a reply to: incoserv
Thank you for your considered questions.
Where to start? OK. I guess that in order to give you "my ''reasons I will need to open up to you a bit. I have taken this approach only a few times
here before only to be reproached with stuff like '' so that makes you an expert'' kind of stuff.
Sadly this explanation has been leveled against Trump with no effect on his supporters. Anyway here goes.
In my early twenties, I'm now in my early seventies, I was connived into a cult. Four year later I managed to extricate myself and my mind from it's
clutches though the programming took many more years to eradicate. During that period, once I was out I not only read extensively about cults and
cultists but the psychological underpinnings of belief systems and how they can imprison a persons mind. Physical prison is one thing but belief
systems can imprison a mind as well.
I needed to know what had happened to me. How I had been conned into action upon a number of beliefs that I had previously held and how those previous
beliefs had been used to alter my manner of thought to fit with the teachings and offerings of the cult. I did not want to be fooled again.
As I studied specific cults I began to become aware of just how similar they are, ''though teachings may vary''. This expanded into my understanding
that cults grow into larger belief systems that after time lose the ''cult'' classification and develop into religious and other types of programming.
The more I studied the more I began to look at much of modern society as having sprung from roots that when looked at in hindsight, were really just
cults that had ''grown up.''
One thing I learned is that there are two types of cult leaders. There are cult leaders who believe what they are teaching and then there are those
who do not. Those who do believe what they are teaching can convince themselves that the skulduggery they end up doing is part of the higher picture
they believe in and hence that skulduggery is justified by the greater good being done as they see it. I kind of think this may be the case with the
Clintons. I said maybe.
There is the other kind of cult leader which is the cult leader who does not and never has believed in what he is espousing.
This is the con man, the carnival barker. This is the man who will say or do anything to achieve his own goals, what ever those goals are. In this
light, I then studied con men of history from the small to the large?
I recall seeing Clinton, who until that time, climb on stage of the Tonight Show or what ever show that was and play his saxophone. I thought to
myself at that moment, what a devious tactic, to show how '' cool'' he is, and sure enough, within two weeks he had soared from 5th in the race to
leading the pack. I also recall when he was stepping off of the plane and was descending the steps when the question was first put to him about one of
his alleged sexual affairs and he answered no he had not had this affair. I looked at his face and his eyes and knew he was lying.
So, Trump. Yeah, I had watched climbers to the throne, one after another through most of my life acting out that first kind of cult leader I
described, the one who maybe believed at first what they were representing until the power that was given them over road their better intentions,
waiting, waiting for that second type of cult leader to be lifted up and placed there by those who were being used, just as most of us are by
politicians, in the Big Cat Seat.
At first I had slim hope that he was not this way. That maybe his experiences in business rather than government could offer us a better more
efficient way of running our government. That didn't last long for me though.
Then I began to watch how he presented himself. ''I am the only way'' I am the only one who can fix America'' That kind of stuff. Me me me.. I can fix
it because I know all the good people. Crapola.
One by one I watched him list off the rallying cries of a disgruntled group of conservatives. He fed all of those beliefs right back at those who
ended up supporting him. Just like I had learned about how cult leaders work. Feed them what they already believe and channel it through yourself.
Classic cult leadership 101.
Back to the Clinton's though. Their cult was begun two decades before Trump started his. For all my study and self training I had and always
considered them both to be of that first kind of cult leader, though I will admit that even with all of that, I could have been wrong and as well
admit that there is a strong likelihood that I have been, wrong.
Biden? Agggg. What a schmo. Sure he may have been trying to do his best for the American people over the years. Sure, maybe. But his reliance on his
time with Obama reeks of culthood. I have little doubt that Obama's following was massively cultish as well. Massively.
So, yes, in many ways they are all the same to me. However one thing stands out still to me. Competency. Clinton at least was competent in his filling
his roll. As was Bush one. Bush two , though incompetent himself, at least allowed for competency around him, though the direction of that competency
is food for another discussion. (Short side note on Bush two,,,I recall a couple of his early speeches to large crowds. He would stand there giving
his talk with little effect on the audience, he was not a particularly emotive speaker. Then he would say, ''God Bless America'' and the audience
would go wild. Twice I saw him do that early on and both times , as the crowd he would turn and look off stage to his handlers with that little smirk
of his as if to say'' look at this , you were right, all I have to do is say ''God Bless America'' )
Obama as well, at least there was a high degree of competency and THAT also for good or bad still demonstrated an acceptable degree of competency for
This guy though is in another ball park entirely. I see him as incompetent. Please don't ask me for my list of reasons.