04 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Healthcare workers are human beings. They are afraid, have concerns, have families.

So I can see them abandoning those they were entrusted to take care of.

It is not right, it is not right at all.

But it is a sad fact we have to face if this virus progresses.

I'll stay to the bitter end, so will my wife, an RN.

Our kids are more fearful for us than of themselves.

My sons are "We're young and can beat this, but you guys are OLD!"



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 12:40 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: silo13

People need to think long and hard about this as we are told that we do not have a right to healthcare. And I don't mean in terms of having someone else provide our healthcare.


You are taking the statement out of context. You have a right to keep and bear arms. You have a right to free speech. Those things don't enslave other people. But when you claim to have a "right" to healthcare, you are saying that someone else has an obligation to provide it for you. They do not. Of course you have the right to take care of yourself. Go right ahead, but that does not require others to provide you with the means to do so.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 12:59 PM
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a reply to: silo13




He said (and is now getting vocal about it on different websites and social media) - that the facility is not feeding or caring for the patients in quarantine hardly at all... Last time he talked to his father he'd been given a half a sweet potato for dinner. (Heartbreaking)!


Sad as it may seem, this probably regardless of coronavirus quarantines.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: Bhadhidar

If they shut off the water, just make sure that you’ve saved the last bullet for yourself.


Such a ridiculously positive post. Wait... Positively a ridiculous post. But, I do enjoy a good doom porn post when I read it.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:08 PM
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a reply to: schuyler


You are taking the statement out of context.


Nope. You are completely missing my context:

...I don't mean in terms of having someone else provide our healthcare.

I specifically mean and stated the healthcare we provide ourselves, which is currently controlled by government regs, not only telling us what we cannot do and cannot have, but what they will do to us with or without or consent.

That's a very big difference. A crucial difference. Especially when life-sustaining substances -- such as high dose Vitamin C or medical marijuana -- is withheld because government has not approved it yet... because big pharma can't make big bucks off of it so no one is interested in researching and developing appropriate protocols. Or, as another poster recently mentioned, forcing synthetic Vitamin K injections onto his/her newborn baby.


But when you claim to have a "right" to healthcare, you are saying that someone else has an obligation to provide it for you.


No, I am not. I have very clearly stated otherwise. I am strictly speaking to the many and varied ways in which government restricts our ability to nurse, nurture and sustain our own bodies... providing our own healthcare.

The same way saying we have the right to bear arms doesn't mean someone else has to shoot the firearm... and saying we have the right to free speech doesn't mean someone else does the talking.

But thank you for putting the exclamation mark on my bigger point: You are so conditioned and dependent on medical providers for healthcare that you cannot even see past that. In your mind, of course we need to depend on them for our healthcare. Only others can provide our healthcare.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:22 PM
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a reply to: JAGStorm

That place should be reported and your friend should get his Father out of there ASAP. It infuriates me when elderly are mistreated in any way.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Your friend needs to go here WA ombudsmen . There are nutrition standards they have to meet. People get fined and go to jail for things like this.

Next, what is everything he can? Is it a nursing care facility, assisted living, senior living? If he is not getting specialized care then your friend can remove him with his consent unless somebody else has power of attorney. If he's quarantined, unless it's by order of the Health Officer of King County, then it's a facility quarantine and not legally enforceable.

PM if you want with more information. Your friend and his father have rights.. I've been involved in multi-agency raids on care facilities and handled many referrals for substandard care. Hope things work out. If it's happening it's inexcusable.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:41 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Times like this bring out the worst in people,
and will also bring out the best.

That care/rest home sounds like it needs an investigation,
there should be an ombudsman to contact hopefully.

Take care!



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 01:55 PM
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a reply to: silo13

Tell him to find a reporter that’s interested .

Then your friend a reporter and the cameraman walk straight up to the door filming.

That should make them stutter .

Hopefully it will also make them more receptive into relatives inquiries .





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posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:17 PM
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King County is giving a 'live' update and they're lying through their teeth.

Going on and on about the 'best' care the patients in the 'facility' are receiving.

Creepy asshats.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:19 PM
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originally posted by: Bhadhidar
I keep hearing that those who are “prepping” buy large amounts of water.

Why?



Because if they plan on 'bugging out' - it's far from the population in areas that have no water/electric - etc.

I have one of those places to go to and yes, I have water there, and more.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:25 PM
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originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: schuyler


You are taking the statement out of context.


Nope. You are completely missing my context:


I get your context. The government is not stopping you from providing your own healthcare. Go ahead. Do it. Drink all the water you want. Buy herbs and pretend you are curing yourself. Eat honey. Do all the rediculusly stupid preventative things suggested by all the ATS pseudo-doctors, because, you know, Big Pharma and all that. Yes, the government is going to prevent you from obtaining drugs you have no idea how or when to use. Opioids are going to be restricted. But there is nothing preventing you from clearing the shelves at a GNC or getting literally anything you want off the Internet.

The thing is, if you screw up you'll be the first complaining that you were allowed to buy the stuff that poisoned you.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:26 PM
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originally posted by: silo13
No one but you.

Got no wife or kids, so I'm already pretty much responsible for my own health. I don't immediately go running to the doctor every time something happens to me, only something that might require surgery. Otherwise, it's stay in bed and crawl out to the kitchen or bathroom if I need to recycle some fluids.

Someday something will probably happen to me where I'm not able to get help and I'll end up dead on the floor.

And that was life.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:52 PM
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a reply to: Bhadhidar

Ha!

I had the same question. Why the hell are they buying out bottled water? Makes no sense.

Buy more food!



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: schuyler

Looking up peer reviewed published medical research isn't rocket science. Neither is looking up side effects, adverse outcomes, contraindications, and all that good stuff. Knowledge is good. Knowledge is self-defense. Knowledge is empowerment. Especially when one is dealing with a medical condition affecting their health and well being.

Further, FDA approved medications and treatments are not and never will be guaranteed to be efficacious for everyone. It is well known and established that works for some doesn't work for others. So there is -- and always will be -- a need for multiple options.

It is well known that many medical conditions are caused by nutritional deficiencies... therefore vitamins and other nutrients can in fact be the cure. The recommended amounts established are minimum, not optimal. So the RDA for Vitamin C is the amount needed to keep scurvy away, not necessarily the best or optimal value your body needs. Likewise for Vitamin D and rickets... Vitamin A and night blindness... and so on. Obviously, vitamins, minerals and other nutrients are crucial for our health, so of course they can also be healing.

We also know that many illnesses are associated with a certain vitamin deficiency, which can aggravate the condition and cause complications, such as measles and Vitamin A.

And, of course, most medications are created from (or inspired by) plants... herbs and weeds. Aspirin from willow bark. Foxglove for heart medication. Ephedra for colds and asthma. It's not like Big Pharma brings anything new to the planet to work with. All they've got is what's already here.

If you want to put all your eggs in one basket and depend on others for your health and life, okay. That's your right and your choice and I have no desire or inclination to stop you. Do you. I'll do me. And let's just make sure that everyone has the right to make the same choice for themselves.



posted on Mar, 4 2020 @ 04:19 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I understand your point - but I can't condone it.

If you're not willing to act in just these kind of situations?

If you're going to run and hide or worse treat your patients with a disgusting level of care?

You need a new job.

I've done *bleep* while working in the Emergency Medical Profession that I never would have thought I would do. Does that make me a hero? NO! It proves I'm well trained and willing to do my job.

That's what Emergency medicine, and medicinal care in general is all about.
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