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How will the DNC remove Bernie?

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posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:41 PM
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I have been wondering how the Dems will rid the ticket of Bernie without the Party of Peace rioting in Milwaukee. It is my opinion that Bernie likes the chase and attention but doesn't really want to be president as that involves work, something he is averse to. He likes to kibitz and visit his dachas in his new Audi sports mobile. The Dems paid him off the last time and I think he is planning to extort them again by squeezing Big Gulp's wallet. He is smiling more and more just thinking about it.
The DNC has the usual pundits on retainer and it is hard to miss the usual pundits trying to talk up anybody but Bernie. The usual pundits come up with universal usual pundit lines: "The race isn't over, it's just starting; Bernie is doing well now but the momentum may change when something something; So and So is coming on strong and may gain momentum; After super duper Tuesday things may change, etc. etc." They sound amazingly like sportscasters talking about the never ending series of "Big Games" calling on holy momentum to carry the day.

What could the best deal be? All I can think of is to have Bernie claim his heart problem is worse and he must regretfully bow out and name his replacement, which will be the one the DNC wants. We don't even know if his heart problem is real. I will assume that it is and his supporters will, too, and let him move on with only minimal wailing.

What is your take? Will they oust Bernie or let him run if he wins? How will they be rid of him if that is their plan?

How to launder and move the cash? Same as all the others. A book deal with a rake off for the publisher to pass the money through.
edit on 2/22/2020 by pteridine because: ETA




posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:52 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

Why are you assuming Bernie Sanders does NOT want to be President? Because he quit the race so easily in 2016?


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posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:54 PM
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a reply to: pteridine

Why do you think Mike got into the race so late that he couldn't even participate in the first few primaries?

Why do you think that there is still others in the race?

Why do you think it is SO HARD to even tabulate the results of some states?

Bernie will be held to just under 51% of the delegates, the first round of voting will not give him a clear win, the second round of voting unleashes the super-delegates...

I could have written this script in 2016... it's obvious.

Bernie will sell out again, make his multi-millions, pass the political torch to AOC, keep the movement alive...

And the DNC convention will look like this...



Democrats for the Presidency in 2098!!!




posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:56 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: pteridine

Why are you assuming Bernie Sanders does NOT want to be President? Because he quit the race so easily in 2016?



Bernie knows he will never be President.

He has accomplished everything he wanted to do politically.

Inject socialism into the public debate.

So he won that battle and will cash in on Bernie Bros for a nice fat retirement while still keeping the dream alive.

Best of both worlds for him.




posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:59 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: pteridine

Why are you assuming Bernie Sanders does NOT want to be President? Because he quit the race so easily in 2016?



I explained in the OP that being President is difficult and Bernie seems to not like doing anything but talk about his ideas. What has he done during his tenure in Congress? How long would he last in a stressful job? If he runs, look carefully at his VP because that may be the Pres in a year or two if they carry the day.
I think he wants to cash out.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:19 AM
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He can be denied the DNC nomination because he is not a democrat who falls in line with the party message. They passed this in 2016.

The DNC knows that there is no f'n way that they can win in 2020. Bernie cannot do it. Bloomy is a bust. Biden is a nightmare. Buttplug is a yes man. Warren is the mom of the girl you wanted to date but broke up with because mom was nuts. Klobach would make a great VP.....

No one is poised to beat Trump. Not ONE would be able to debate him. A slaughter after Trump has been in politics 4 years. He has gotten better each year....

Bernie should be more concerned with the investigation into his wife and kids....



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:27 AM
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I'm not so sure. Last time he was neck and neck with Clinton, even trailing in certain respects, and was barely "beat out". Clinton had the entire machine geared up behind her.

This year, all of the other candidates so far seem relatively weak. Bernie's 2016 voters are there in addition to the untold amount of voters who have turned 18+ since 2016.

If we can agree on one thing here, it's that he definitely has the youth vote. His support could only be stronger this year than 4 years ago. His base from 4 years ago didn't decide to be more moderate because they have more savings and investments from their lines of work and all of a sudden want to protect their coffers from minor losses due to Bernie implementing his policies.

If we can agree on another thing here, it's that he was facing a much tougher and more popular adversary who was already a shoe-in with Secretary of State and woman credentials last time. Remember how many Democrat women and also some women who might not normally get into politics enough to vote that she got at the ballots? Probably got a fair bit of female swing voters too. Her female appeal cut directly into Bernie's progressive voters to a degree. Perhaps not much, but definitely notable IMO. That part of the equation is absent too.

The DNC and the wealthy Democrat moderates (centrists, conservative Democrats) are going to fight it the entire way but if the people will it to an extent that can't be weasled away, it shall be. Add it to the history books. If that happens remains to be seen, of course, but it's something to keep an eye on. The moderates only have Joe Biden to go on IMO, I'm sure Buttigieg will perform weaker in many coming state contests; especially the ones with the most delegates. I'm just saying that he won't be anywhere close to a Clinton level competitor and I'm wondering if Joe Biden will be either.

He just might take it and square off against Trump in a polarized match up. It would reflect where our society is right now.
edit on 23-2-2020 by FlyingSquirrel because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:32 AM
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a reply to: pteridine

Since we all have our opinions, mine is, I think he's in it to win it.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 12:44 AM
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a reply to: pteridine

But you're on the right track with this thread. Even staunch liberals in the MSM are now saying Trump remaining as President, would be preferable to a President Sanders.

From Chris Matthews(MSNBC): www.washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:01 AM
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a reply to: pteridine

They wqill get Hillery in the race. Name her as the VP then drop out for some health reason.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:02 AM
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Here are six facts about Democrats today.

1) In 2019, nearly half of Democrats identify as liberal

Self-identified liberals make up a larger share of the Democratic Party than they once did. Nearly half of all Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents (46%) describe their political views as liberal, an increase of 17 percentage points since 2003. Today, 39% of Democrats say they are moderate, while just 14% are conservative.

www.pewresearch.org...

In Bernie's favor as it was in 2016 and progressively increasing.



2) Democratic voters have become much more racially and ethnically diverse over the past two decades.

The next generation of Americans will be the country’s most diverse yet. Democrats are changing to reflect the nation’s growing racial and ethnic diversity more quickly than Republicans. In 2017, 59% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning registered voters were non-Hispanic whites, down from 75% two decades earlier. The share of Democratic voters who are black, Hispanic, Asian American or of another race has increased from 24% to 39% over this period.

Non-Hispanic whites made up an overwhelming share of Republican voters in 2017 (83%); in 1997, 92% of GOP voters were white non-Hispanics.

www.pewresearch.org...

In Biden's favor I guess? I don't know why he's so popular among black voters but it would be logical to assume the increasing amount of minority voters would be black vs hispanic because they have a bigger percentage slice of the minority pie. Maybe this is why:



Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders are the top picks for Latino voters as the Democratic candidate to combat President Donald Trump in next year’s presidential elections, according to a new Telemundo poll.

Biden, who served as vice president under former President Barack Obama, garnered 26% of Democratic Latino voters in the survey, compared to 18% for Sanders, 10% for Sen. Elizabeth Warren, 3% for Sen. Kamala Harris and 2% each for Julian Castro, Beto O’Rourke and Pete Buttigieg, according to the poll. O'Rourke dropped out of the race last week.

“This is a phenomenon of name recognition,” said Jeronimo Cortina, associate director of the Center for Mexican American Studies at the University of Houston. Biden has been “attached to Obama and he has been in the political limelight for more than two decades.”

www.usatoday.com...



3) Democrats are largely united on immigration, same-sex marriage, race

There is less division among Democrats than in the past on the issues of immigration, same-sex marriage and racial equality. A decade ago, there was more significant disagreement among Democrats over these issues, with the party nearly evenly split. Today, three-quarters of Democrats or more are in agreement on these issues.

In 2009, about half of Democrats (52%) said immigrants “strengthen our country because of their hard work and talents.” Earlier this year, 83% of Democrats said immigrants did more to strengthen than burden the country.

A similar shift has occurred on same-sex marriage and views of the state of racial equality. In 2009, Democrats were divided in their views of same-sex marriage; today, three-quarters favor allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally.

Over the same period, the share of Democrats who say the country needs to continue making changes to give blacks equal rights with whites has increased from 57% to 83%.

www.pewresearch.org...

Buttigieg only picks up a token of the LGBT vote IMO. You or I probably don't agree with them, but I'm sure they're undoubtably progressive and vote with their brains, not with their sexual preference. As for the rest, it all sounds progressive to me.



4) Democrats’ top policy priorities are reducing health care costs, improving education, protecting the environment and securing Medicare

In our annual policy priorities survey in January, 77% of Democrats said reducing health care costs should be a top priority for the president and Congress, while comparable majorities said the same about improving the educational system (76%), protecting the environment (74%) and making Medicare financially sound (73%).

Democrats and Republicans differed on the importance of most of the 18 policy goals in the survey, but the widest gaps were over the environment and climate change. Democrats were 43 percentage points more likely than Republicans to say protecting the environment should be a top priority (74% vs. 31%) and 46 points more likely to cite dealing with global climate change as a top priority (67% vs. 21%).

www.pewresearch.org...

Bernie's policies are most appealing to Democrat voters in these areas. Maybe not in the healthcare department, as it seems that everyone who can afford a premium fiercely doesn't want to pay enough money in taxes to miss one night out each month for the benefit of humanity. Education? Bernie most likely has the most liberal plan for cheap and free college. Protecting the environment? That's definitely Bloomberg for the win.



5) Democrats are united in their opposition to Donald Trump. Democrats are nearly unanimous in their disapproval of Trump’s job as president. In May 2019, 93% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said they disapproved of Trump’s performance, including 81% who said they very strongly disapproved.

Democrats express overwhelmingly negative views of Trump’s handling of major issues, his personal traits and his administration’s ethics and honesty. In addition, a recent survey on political discourse found that sizable majorities of Democrats – at least 85% in each case – say they are often or sometimes concerned, exhausted, angry, insulted and confused by the things that Trump says.

www.pewresearch.org...

It means that they'll all be voting for whomever the candidate ends up being; even Bernie. If they lose the wealthier voters, they're an insignificant portion anyway. Moderates are going to vote for Trump because Bernie is the nominee? Doubtful. They're basically unified while appearing to be divided.

In 2016, the Bernie people trashed Clinton the entire way on Facebook but became quiet when it came voting time and most of them voted for Clinton anyways. The level of division was much, much higher back then and Bernie was the first progressive liberal candidate to be so popular. No one knew Trump back then, at least not President Trump, and the chances of him winning the election were less than 50%, much lower depending where you got your data.



Majorities of Democrats say the gender, race or sexuality of the Democratic nominee in 2020 wouldn’t make a difference in their enthusiasm.

Nearly two-thirds of Democrats (64%) say it would not make a difference in their enthusiasm if the party’s nominee is a woman, while nearly a third (31%) say they would feel more enthusiastic.

www.pewresearch.org...
edit on 23-2-2020 by FlyingSquirrel because: (no reason given)



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:06 AM
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The usual arguments against Sanders fail big time.

For a common American, Sanders is a soviet style communist. And where is the money taken from, for his socialist policies?

Just throwing a god damn wild idea here: what if you (USA) cut your defense budget (which is in fact an attack budget) in half.

After that, every American will have access to food, shelter and medicine. And you still have money left to murder everyone who is not American.




posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 01:49 AM
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Las Vegas Betting Odds have just arrived. Here are the odds of each candidate becoming the Dim nominee for President.

twitter.com...



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 02:03 AM
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Best bet would be to pay off several whistleblowers regarding Bernie's wife and her situation bankrupting that college. People know. Just pay them off and get the evidence. Bernie will not survive.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: Stupidsecrets
President Trump wants Bernie to be the Dim nominee. During debates, Bernie will sound authoritative when making statements, but upon cross examination, he'll be reduced to babbling.

Bernie: I will get rid of ICE!

Trump: ICE arrested over 2,000 criminals last year, Bernie. You're advocating that criminals remain free to roam the country hurting, robbing, and killing people?

Bernie: I didn't say that Donald! You did! I know...you phrased it as a question, in order to trip me up. But America is on to your trickery! Let me tell you how much I've done for, and support law enforcement...blah blah blah...and BLAH.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 02:13 AM
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a reply to: pteridine

The conventional wisdom is Bernie can't beat Trump in the general. So all you right wingers can let your sphincter's relax.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 02:49 AM
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originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: pteridine

The conventional wisdom is Bernie can't beat Trump in the general. So all you right wingers can let your sphincter's relax.


We're actually rooting for Bernie.

We like Bernie. He's great!




posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 03:39 AM
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originally posted by: pteridine
I have been wondering how the Dems will rid the ticket of Bernie


I'm not sure that they want to. They think that he's an asset rather than a liability. All of the things that you dislike about him make him a winner in the eyes of the DNC.

At the end of the day it looks like they are going to have a straight up primary where voters decide, no messing around, just a regular vote.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 03:44 AM
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originally posted by: Lumenari

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: pteridine

The conventional wisdom is Bernie can't beat Trump in the general. So all you right wingers can let your sphincter's relax.


We're actually rooting for Bernie.

We like Bernie. He's great!



Being realistic, there are only three democrats who can actually challenge Trump. Sanders, Biden and Bloomberg.

What a lot of Democrats don't seem to understand is that in order to win the election they need to attract swing Republicans who are not happy with Trump over to their side. But most of their campaigning is targeted at people who would never vote for Trump anyway.

Candidates like Warren only really appeal to people who already vote Democrat and Trump is going to plaster social media with pictures of Mayor Pete kissing a man, and that's immediately going to alienate minorities from Religious communities such as Muslims and conservatives Christians into either voting for Trump or staying home. There are a lot of Black and Hispanic voters who hold traditional views about gender and sexuality and Mayor Pete will struggle to get them to vote for him.



posted on Feb, 23 2020 @ 06:55 AM
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a reply to: dfnj2015

He can't hide from The Sun can he 🤓

He will be blackmailed and smeared into a 2 dimensional picture 🤓



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