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posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:39 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Bloodworth




That report focuses on cyber actors.....so what percentage of the country is influenced by russian bots? Fake posts....? Fake news...sounds ridiculous

Many things sound ridiculous but are in fact reality , it's clear to anyone with unclouded vision why Russia would want Trump for 4 more years so given it's accepted that they tried in 2016 why wouldn't they try again.

Then why are the Russians trying to get Bernie Sanders elected too?
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Have you considered the Russians are just meddling? Much like we meddle in every election on the planet...




posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:44 AM
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They've tried to rig elections in most Western countries over the past few years so their respective investigations and reports give a good summary. Russia give a decent summary too as they're open about the fact they've done it as it's part of their playbook to build distrust in democracy by openly backing both sides and their own advisaries.
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The FSB pocketbook guide of how it was done was written bu this chap:en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: Bloodworth


It what physical ways could Russia actually influence or rig an electron?


The same way they did last time. By hacking the voting system in all 50 States.


The Senate Intelligence Committee concluded Thursday that election systems in all 50 states were targeted by Russia in 2016, an effort more far-reaching than previously acknowledged and one largely undetected by the states and federal officials at the time.



It concluded that while there was no evidence that any votes were changed in actual voting machines, “Russian cyberactors were in a position to delete or change voter data” in the Illinois voter database. The committee found no evidence that they did so.


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“No evidence that any votes were changed.” If there was, does anyone believe they’d come out and say it? No, we’re supposed to believe that a foreign adversary went to the trouble of hacking our entire voting system just to.....do nothing?

Ummm, yeah.

And what was the patriotic Republican response to this attack on our country and more recent ones?

Blocking every election security bill they can, of course.


Senate Republicans blocked an effort by Democrats to unanimously pass three election security-related bills Tuesday, marking the latest attempt to clear legislation ahead of the November elections

Democrats tried to get consent to pass two bills that require campaigns to alert the FBI and Federal Election Commission (FEC) about foreign offers of assistance, as well as legislation to provide more election funding and ban voting machines from being connected to the internet.


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And let’s not forget that the FEC is completely non-functioning now that Trump has refused to appoint people to it. Just in case you’re wondering that’s the commission that monitors campaign funding and where it comes from.

But I’m sure it’s nothing. Nothing suspicious at all about Republicans fighting every election security bill. Nothing suspicious about the group that monitors campaign funding being intentionally broken by the people who would benefit from it being broken.

Nothing suspicious about Donald Trump siding with Vladimir Putin on live TV over America. Nothing suspicious about Rand Paul hand delivering a secret letter to Putin from Trump. Nothing suspicious about the way the NRA has been used for years to funnel Russian dark money into Republicans pockets. Nothing suspicious at all about this conversation:


“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia. House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.


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Nah bro. The Russian thing has been debunked. It’s just TDS, something something never Trumper...

I really don’t blame you guys for not wanting to turn your gaze inward. Because if you did you’d have to face what it is you’re actually supporting.
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posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 12:01 PM
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a reply to: JAY1980

I don't think they much care what the face in the chair is just as long there's division and weak candidates , once again you have a choice between bad and badder Vlad must be loving it.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 12:06 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Bloodworth




That report focuses on cyber actors.....so what percentage of the country is influenced by russian bots? Fake posts....? Fake news...sounds ridiculous

Many things sound ridiculous but are in fact reality , it's clear to anyone with unclouded vision why Russia would want Trump for 4 more years so given it's accepted that they tried in 2016 why wouldn't they try again.

Then why are the Russians trying to get Bernie Sanders elected too?
Source

Have you considered the Russians are just meddling? Much like we meddle in every election on the planet...


That's the key part of Russian interference as outlined by Putin's ex-strategist I cited above - they openly back all sides to hide who their real backing is behind and sow seeds of confusion which led to the term 'fake news'. The overarching approach is to undermine Western belief in democracy and capitalism rather than outright rig an election at a voting booth same way they got Trump elected as people were engineered to think all politicians are corrupt and he was somehow not part of he elite.

The US and UK are guilty of meddling in elections but the Russians have perfected it as an artform and are far more advanced than any other nation could hope to be - it''s wrong on every level but it's hard not to admire how Serkov and Putin have been by far the most influential and advanced minds of our time.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 12:29 PM
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originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: JAY1980

I don't think they much care what the face in the chair is just as long there's division and weak candidates , once again you have a choice between bad and badder Vlad must be loving it.


Oh man now Russia has gotten to the candidates as.well...how far does this go down the chain.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 12:31 PM
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originally posted by: JAY1980

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: Bloodworth




That report focuses on cyber actors.....so what percentage of the country is influenced by russian bots? Fake posts....? Fake news...sounds ridiculous

Many things sound ridiculous but are in fact reality , it's clear to anyone with unclouded vision why Russia would want Trump for 4 more years so given it's accepted that they tried in 2016 why wouldn't they try again.

Then why are the Russians trying to get Bernie Sanders elected too?
Source

Have you considered the Russians are just meddling? Much like we meddle in every election on the planet...


So the Russians wants a sanders trump ticket....man those ruskies are good ....



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 01:59 PM
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Good video. Strange times are ahead, data mining is literally the future and every time we tap or click on something it just builds an even bigger database of information about all of us. The march towards a technological singularity is actually starting to look real.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 02:12 PM
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The real interference in the 2016 election was not by Russia, but by the leftist media.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

The part that still shocks me to this day is the bit about determining your politics with zero data points aside from the movement and clicks of your mouse.

Add that to the recent news that Amex is using the way we walk to collect biometric markers on their customers, and man -- what a world.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 05:15 PM
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originally posted by: bastion

The US and UK are guilty of meddling in elections but the Russians have perfected it as an artform and are far more advanced than any other nation could hope to be - it''s wrong on every level but it's hard not to admire how Serkov and Putin have been by far the most influential and advanced minds of our time.


Compared to the Israelis, the Russians are still third rate amateurs. You don't see politicians pledging loyalty to Russia and voting to give them money to get elected.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 07:24 PM
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originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Maybe the rumors were true?

Maybe they were faked to look like they came from years ago but were created more recently.

Maybe they do play that long game. And went after people they thought would hold high office one day?
Rumors could have been started years ago about many people that never made it into high office.
Maybe they started rumors about everyone in or even close to our government. And hillary and bill just happened to be the ones that gained power.


I've talked to people from Arkansas, and those rumors were around shortly after he took office there.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 07:25 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Wardaddy454

If you use a cellphone or a computer to use the internet you most likely are tied to someone you know who uses social media. The internet is like the printing press, when the printing press was invented and regular people could start printing their own stuff information took off like a rocket, both good and bad.

It didnt matter if you were the one printing the stuff or the one receiving the leaflets of books, etc all it takes is a few people to persuade to get the ball rolling.

The ussr and KGB used that sort of tactic during the cold war, so did the cia to persuade their own populations that either side is bad. This time tho, information can be spread so quickly it's gone global.
I think this is why guys like zuckerberg have been calling for more regulations on the internet.

A good example is the far right neo nazi or bible belt or even the growing movement or far left neo communists, and eco fascists, using the tactics that have been seen on the streets, recruit young impressionable minds. A good place to see this in action is the 'politically incorrect' forum on 4chan.

At the end of the day we will never know the truth to be honest. It's all speculation, and too many loose ends and far too many rabbit holes to jump down. Such is the way with vast amounts of knowledge, the truth tends to get lost in the midst of manipulators. It's happened before.


Indeed. Yet many of you will claim CNN is real news.



posted on Feb, 22 2020 @ 07:30 PM
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a reply to: gortex

The fact that Dems calls all Trump supporters and the walkaway campaign as Russian bots discredit the entire narrative. 6k worth of ads on facebook, couldn't sway an election that is worth billions.
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posted on Feb, 24 2020 @ 09:46 AM
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originally posted by: gortex
"a reply to: Bloodworth
Every time I hear about russia meddling in the news, they never give an example HOW."

Here's how they tried last time.
www.intelligence.senate.gov...

Sorry, no, that is a link to the ridiculous waste of money report written by Weissman witrh Mueller as a figurehead.

What did they - Russia - actually do? Some BS social media ads and posts...

Sorry, but that simply is not 'election meddling'.

Election meddling is what Google, Twitter and Facebook are doing, censoring search results and posters for all things they don't like:



posted on Feb, 24 2020 @ 11:42 AM
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Sorry, no, that is a link to the ridiculous waste of money report written by Weissman witrh Mueller as a figurehead.


You guys are priceless.



posted on Feb, 24 2020 @ 11:52 AM
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originally posted by: lakenheath24
If one is influenced by Facebook, one probably ought not to be allowed to vote.


Over 50% of the U.S. now count FB as their primary source for news.



posted on Feb, 24 2020 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: MachineMan
The real interference in the 2016 election was not by Russia, but by the leftist media.


The leftist media have been carefully nurtured by Moscow for a hundred years now.

Since WW2 this was the task of the First Chief Directorate of the KGB.

Vladimir Putin's old employers.

Academia is a softer target than the Military Industrial Complex.

"Useful Fools" motivated by a false sense of moral superiority.

It is a long game creating Cultural Marxists.

The success of the plan can be confirmed by looking at the nuttier members of the Democratic Party.




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