Originally posted by lightseeker
You keep saying this, but never supply any evidence, or proof, for saying or believing it. How did you come to this conclusion? Matthew, John & Peter
were all eyewitnesses as they were Jesus disciples for along time and pretty much knew what they were talking about.
this is just another misconception christians have about their own religion, just like christians telling me moses wrote the first 5 books of the old
testament, which has been proven by bible scholars to be false. i could post some links and some information about that if you would like, but on to
the four gospels.
you must understand that the four gospels were not written by any of jesus' desciples. this again has been proven and is a widely accepted fact
between bible scholars. go to any university and do a theology degree and you are likely to learn these to facts about who wrote the bible. we don't
know who wrote the first 5 books of the old testament, nor do we know who wrote the four gospels, they are anonymous and the titles of the gospels
were added afterwards; to enforce the belief that these were written by jesus' disciples.
during their time it was not unusual to attribute writings to well-known people, hence the disciples, to lend authority to them. which is why you
believe they are by the disciples and must be true. mark is thought to be the oldest as both matthew and luke quote directly from mark, sometimes
copying whole passages. now tell me if these authors were with jesus at the time, why were two of them copying and quoting from 'mark', did they
take his journal one night and copy down what he said?
it is believed that these gospels were written around 70 AD, which would coincide with jews revolting against the romans, hence this was a time of
crisis for the christian movement. most of the people that were around when jesus was were dead. these followers died with the promise that jesus
would return in their lifetime, yet he did not. matthew mark luke are believed to be written between 70 AD and 80 AD, which was the same time as many
started to wonder if jesus would ever return.
if you read mark, then read matthew and luke on the same thing mark is talking about then you will see many paralles. this is also why it is believed
these gospels were written after jesus ascended to heaven, because of the vast amount of copying. if these were documents written as eyewitness
accounts, they would not be quoting and copying from mark.
Jesus predicted that there would be wars, the persecution of the Christians by the Jews and civil authorities, conflicts within families, and the
appearance of false messiahs before the return of Jesus. these things were already happening at the time Matthew, Mark, and Luke were writing their
gospels. At the end of these chapters, Matthew, Mark, and Luke claim that Jesus reassured his disciples with these words, Truly, I say to you, this
generation will not pass away before all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. their generation
did pass, and jesus has not lived up to his promise...he lied. bend the truth as much as you want, but it is what it is and that is a promise that
jesus never kept.
so mark, matthew, luke were written to reassure christians that jesus was coming back and should stick to their beliefs. john is believed to have been
written around 90 AD to 100 AD, when all of jesus' followers had died, even his 'beloved disciple', who apparently wrote 'john'. it is also
believed that the author of john was greek, and we know that any one of jesus' disciples were greek, this is mainly because of the style john is
As you read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, you should be aware that much of what is written was intended to convince readers about "who Jesus was."
Matthew, Mark, and Luke intended to "prove" that Jesus was the "messiah" expected by the Jews. They used stories of "miracles" performed by
Jesus as "signs" of his messiahship, and they quoted writings (taken out of context) from the Hebrew Bible to show that Jesus fulfilled alleged
"prophecies" concerning the expected messiah. There is no need to believe that these "miracles" really happened or that these alleged
"prophecies" related to Jesus because history has proved that Jesus was not the Jewish messiah. The miracle stories and the alleged prophecies have
i hope this helps. information from myself, what i have learnt, and from reading many upon many websites.