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Originally posted by spamandham
Unless of course, they are. The Catholic church considers itself the ultimate authority, not the Bible.
(to be fair, salvation by works is not part of the Catholic faith, but a lot of Catholic laymen seem to think it is)
Originally posted by apocalypticon
Hey Saint4God,
I haven't posted enough to be able to reply to your u2u, but the answer is "Yes" and no, I don't mind you asking How about you?
The mods may doc me points for this, but I didn't want to leave your question unanswered.
Originally posted by truthseeka
Truthseeka: "But, but, they tried to give Christians 47 years in prison for protesting a gay parade..."
Saint: "Well, we don't know all the facts here, maybe there's another reason they got in trouble."
Originally posted by saint4God
After reading more into that event, I believe there was physical obstruction and infridgement on the parade's right to safe passage in a public setting and their right to free speech. No matter what your belief system is, in this country that's illegal. It wasn't a "targeting against Christians" nor do I feel the Christians had conducted themselves properly in this incidence. In this case, I see no conspiracy.
Where I do see the anti-Christian sentiments (a precursor to conspiracy) is in your language of "you Christians" and verbs such as "whining" and "crying" to describe people speaking on a particular belief. What do you mean exactly by "you Christians"? And, why is our exercise of free speech "whining" while the gay parade is "exercising their rights"? Do you see the double-standard yet?
[edit on 31-10-2005 by saint4God]
Originally posted by jfdarby
Hay, Saint4God Is Truthseeka tiring to save us from something that I Don't know about.
If he has something we need to know, why is he saying it in such am Angry way, He sounds so mad at us..
Originally posted by jfdarby
I have read some of his thoughts here and other threads and it seams that he really doesn't want to help us or even like us, At lest that is the way I see him when he is trying to help us so much.
Originally posted by jfdarby
Just to be safe and for not the argument and the bad tone I see in his threads, I won't talk to him and maybe he'll leave me alone in what I like to talk about...
Originally posted by saint4God
S/he is mad at us, but it's misdirected anger. Once you get used to that, it's a lot easier to work with.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
that's the one thing i hate about christians,
Originally posted by shaunybaby
you act like people are only ever mad at you, and this in some way means there's an anti-christian conspiracy, hence proves somewhere in the bible that it's true because this is how christians would be treated...
Originally posted by shaunybaby
jesus christ,
Originally posted by shaunybaby
get a grip people, this is reality, stop living in your dreamworlds, you're going to die and that's it, get used to it, your beliefs are pathetic.
that's the one thing i hate about christians, you act like people are only ever mad at you, and this in some way means there's an anti-christian conspiracy, hence proves somewhere in the bible that it's true because this is how christians would be treated...jesus christ, get a grip people, this is reality, stop living in your dreamworlds, you're going to die and that's it, get used to it, your beliefs are pathetic.
Originally posted by saint4God
Person with misdirected anger #2. Anyone else?
Why do I say misdirected? Shaunybaby, what have I personally done to you (personally) that would cause any kind of hate whatsoever?
Actually per my posts, I point out who the "anti-Christians" were. I don't believe you were part of that group. I do think it ripples out into some anti-Christian sentiments that's picked up by society.
Well, no Anti-Christian sentiments here I guess . Time to move along.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
how can it be misdirected, when it's directed at something specific?
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Why do I say misdirected? Shaunybaby, what have I personally done to you (personally) that would cause any kind of hate whatsoever?
i watched a program on some hindu festival, and some people believe they need to do certain things to rid themselves of sins from passed lives. one act is they put cow pats around themselves in a circle, set alight the cow pats, and sit in the circle for 3 hours a day for a given period of time, to liberate themselves from sin. now this doesn't cause any kind of hatred within me, it strikes me as an insane belief, and these people are on the verge of masturbating in their own faecal matter and being institutionalised. the sheer stupidity of these beliefs drives me insane.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Actually per my posts, I point out who the "anti-Christians" were. I don't believe you were part of that group. I do think it ripples out into some anti-Christian sentiments that's picked up by society.
but why is this anti-christianity a conspiracy? just because someone doesn't like christianity doesn't mean it's a conspiracy.
Originally posted by shaunybaby
Well, no Anti-Christian sentiments here I guess . Time to move along.
always time to move along, as you know i'm right, hence the moving along before you realise.
Originally posted by saint4God
Your issue isn't even with Christians my friend, it's with what God said/did/is, so it sounds to me like you're lashing out on His followers.
I ask again, what have I personally done to you (personally) that would cause any kind of hate whatsoever?
I know that. There's two things going on. The anti-Christians, and the influence of the anti-Christians. I can clearly pin out who the anti-Christians are and what they're conspiring against (as mentioned earlier in the thread). I hadn't met very many anti-Christians on ATS, but this place is chock full of residue/influence.
I don't like being non-progressive, but if you think it's progressive, okay, we can revisit the same arguments over and over again. My point was it is clear to me that you have anti-Christian sentiments (not saying you're an anti-Christian yourself). If I'm wrong feel free to correct.
Originally posted by iamian
Give us a break!, fine all ppl have the right to believe what they want to,
but what bugs me about some Christians, are there self rightous, patting on the head, matter of fact way they talk to ppl who dont believe in christianity, you say things like: " you belive in your own path my friend, but dont forget that God will judge you? " you Patronise ppl who hold a different view, and fool yourself into a dilousion of authority, and let me tell you that there's no hatred in my heart, just disapointment.
Your a defender of your faith, tapping his fingers on his computer desk dribbling with anticipation waiting to correct differing opinions,