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How will the DNC remove Bernie?

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posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: IAMTAT
How will the DNC try to get Bernie out?

It's already started...we just need to pay attention.

The DNC is ALREADY saying RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA is colluding with Bernie to give him the nomination.

While it failed against Trump...they're polishing it off again for Bernie...and adjusting for the mistakes they made in the past.


LOL maybe LOL. Next we can see Stormy Daniels saying Bernie likes to wear his ushanka while messing around. LOL and we got no doubt with his Soviet leanings he would put pressure on Ukraine LOL.




posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein


I have a great life. I'm a former New Yorker from Brooklyn and I now live on 30 acres of beautiful countryside in rural middle Tennessee. I'm raising my family and I'm self employed. I pay my taxes and get our insurance through the Affordable Care Act.

I'm a classic liberal who loves freedom and equality and I've been supporting Sanders since the 2016 election.
I'm surrounded by conservatives - and that's ok. People are people and the people around here wear their ideologies on their sleeve and easy to understand - and that's ok.


So what is it that Bernie offers you to make your life better other than to raise your taxes? I understand the medical and that needs to get fixed, but not the 60 trillion fix. We should allow people like you to buy into plans as groups that do not cost an arm and a leg. I was just talking to my friend last night who is a independent business owner, and she told me she pays 1500 per month that has a 5000 deductible, and that is just crazy and needs fixing. I work for a company that provides me free Blue/Cross blue shield with 30 bucks copay, so I'm not sure how they do it and independent business owners can't as a co-op.



Capitalism is like a great game of monopoly. Back in the 50's everyone was doing good in the game and had a great time playing it. But then things started to monopolize with the exponential growth of the wealth gathering. So, rules where made over and over again to protect the out of control 'game'. Now, it should be painfully obvious to everyone that the game is almost over, and only 1% 'won'.


Did you lose? Game over for you that you are not 1%? You do not think in Bernie's world there isn't a 1%? It is actually worse...Is that 1% driving you down to where you can't take care of your family, they holding you back from having a quality of life, by your opening statement I think not. Everyone talks about the one percent, but no one can really put a finger on how they personally negatively affect them. Many of the past "evil" rich are now a new breed of people, plus to be in the 1% it is like 400k per year...is that rich to you? If someone provides a stable quality of life for lets say 1500 families and in doing so they make 10 million a year is that Wrong/Bad/Evil capitalism?



He's 100% spot on.
There is no way America can say it is the best country in the world. We have allowed out of control capitalism to destroy or lives.
Ever have a Mexican Coke? Or a Coke from Europe? They have natural sugar and no corn syrup. Why is this important?

Because corn syrup was first introduced in the middle of the last century as a product to make cows fatter.
It wasn't until out of control capitalism allowed money to flow from lobbyists to lawmakers to enact laws that this cheap and dangerous product was introduced into our food supply.
The rest of the civilized world marks corn syrup as dangerous and not allowed. We don't, of course, since using it saves the corporations about 3 cents. And that 3 cents adds up to billions.
And with a hugely misinformed and hugely obese society, going about with the destructive lifestyle that they have been raised from birth - indoctrinated - to believe that it is good, we are good, and we are the best - well the cognitive dissonance is astoundingly obvious to me. Add to this fact is that the unhealthy American lifestyle has fueled the corrupt healthcare industry. The whole thing is a disgusting mess - and we can do better.


I don't drink Coke, but I get your point, and so what? I can buy Mexican Coke in my local grocery store right now if I wanted it. There are also a ton of "craft" sodas that use all kinds of sugars outside of corn syrup, hell how about kola nuts, real sugar, and sparkling water...hows that for selection?

Now here is a sticky point in all this, pardon my pun... There is no difference between the fructose and glucose in sucrose, the white stuff derived from sugarcane, and the fructose and glucose in HFCS, and the body can’t tell them apart during metabolism. Experts say that cane sugar is no healthier than corn syrup....

So people get fat on both...I personal beieve corn syrup is bad for the body, but I also see real sugar as bad too since it is also process. I tend to use sugars like agave or raw honey, and lately I replaced my coffee creamer with Superfoods that is very sweet and works nicely in my coffee, and it has...


Contains a wholesome blend of fruits, veggies, greens, mushrooms and sprouts
Supports lean muscle with 6g of vegetarian, plant-based protein
Enhanced with an adaptogenic mushroom blend with six types of organic mushrooms


With all this said many might not believe sugar and corn syrup is about the same, AND that is OK since you have a plethora of selections to chose from. There is over 1000 sodas alone and most likely another 1000 of non-soda types.

SO this brings me to my main point...

We would not have this selection if it was controlled by the Goverment. Choice my friend is freedom, the Goverment telling you what you WILL eat is not freedom. No one is telling you to eat corn syrup, BUT the Goverment would most likely tell you. Its like Goverment cheese, doesn't taste or smell like cheese, but the Goverment say it is and its free. WEEeee

Have you ever spent time in a extreme socialist/communist country? shelves are basically bare and people line up not even knowing what is available for them to buy, SEE even in a Communist country you need to buy things, its just that not much is available. Go to a grocery store in Japan or even France and tell me what selection you got even there.

Bernie is truly a lack of choice and a lack of freedom...You need to stop being a Democrat and become a libertarian...



Tuition Free Higher Education.


The average US college loan is 30k, which is better than England's now and not much more than even Sweden's 22k loan average that boast 100% free education, so what do you want?

The bottom line is if you can not pay off a measly 30k being in a professional career, I don't know what to say. So you drive a crap car for 5 years and pay that puppy down. 30k in 2020 is about equal to 10k in 1980 and being a low rank military person back then I bought a 12k car and paid it off...so what the hell is really the big problem here?

Wait I know...they buy into a crap degree that is not related to the business world and so even though the University says their degree is a 100k job it is not, it is actually worth nothing. If you are not getting job hits from companies by the end of your junior year you are in a crap degree, and who caused all that? THE UNIVERSITIES!! that's who.

If you are not smart enough to do a real degree don't do a dumb down one that is worthless, become a plumber and make that 100k per year before you even would have graduated....just saying.

The way I see this is, should we also pay off everyone's time share, maxed credit cards and other poor decisions people have made in their life too?

I say HELL NO!




We need to legalize marijuana at the federal level.


Really? Reset everything for Pot? Its legal in my state and in 10 years it will be also legal in most of America AND it will go federal at some point, Bernie will have nothing to do with this if he is President, the path is already set, and is well on its way.




edit on 23-2-2020 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:15 PM
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I think the dem's best chance of defeating Bernie
is to narrow the field to one or two other candidates.

he's going to get his 40% or so. too many others splitting the remaining vote.

all the dem candidates are flawed. one of them will make a deal with the behind-the-scenes bunch and the others will be 'coaxed' to drop out.

wouldn't be surprised to see nobody get 51% thus an open convention...which could let Hillary back in.

worst case scenario, Bernie wins the majority in enough elections to win the nomination outright and the dems will be stuck with him.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: ElGoobero
I think the dem's best chance of defeating Bernie
is to narrow the field to one or two other candidates.

he's going to get his 40% or so. too many others splitting the remaining vote.



Super Tuesday will pretty much show the path forward. I don't think they can overcome Bernie now as they did when it was just him a Hillary. Biden, Butts, Bloomberg are going no where anything soon and when Warren drops next her 10% will go to Bernie.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:53 PM
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a reply to: Xtrozero


Really? Reset everything for Pot? Its legal in my state and in 10 years it will be also legal in most of America AND it will go federal at some point, Bernie will have nothing to do with this if he is President, the path is already set, and is well on its way.


You are correct. All of these progressive ideas, health care, education, ect. Should be implemented individually at the State level for their residents. Each state can then tweak and correct issues on a smaller scale when they occur. If and when a positive working implementation becomes obvious, all will follow suit to keep relevant and progressive.

Bernie is too extreme. I can definitely see the DNC letting him run knowing he cannot beat Trump, in the hopes that his supporters will be grateful come 2024 when they will actually have a chance with no incumbent President.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 02:29 PM
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originally posted by: CynConcepts


You are correct. All of these progressive ideas, health care, education, ect. Should be implemented individually at the State level for their residents. Each state can then tweak and correct issues on a smaller scale when they occur.


Isn't this the truth in about 75% of what we see as federal that should be state level and was in the past? Federal doesn't mean good....



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:24 PM
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a reply to: EmmanuelGoldstein

You have some very valid observations, but a president Bernie wouldn't be able to change any of that. Neither Republicans nor Democrats support 99% of his ideas or goals and would fight everything he proposes.

We've already seen what happens when one party refuses to work with the other and support the POTUS. Both parties refusing to work with the POTUS would make for an extremely ineffective and torturous four years.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:32 PM
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originally posted by: Halfswede

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: pteridine

The conventional wisdom is Bernie can't beat Trump in the general. So all you right wingers can let your sphincter's relax.


None of them can. To be fair, if Trump is such a terrible terrible pres. How can they not seem to put up a single electable contender? Methinks the majority of people disagree with the narrative in spite of the media trying so hard to spin it.


This isn't about replacing Trump because he's done good things for our country, it's about replacing him because they hate him. That's all it's been about since he was elected. They cannot dispute the success and how much better off we are in almost every metric so they have to run against his personality. That's all they have, folks, that's all they've ever had.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: Finspiracy
The usual arguments against Sanders fail big time.

For a common American, Sanders is a soviet style communist. And where is the money taken from, for his socialist policies?

Just throwing a god damn wild idea here: what if you (USA) cut your defense budget (which is in fact an attack budget) in half.

After that, every American will have access to food, shelter and medicine. And you still have money left to murder everyone who is not American.



If we cut our defense budget in half, our budget deficit would still be over $600B.

Maybe try some facts instead of anti-American propaganda. You can start with the link in my sig about the US military budget. You've been misled about it.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:42 PM
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Bloombergs gets FR to print more bribe $$$



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:44 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

I wouldn't mind Trump vs Bernie, I think Trump would win easily. Bernie would have no money to compete and his ideology would imploid the economy and a lot of people are riding the trump economy, they don't want it to go away.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:45 PM
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originally posted by: Finspiracy

After that, every American will have access to food, shelter and medicine. And you still have money left to murder everyone who is not American.


Then who would defend YOUR oil? America is self-sufficient in oil. In fact, we are a net exporter. All the Middle Eastern oil goes to the EU and Japan, two groups who don't even have standing armed forces. Why should they? America will provide. While you are polishing your nails America is out there making sure you get the oil you need to get to work.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 04:53 PM
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Now here is a sticky point in all this, pardon my pun... There is no difference between the fructose and glucose in sucrose, the white stuff derived from sugarcane, and the fructose and glucose in HFCS, and the body can’t tell them apart during metabolism. Experts say that cane sugar is no healthier than corn syrup....


That is not true. HFCS is not the same nor does it have the same effect on our body and I am living proof of it. I was going to link a bunch of sites to back up my belief but there are so many others that are trying to protect the food industry from it that it's going to be up to the individual to sort through the BS if you even want to look it up.

So what is my proof? In 2007 I had a blood test for life insurance. It came back with Triglycerides of 1300+. Yes, one thousand, three hundred plus. Strangely enough my LDL and HDL have never been that bad. So I started researching and at the time it was hard because there wasn't much information about it. I did find some at the Mayo Clinic site that questioned the use of HFCS but there wasn't enough evidence to determine one way or another.

I spent the next few months looking at our food with shock because it is in just about everything because it's cheaper and has a longer shelf life. Which is odd because I've had a bag of sugar in my cupboard for several years and it's still fine. I just don't use that much. So I stopped drinking pop, Mt. Dew specifically, and stopped buying everything that we normally ate that had it as an ingredient. Without taking meds or changing our actual eating habits, just using things with natural sugar instead of HFCS, my Tris dropped to 600 within six months. It's just one factor of many but in thirteen years neither I nor my doctors can come up with any other answer that has lowered my Tris besides stopping using HFCS. So I don't care what this scientists or that scientist says, there is more and more evidence in the last few years showing that it is dangerous to our bodies.

Before anyone jumps me on this, it's not going to affect everyone the same. I've also learned that over the last few years of health issues and trying to figure out why this and why that with meds and supplements, and genetics.

So what does this have to do with Bernie's chance of winning the Democrat nomination? I think it's the same as the sugar debate - it's marketing. The DNC can't afford to have Bernie as their nominee, but they may not have a choice unless they cheat again. They got caught cheating the last time, I still don't think that will stop them from cheating and installing someone other than Bernie in the end.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 05:04 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: CynConcepts


You are correct. All of these progressive ideas, health care, education, ect. Should be implemented individually at the State level for their residents. Each state can then tweak and correct issues on a smaller scale when they occur.


Isn't this the truth in about 75% of what we see as federal that should be state level and was in the past? Federal doesn't mean good....


Exactly right. Including entitlement programs, which make zero sense at the federal level. Whatever you set the income level at at which the benefits kick in, it will be too high for some areas of the country and too low for others. And if you try to implement it based on where people live, but still keep the program national, it still takes too long to make adjustments too. Almost everything can be better-run if left to the States.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 06:16 PM
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I don't think the Democrats will try and stop Bernie from getting the nomination.

Bernie is an avowed socialist. That everyone knows, even the most ill-informed CNN/MSNBC watcher knows Sanders is a socialist.

The Democrats are also quite aware that their new generation of Congresspeople are also avowed socialists, AOC and The Squad have made it clear. Again even the ill informed CNN/MSNBC watcher knows they are socialists.

It was clear that Obama was socialist-lite. The Democratic Party as a whole is morphing into or already is a socialist party.

They know they have no shot of beating Trump this time around. That won't stop them from starting a new impeachment circus that will last the next 4 years. SO....
This is a bellweather election, to see if the Democratic Party voters will actually vote for a socialist under the Democratic Party brand or not.

Since they can't win this one, they can spend the next term either becoming more entrenched as a socialist party (if Sanders win the nomination) OR backing off the socialist train and rebranding themselves. Democrats have always been great at rebranding themselves.

Example of how they rebrand: Democrats were pro-slavery before the Civil War. Democrats supported Jim Crow laws. Democratic Party leaders were also leaders in the KKK. Yet somehow they managed to rebrand themselves by insisting Republicans switched places with them (with absolutely no evidence) and were now are the racists. This has worked so well that everyday average Democratic Party voters are thoroughly convinced that every single everyday average Republican voter is an evil racist - and the repeat this mantra over and over and over "Tell a lie often enough and people believe it is the truth." Democrats are fabulous at this kind of "rebranding" through repeating lies until they become "the truth".

Another example: Bernie Sanders is not only a socialist, there is plenty of evidence in his past that clearly indicates he has deep communist leanings. Sanders has nothing but positive feelings about authoritarian and totalitarian socialism and even communism. YET The Democrats have convinced everyone Trump and each and every one of his voters/supporters are syncopathic friends of Putin (i.e. communism)

So the Democrats WILL allow a man who will be age 80-84 during his term in office,
who had a recent heart attack,
be their canary in the coal mine.

I think they will force him to make Hillary or another person the DNC leadership really wishes/wants for President as VP.

Then when Sanders dies in his first year, the canary will have died and the miners will safely have control of the mine.




edit on 2/23/20 by The2Billies because: formatting



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 07:17 PM
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originally posted by: HalWesten

That is not true. HFCS is not the same nor does it have the same effect on our body and I am living proof of it. I was going to link a bunch of sites to back up my belief but there are so many others that are trying to protect the food industry from it that it's going to be up to the individual to sort through the BS if you even want to look it up.

So what is my proof? In 2007 I had a blood test for life insurance. It came back with Triglycerides of 1300+. Yes, one thousand, three hundred plus. Strangely enough my LDL and HDL have never been that bad. So I started researching and at the time it was hard because there wasn't much information about it. I did find some at the Mayo Clinic site that questioned the use of HFCS but there wasn't enough evidence to determine one way or another.


It doesn't matter and I don't give a crap. You missed my entire point that you have choices today, more choices then the rest of the world combine. You can drink a 64oz body killer or you can be healthy..your choice, not the Government's choice...you are going down the path that Americans need over site, We are children that need a big parent to tell us what to do and not do...be careful of that message when you become only a number and things like acceptable loss is viable.



So what does this have to do with Bernie's chance of winning the Democrat nomination? I think it's the same as the sugar debate - it's marketing. The DNC can't afford to have Bernie as their nominee, but they may not have a choice unless they cheat again. They got caught cheating the last time, I still don't think that will stop them from cheating and installing someone other than Bernie in the end.


Of course they will cheat, they can't afford to have him run as it would be impossible for him to win. Maybe they will support him and have Hillary as VP hoping he dies shortly once in office.

This whole thing with having your own land, sugar/corn syrup concerns etc tells me you do not want Bernie either, it would not be good for you.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 07:38 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero


This whole thing with having your own land, sugar/corn syrup concerns etc tells me you do not want Bernie either, it would not be good for you.


Unfortunately lots of Democrat voters vote against their own interests. Just look at the black vote. Usually around 85-90% vote for Democrats, despite Democrats having done absolutely nothing for them but encourage them to feel like victims that need the government to take care of them.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 07:49 PM
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They should let it ride.

Nobody is going to beat PDJT. Why make another, younger Democratic prospect for the distant future get the "loser label"?



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 10:59 PM
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off topic. pm sent
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posted on Feb, 24 2020 @ 02:45 AM
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originally posted by: EmmanuelGoldstein
a reply to: pteridine

Bernie will make it over the 51% hump.
Nothing can stop this movement and Trump is actually worried.

Ah, Republican tears, they taste so sweet.

Feel the Bern b!tches!



Oh man that's funny...

Over half that guys campaign in 2016 was based on Clinton being a toxic choice.

Then when he "lost" the nomination to her he tells his supporters to support and vote for her.

I wonder how you felt when Bernie burnt his base to the ground in support of Clinton?




Bernie's a loser, flat out fact.
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