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For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard.
Science is lack of spirituality in many cases. Science is imbalanced.
Originally posted by Produkt
Spirituality in what regards? Belief in a higher power or upholding certain values and morals? People without the belief in a higher power still uphold values and morals ... believe it or not. A book or faith in a higher power is not a requirement for these trait's. So, in that light, yes, thing's are balanced the way they are. Then again, if you mean the belief in a higher power, then no, thing's aren't balanced in that regard, it's evidently tipped in FAVOR of that belief system.
So, which are you refering too?
Originally posted by JungleJake
TheCrystalSword, while I agree with some of the sentiment, I disagree with gnosticism at its core. I suspect that was obvious with my dismissal of Hellenistic thought being in tune with God's character, but I'll explain, in small part, why.
The principle behind gnosticism, as far as I understand it, is to discover "secret" knowledge, to achieve enlightenment. The posts I've read of yours seem to herald this as the primary goal of humanity, why we were created. I would have to disagree on a Biblical stance.
Everything in the Bible points to glorifying God. Yes, there is a lot about wisdom, but a different kind of wisdom. Not a wisdom of gaining knowledge that no others, or few, have, but instead a wisdom of God's character, and wisdom concerning sharing that knowledge of God's character. In Christianity there is no secret knowledge, but instead knowledge that must be shared.
The primary problem with enlightenment being humanity's purpose is that it directly contradicts much of the Bible, where we are called to give glory to God, and not to ourselves. Our purpose is to glorify Him, not to enlighten ourselves.
Neither. Spirituality is it's OWN moral, not living a moral life with the other principles. It is it's OWN principle. It also is not attached to "GOD". It is Spirituality.
The belief in Science that Spirituality needs eradication because it is flawed thinking is Arrogance
Originally posted by kenshiro2012
Just to add a bit of fuel to the fire.
A private citizen in the US is / was funding the creation of a new town near Naples, Fla. that would be governed by Christian principles such as Birth control would not be sold and X rated movies would not be shown on the town's cable tv.
This was the news yesterday. Now the ACLU has stepped up to the plate and threatened lawsuits against everyone under the sun if they went ahead with the project. Now, store owners will only be asked not to sell birth control and cable companies will only be asked not to show x-rated movies.
The idela of this privately funded project and the residents would have been people who wnated to live in this type of community. In the US, we allow Muslims, Mormons, etc, to create their own communities that dictate how things will be done in their communities. This cannot be said to be true for a Christian community. If a such a communiuty is proposed... the ACLU steps up and starts crying discrminiation.
How can you say that there is NOT an Anti-Chritian movement in the US?
notice something???? Here let me point it out to you. Privately funded.... and residents would be people who wanted to live in suc a community. So my question to you.... How does your example address my post? How does the ideals of such a community impinge on your or your girlfreinds rights? I do not see the corelation.
The idela of this privately funded project and the residents would have been people who wnated to live in this type of community.
take your ignorance outside please. the bible belt alone shows that there are parts of america where you cannot walk around without bumping in to some biblic cheerleader.
Those people are zealous to win you over, but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us, so that you may be zealous for them.
They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires, always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
Originally posted by kenshiro2012
You state that the issue was the Christians setup these projects where "regular people" live. Where in the news article that I submitted did you find this information? Did you use another source? Please feel free to provide it so as to support your rant. I would like to see it.
You also failed to address the point that I brought up that such communities are allowed for such groups as Muslims, Mormons etc. The ACLU would be one of the first to come out and support such groups and anything that impeded these groups from founding their communities, The ACLU will be crying discrimination etc.Yet, when a Christian group attempts to do the same thing.... the ACLU immediately is against the Christian group and threatens lawsuits to prevent the Christian group of setting up thier own community. How is this not Anti-Christian? How is it not a double standard?
the only ignorance that has been presented by either of us has been done on your part to support your hatred / predjudice of things Christian.
any hatred is only directed at people like you because you come up with rubbish like anti-christianity, just because someone won't let you have your own community. i honestly believe that no one should have their own communities. what ever happened to living side by side? now i can't live next to a muslim or black person, because they should all have their own communities. yeah, nice try hitler!
If you have absolutely no faith, you are imbalanced. The people with faith also tend to be imbalanced in various different ways.